Golden Hind (ex-Pelican) by Baker - FINISHED - scale 1/45 - Galleon late 16th century

[Baker]

Thanks 

We have a large garden. Nice, but sometimes with a little too much maintenance work 

 

before I glue the cannons on the rearcastle. It is probably best that first make grooves in the channels where the deadeyes come.
The intention is to get something like this.

As is quite the case with this build, I first had absolutely no idea about what, how much and where to place them. So first i have to find out what we are going to do.

 

On average there are 6, 7 or 8 deadeyes for the main mast.

At the beginning of the 17th century there were apparently already rules to determine the length of the masts.
But i obtained confusing results with this method.

I continue with a sketch by Mathew Baker.
this gives : the length of the lower part of the main mast is 1.77 times the beam.

The "test mast"

With improvised standing rigging (8 deadeyes). This setup seems ok to me. She will stay that way for the time being
(i think about it first and then make the grooves in the channels)

to be continued

[Baker]

Hello everyone,

 

Update.

Grooves are made in the channels. 

marking with a pencil

I think (hope) that they are big enough.

To bring some life into the model varied personal items will be added. "Bags" of crew members, small barrels, a crate with material for each cannon and a crate with ammunition for the present cannons.  Gunpowder was not stored near the cannons for safety reasons.

 

An example how it could be

Bags are of wood and tissue. Barrels of wood and rope

Crates an varied ammunition

Cannons (3) are placed. I still have to make 1 cannon. This will be a different type, 

Current state

Thanks for following

 

[cog]

I love those details, Patrick. Well done. THe shots taken trhough the ship look marvelous.

[G.L.]

Very detailed! Nice work Patrick.

Your next gun doesn't look very easy to build.

[Baker]

22 hours ago, cog said:

I love those details, Patrick. Well done. THe shots taken trhough the ship look marvelous.

Thanks for yhe nice words.

14 hours ago, G.L. said:

Very detailed! Nice work Patrick.

Your next gun doesn't look very easy to build.

 thanks.  And yes, building these 2 canons will be a challenge.

[flying_dutchman2]

Agreed with everyone else, the details are wonderful. Love all the details you put into the model to make it come alive. 

Marcus 

[Baker]

Thanks Marcus

 

After a few weeks of silence, a very short update (it is currently a little to hot to do anything)
I finally succeeded in making one cannon (after a few failures)  I'm going to make another identical cannon  to place in the forecastle. A construction method of this second cannon will follow later.

 

Unpainted cannon

painted cannon

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[luponero]

... even if it's hot, you make really "super" pieces,

 

Fabio (black wolf)

[G.L.]

Just like the example on the picture in the book above.

Well done, Patrick

[Baker]

Thanks for the nice comments.

I actually wanted to make wooden spoked wheels. In plastic this was possible, but in wood this was beyond my skills.

 

Meanwhile : Backer is busy painting on the house

A nice view from a height of about 8 meters 

[Roger Pellett]

It is a beautiful house and garden.

 

Roger

[Baker]

Hello,

 

The 2nd cannon is ready. All plastic parts come from my military partsbox, plastic sprue and strips.

cannon installed, together with deck beams and knees.

A ladder is also built. There is not much room left   therefore she is placed between the 2 doors.

And: My painting job on the house is ready. 
I don't like to work on a ladder, i start sweating and get the shaking in my legs. ( Dutch : Ik begin dan te zweten en krijg dan de bibber in de benen ).

Thanks for following

[G.L.]

Nice job at the gun.

And also at the house, I guess that it is something you don't have to do every year 😁.

[Baker]

I guess that it is something you don't have to do every year 😁.

Actually, it was 20 years ago and painting became urgent 

 

Made some progress and started with the deck. The finish between the deck and the frames is just the same as the deck below.

 

First a plank is made that is glued to the frames. Supports are glued to the rear of this plank.

The plank  is glued and then the first 2 deck planks.

The holes between the frames are closed with small planks. These are first all made separately (and numbered) and then painted before assembly.

And the alignment of the "nails" in the deck planks is indeed not in line with the alignment of the deck beams.
But once the deck is completely planked, this error is no longer visible.

Thanks for following

[Baker]

Planking of the quarter deck.

There seem to have been different methods during this period. Fully planked or with a grating of beams in the middle.
The grating appears to have come into use later. Mostly on ships that sailed to the tropical seas. 
Possible to cool the area under this deck. Or to give the helmsman a better view of the sails. Who knows?

This model gets the full planking. With 3 openings :
For the block of the main sail.
For the ladder between main and quarter deck.
For the removable cover for the helmsman.

Planking of this deck is done in the same way as the main deck.

Planking on the stern area is also "weird". 4 planks are not in the length but in the width.
Reason: If you look at the opposite side, here are the same planks also placed in the width.
Correct or not ?? I don't know, but it is logically acceptable.

These 4 planks are in the width at the bottom

Thanks for following

[Baker]

Started with the cabin under the poop deck.
This was the captain's cabin. There is one door for access and 3 small hatches.

A table with 6 chairs is provided.
At the back there is a couch that can also be used as a bed.


Am actually not satisfied with the finish of this cabin (interior and exterior).
Given the long buildtime of this model, I struggle to stay focused
That's why I restarted with military 1/72 modeling ( build log in the shore leaf topic) and later the Bounty project will be restarted again.
Building on this model will temporarily be a bit slower in the near future.

