kpnuts Posted December 28, 2015 Share #1 Posted December 28, 2015 Hi all i received this infamous kit as a present from my missus (note from the title I will only be correcting those errors my megre skills and even megerer knowledge will allow) that said as I'm building just a generic ship of the line it will end up being exactly right. I have today ordered some gold leaf for this kit as it worked so well on the La Reale and the Royal Sovriegn, I have some copper leaf and brass leaf, wish I could find some bronze leaf for the canons (does anyone know how I could colour brass leaf to look like bronze). I know everyone will be saying get good am blocks and tackle also bin the thread and get some proper stuff, but, the missus has said keep the costs down, also I feel why spend more on am stuff than the kit cost, so will be investing in bees wax and apart from the gold leaf all else will be oob (apart from maybe some scratch building. the molding is as exquisite as it was on the La Reale. Piet, avsjerome2003 and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share #2 Posted December 28, 2015 Can anyone workout my first problem(It's a biggie, wont be able to go far with this at the moment ) You would think I would have learnt with heller by now (check everything, then check it again. Canute, avsjerome2003 and Piet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 28, 2015 Share #3 Posted December 28, 2015 Oh.... bummer... that's a show stopper for sure. I'm going to assume that Heller will be getting an email with attached photo? On the other hand... you could do a half hull model with all the internal decks, etc. Canute, foxy, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted December 30, 2015 Share #4 Posted December 30, 2015 Sorry for your dilemma but it happens. Hope you get sorted soon KP. Frank. Canute, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexnut Posted December 30, 2015 Share #5 Posted December 30, 2015 Ouch. I had that happen with an old Frog glider model I bought used, ended up scratch-building 1 fuselage 1/2, but this is considerably more serious. Try and get them to send one of each hull half so you can build a companion receiving ship... Canute, Piet, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted December 30, 2015 Share #6 Posted December 30, 2015 I can just imagine what you were thinking as it dawned on you what you had. So sorry. Hoping you get it put to right quickly! (and without cost!). I would also be scouring Ebay for partially built / incomplete kits to save $$ and get some extra parts. I wish I could help (I do have 3 Revell full size Constitutions!). Mark mtaylor, Canute and Piet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted December 31, 2015 Share #7 Posted December 31, 2015 Is this kit back in production? When my kit hull warped after many years of storage, I was forced to buy a replacement on e-bay. Canute, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted December 31, 2015 Share #8 Posted December 31, 2015 Wow! I have this kit in my "Will-I-ever-build-this-kit" stash. Only work I have done is gluing both sides of the hull. I wish you luck with this issue! Canute and Piet 2 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted January 5, 2016 Hi all well the gold leaf has arrived for this but will leave any guilding untill\if the other hull side turns up. Canute, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted January 20, 2016 Hi all well the part is coming, so here is 2 nights of guilding run out of gold leaf now, will have to order some more) popeye the sailor, hexnut, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted January 20, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2016 Wow!!! Would it be too much to ask for the process you follow to gold leaf things? Glues, tools, finishes if any... I have always wanted to try something like this. Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted January 20, 2016 It requires very specialist tools, a soft cloth and a pair of scissors and a soft brush (I use my missus blusher brush )(that's all I use anyway) this is now my third ship I've guided so I'm still a novice. You need some gold leaf (transfer is easier than loose leaf, although not as hard wearing(being thicker than transfer )) you also need size (this is basically gold glue) you paint it on and leave it for 20 mins (to go tacky) then cut a manageable piece if the leaf and lay it over the piece to be guilded the press it down with the soft cloth then gently brush the loose gold off, you will find little cracks which you then need to re apply some gold leaf to those areas (you won't need to re size)if you find the gold is not sticking you have not left the size long enough oh you will also need shellac varnish as the gold is very soft and easily damaged. popeye the sailor, Ulises Victoria and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted January 20, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 20, 2016 Thank you very much! This is something I have to try someday. Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share #14 Posted January 22, 2016 here's tonight's update Doreltomin, mtaylor, popeye2sea and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted January 23, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 23, 2016 That is beautiful work. Regards, Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted January 23, 2016 Share #16 Posted January 23, 2016 Kpnuts, As others already suggested, contact Heller with the picture and ask for another half of the kit. Should give you some extra parts if needed. Well, just my two cents, however I do like the golden leafs. Beautiful done! Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted January 23, 2016 Hi all I've finished one of the rear gallerys so I thought a lot of the detail was hidden so added an oil wash to them Altduck, JerseyCity Frankie, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #18 Posted January 28, 2016 Hi all here is my first modification mtaylor and hexnut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share #19 Posted February 1, 2016 Hi all well all the guilding is done Just waiting on the hull now mtaylor and Altduck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted February 15, 2016 Hi all well it's amazing the effect threatening to sue, not just for the cost of the kit but also compensation can have. Special delivery today the hull half arrived(no letter of apology or even a note just the box with the hull in it)So looks like it's back on then. mtaylor and Doreltomin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted February 15, 2016 Hi all well now the hull half is here I'm like a cat with 2 tails, so my first job to remove the moulded plimsole line (I'm raising it a bit to improve the look) (seen it done elsewhere (davidk's build) and it looks much better) I must say I think it's worked really well, you cant tell it was there at all couple of strengthening strips in the bottom She is huge. hexnut and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 15, 2016 Share #22 Posted February 15, 2016 Glad to see your build is back on. Looking forward to following this. Regards, docidle and mtaylor 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share #23 Posted February 16, 2016 Hi all here is tonights update . hexnut, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted February 17, 2016 Hi all, I was asked by a few people how I did this wood effect so thought maybe some of you would be interested. First of all I apologise my the first pics of the procedure are missing as the pics on my phone we're corrupted for some reason, it dosn't really matter as the process it the same throughout I will explain as we go. First here is the huge list of things required this is where my phone let me down I have no pics if this part as they were corrupted(sorry) the pastels wont stick to plastic so you have to use matt paint (I've no idea if this will work with acrylics as I use enamels but I think it would) I picked the lightest colour of the wood I'm trying to replicate for the base colour (in this case Humbrol m 63) paint the wood with a thin coat in the direction of the grain if it looks patchy that is good (helps with the effect)as long as it all has some paint on it (look at the pictures of the hull you can see its very patchy) once that is dry take the darkest wood colour pastel you are using and lightly drag it over the grain in a random manner not everywhere so it all looks the same , then with the brush, again in the direction of the grain brush it in then with the highlight colour (we have pictures of the rest of the process from now on) do exactly the same again brush in the direction of the grain next get some black pastel and dab on details (anywhere that may get stained from water or nooks an crannys where swilling the deck wouldn't get plus a few random areas now brush across the gain (only very lightly and only a couple of passes) now brush with the grain as much as you like till you get the desired effect now comes the important bit (DO NOT VARNISH THIS YET) the varnish stays wet too long and the pastels merge and you just end up with brown blotches. spray with your missus hair spray at a distance of at least 12 inches ( you don't want it to look wet when that is dry then you can spray your varnish. the genius of this method is if you make a mistake or don't like the effect (untill you varnish it) wash it under the tap dry with a cloth and your missus hair dryer, ten mins and you're ready to go again, you tell me any other method that's that easy to redo. Hope this is of some help to some one Ulises Victoria, docidle, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted February 18, 2016 Hi all well since my boss was having her hair done in Harrods that meant 5hrs sitting in the car waiting, I took a few parts to do whilst waiting, I think I've glued over half the cannon barrels together (the moulding on these kits really is superb, it's such a shame about their customer care) tarbrush, mtaylor and Doreltomin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted February 20, 2016 Hi all here is the next update some of the many, many cannons, think I will see them in my dreams Couldn't resist trying the gold up against it Lukasvdb, mtaylor, cristikc and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #27 Posted February 21, 2016 Hi all these 2 ships are pretty much the same scale (I think it just goes to show how big this ship was)(although the Victory would dwarf the Soliel) mtaylor, popeye the sailor, docidle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share #28 Posted February 23, 2016 Hi all here is the next update, 12 of the lower deck cannons, not done much detail work on the carriages as they wont be seen, and done some of the deck furniture, next job to drill the holes out for the gun door ropes( that is going to take some time 104 guns X 2 208 holes then I have to try and think of a way to make the rings for the gun port doors for the ropes to go through. cristikc, EJ_L, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted February 26, 2016 Hi all here is the next update, I needed to drill the holes for the gun port doors ropes, but I wanted them all in the same place so I made a jig. EJ_L, popeye the sailor, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share #30 Posted February 27, 2016 Hi all here is todays bit. EJ_L, mtaylor, docidle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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