Kevin Kenny Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share #781 Posted December 30, 2022 Hi Maury you are absolutely correct that if there is a lot of pressure when pulling the stock through the draw plate that mounting it in a table top vice helps greatly with the stress of pulling it through the plate. I found this particularly true with hard wood stock where it is difficult to get the raw stock small enough. But with Bamboo i found it quite easy to reduce the size of the stock down to say .030 which means that you can literally pull the treenail stock through the plate without using the thong puller to get down to .020. Most of the time i was able to get to .020 without any pulling device at all, just with my fingers. The technique was getting to split the bamboo and the hammer was the tool that did that so effectively. Also if for some reason i was having difficulty getting it into the next hole, simply backtracking to the previous hole easily solved the problem. I any case my wife would not allow a bench top vice to be located on our porch in Tobago while i sat on the chair in our porch , on the golf course. Haha. James G, AJohnson, billocrates and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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giampieroricci Posted January 5, 2023 Share #784 Posted January 5, 2023 good job, Kevin! billocrates, Kevin Kenny and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share #785 Posted January 5, 2023 New addition. Tossedman, billocrates, KentM and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share #786 Posted January 5, 2023 All hooked up to the vacuum system. I don't know why i can find this adaptor to fit my system. mtaylor, No Idea, billocrates and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted January 5, 2023 Share #787 Posted January 5, 2023 Hi Kevin - I had this problem when I bought my table saw and thickness sander. A mate of mine made me some inserts so that my extraction fitted. So when I ordered my sander from Jim I asked if he could modify the extraction port to suit my needs. He did 😀 so when it was delivered it fitted just as the others did........Sorry maybe I should have told you this about 6 months ago! The thickness sander is something else and I use it all of the time. I have discovered though that if you want a really smooth piece without any dips - as it passes through to the sanded side place a lot of pressure with your thumb onto the piece of wood that emerges and continue to feed it through with a push stick. This method gives great results - enjoy your new tool 😁 KentM, AON, billocrates and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 5, 2023 Share #788 Posted January 5, 2023 thumb and push stick - that has been my limited experience also. I should have bought mine years ago! (instead of late last year) No Idea, mtaylor and billocrates 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted January 6, 2023 Share #789 Posted January 6, 2023 Nice job on those sheer planks Kevin. I think you will find that shaping and installing the planksheers, especially those short pieces over the hancing pieces, will be one of the more challenging tasks on the model. To that end it is imperative that the sheer/toptimber line be perfectly fair. Consider if you will be shaping the timberheads in situ or off the model. Shaping them in place is extremely difficult so if you decide to make them off the model I would cut the timberheads off now and use a sanding stick athwartships to fair the toptimber line (it looks a bit wavy to my eye). I found that making the timberheads on the Byrnes saw assembly line style was easy and the results were very consistent. billocrates, druxey, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted January 6, 2023 Share #790 Posted January 6, 2023 Kevin, create a simple "sled" for the sander. I use a piece of1/4" "Plexiglas" about 12" x 6". I think you will find it much better than just feeding a piece of wood through. Same technique...push stick and thumb pressure on the output. The sled also gives you a longer table. Maury billocrates, No Idea, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share #791 Posted January 6, 2023 Maury i would love to see a picture of what you made bruce d, mtaylor, billocrates and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 6, 2023 Share #792 Posted January 6, 2023 Kevin I wouldn't mind seeing it to and was wondering how Maury keep's it in place. Have a couple of pieces which would work just fine. Enjoyed your last Video and look forward to the next one. Gary No Idea, billocrates and mtaylor 3 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 6, 2023 Share #793 Posted January 6, 2023 Me too! Me too! A good picture is worth 1000 words. mtaylor, druxey, No Idea and 1 other 4 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share #794 Posted January 6, 2023 Not sure if this is what Maury had in mind. I use to have various jigs for the Preac sander and most of the time had to remove the cover to keep the piece from flying off. Also the paper roll would turn the piece when i pushed it through. I would love to see what you guys do. Now that i am using this it would have been great if the aluminum base extended back another 6 inches, to make sure i push the sled in flat. It has a tendency to lift at the front. mtaylor, KentM, bruce d and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share #795 Posted January 6, 2023 This is the type of jig i make when i do not want the part to move left or right mtaylor, scrubbyj427, bruce d and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted January 7, 2023 Share #796 Posted January 7, 2023 Obviously the major advantage to the sled is that you can thickness wood to incredibly thin widths. I use plexiglass for dimensional stability druxey, billocrates and mtaylor 3 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share #797 Posted January 7, 2023 I have written to Jim to see if he has any suggestipns billocrates and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted January 7, 2023 Share #798 Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) A sled does not have to be fancy, just stable (thickness). Like Greg, I used 1/4" Plexiglas. This one has been used for years and is beat-up but still fits the bill. If the piece I'm working on is too short, I might use double stick tape to hold it. I've been advised, to rotate side to side and end to end when thickness-sanding. Maury Edited January 7, 2023 by Maury S billocrates, mtaylor, druxey and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted January 7, 2023 Share #799 Posted January 7, 2023 Maury S - you are spot on there mate. To get a completely flat piece of wood it needs to be rotated end to end and on both sides. This removes any cupping from it 👍 dvm27, billocrates and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted January 7, 2023 Share #800 Posted January 7, 2023 I also use one continuous sheet of 180 grit paper vs. two individual sheets. I find that with two sheets I can get a line when passing through the center. OF course that's only a problem when the piece to be thicknessed is wider than half of the carrier. druxey, billocrates, tlevine and 1 other 4 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share #801 Posted January 12, 2023 dvm27, No Idea, KentM and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #802 Posted January 16, 2023 Large soldering pad/board arrived along with ceramic pins for holding stuff that will not provide a heat sink. The silver soldering station is now complete. mtaylor, druxey, No Idea and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #803 Posted January 16, 2023 bruce d, James G, KentM and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #804 Posted January 16, 2023 Completed external planking KentM, bruce d, mtaylor and 11 others 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted January 16, 2023 Share #805 Posted January 16, 2023 Nice job Kevin. Preac makes a fence thats1/2" tall. If you can find one it makes cutting mortises a lot easier. Maybe an optical illusion but the first gunport (not the bridle port) looks a bit short. billocrates, KentM and mtaylor 3 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #806 Posted January 16, 2023 I have the Preac fence. Ill be checking all the ports this week. I hope not because i checked and corrected them before i started the planking.anyway if its too small thats an easy fix, if it too large thats a pain in the butt. KentM, billocrates, dvm27 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlevine Posted January 17, 2023 Share #807 Posted January 17, 2023 Preac fence still in production? I assume this is an aftermarket product since the company no longer exists. billocrates and mtaylor 2 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: NRG Rigging Project Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share #808 Posted January 17, 2023 Hi Toni when i buy a tool i usually buy all the accessories, so i have had the fence since i purchased the original saw. billocrates, mtaylor, KentM and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share #809 Posted January 17, 2023 Gregs comment “Maybe an optical illusion but the first gunport (not the bridle port) looks a bit short.” i have checked all the gun ports. the forward gunport is 27” high and 18” wide, aft is 27” high and 24” wide and all others are 27” high and 28” wide. So unless i have my measurements off the plan they are all ok. dvm27, James G, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share #810 Posted January 18, 2023 Shooting board using the Lee Valley miniature plane druxey, James G, AON and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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