 

Thanks for following

[G.L.]

Nice furniture for the captain's stateroom.

Bad news for us that this project in a lower acceleration.

[md1400cs]

Patrick,

 

Clever and well done details. I don't remember, were you going to also add sails as well?

 

Regards,

[Baker]

@ GL

I prefer, as good as possible, in a lower acceleration. 

It remains a hobby for me.

 

@ Michael

Yes, the idea is to build a model with full rigging and sails.

 

Thanks for comments and likes

 

[Baker]

A month later. A small update,

Further accessories are installed in the captain's cabin.
Crates and small barrels (probably with the personal wine and beer supply of the captain )
A wall rack for nautical charts etc , a mattress, pillows and bags are in progress

I also tried to build 16th century buckets.
My biggest problem was the  thickness of the side from the bucket.
A bucket from Mary Rose served as an example

After several failed attempts, I made something that comes close to the original 

The start was an empty .22 LR casing (of course legally obtained according to Belgian law)
These are too long, so first i saw tmem to size. A .22 short was better, but I don't have a license for that type of ammunition.

The side of the bucket is made of plastic sheet

This is glued around the casing with CA glue and a strap of plastic sprue is glued around the bucket

Painting and weathering (and a SU76i that is almost finished)

Apply a rope, and a batch of 9 is ready. Bucket N° 10 ended up as a scrap (The rope appears thicker on the photo than in reality)

Thanks for following

[Baker]

Small update,

 

The captain's cabin is furnished. More detail can be added but that is not really going to remain visible.

The poop deck planking has started. First a test, the planks are made a bit tapered.

Planking in progress.

Thanks for following

[G.L.]

Patrick,

Glad to see that the shipyard is in operation again!👍

[md1400cs]

P.

 

As always - a treat to follow. - love the map (could have been called a chart in those days??)

 

MJD

[cog]

Nice work on the cabin and the poop deck, I just wonder, if it wouldn't be more logical to start from the centre line and work outwards?

 

On 11/4/2019 at 7:36 PM, md1400cs said:

As always - a treat to follow. - love the map (could have been called a chart in those days??)

some still do ...

[Baker]

5 hours ago, cog said:

I just wonder, if it wouldn't be more logical to start from the centre line and work outwards?

I now have 5 planks on each side of the mast.
And there comes central 1 in the middle, this plank will then be slightly wider than the other planks.

 

My knowledge of the English language is not that good (Never learned it at school).

So, Mr. Google says

 chart = grafiek =

Since I am active on this forum my English knowledge has improved. But it looks if there are different ways to speak and write English.

English english
American English
Australian English

 

Is this correct ?

[md1400cs]

Patrick,

 

Yes ALL charts. That said could be column, line, pie, bar, ...... all confusing indeed. including your Dutch word

A naval chart is just another name for a map, could also be nautical chart.

 

FYI https://mapshop.net.au/mscharts.html

[Apxeos]

Wonderful work, Patrick. Very lively captain's cabin.

If I remember correctly, weapons were stored in it. 

I want to recommend you one topic on rigging Pelican / Golden Hind, but I'm not sure that the administration allows links to extraneous sites.

Are you also a tankman?

 

Ron

[Baker]

16 hours ago, Apxeos said:

Are you also a tankman?

Thanks Apxeos.

Someone who has built more than 1400 military models. Is probably "a tankman".

 

In the meantime this shipyard has been neglected in function of my little Bounty project.
The only thing that happened the last months :
The poop deck is largely planked and the LED lighting has been tested.

 

Also, 

Through these months of silence at this shipyard. I'm thinking about changing the title of this log.
Given the fact that making an exact copy of the Golden Hind is impossible. It might be better to delete this name from the title.

Maybe

"Pelican"- scale 1/45 -  How an English armed merchant merchant from the 2nd half of the 16th century may have looked like.

Merry Christmas and a happy 2020 to everyone

Edited December 25, 2019 by Backer

[Louie da fly]

On 8/27/2019 at 7:52 PM, Backer said:

The grating appears to have come into use later. Mostly on ships that sailed to the tropical seas. 
Possible to cool the area under this deck. Or to give the helmsman a better view of the sails. Who knows?

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the grating came into use with the advent of below-deck guns, to disperse the powder smoke. What evidence this statement is based on, I don't know, but it seems to make sense.

 

Beautiful work, as usual.

 

Reconstructing a famous ship for which there are no plans or contemporary pictures (e.g. the Mathew, the Mayflower etc) can only be an educated guess based on available information, and certainly there's no way of knowing what exactly the Golden Hind looked like. But to my mind you have every justification in keeping the name - I think that with the thorough and painstaking research you've put into it your model approaches more closely the true form she would have had than any other I've ever seen.

 

Steven

[Baker]

On 1/10/2020 at 9:07 PM, canoe21 said:

Hello Patrick, Just catching up on your Golden Hind build. Great job you are doing with all of that great detail.

Thanks Lawrence. Much appreciated.

 

On 1/11/2020 at 9:46 AM, Louie da fly said:

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the grating came into use with the advent of below-deck guns, to disperse the powder smoke. What evidence this statement is based on, I don't know, but it seems to make sense.

Somewhere  I also read the same. I think in the book " the ship" from Bjorn landstrom.

Grating will be provided in the hatches on the main deck.

Building a 16th century ship is harder than I ever thought...

 

Meanwhile.
The build of this little model is the cause of all the delays on this shipyard.