Old Sea Dog Posted April 6, 2013 Share #31 Posted April 6, 2013 Looking good so far keep up the good work. Quote Dave No problem can be solved from the level of consciousness that created it. Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share #32 Posted April 8, 2013 Well I just picked up a nice piece of model grade ply - 12 x 12 x 1/2" for my building board, now I need to make the square for raising the frames and get the keel drilled, tapped and mounted to the board - maybe in a few weeks I will be able to show some progress. ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 9, 2013 Share #33 Posted April 9, 2013 A few weeks Ben????????? Then you can help me with the ratlines Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share #34 Posted April 9, 2013 Sorry Sjors, too busy on the Confederacy. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted April 9, 2013 Share #35 Posted April 9, 2013 Sorry Sjors, too busy on the Confederacy. What Ben! You can lend a hand. I don't remember there being any ratlines on the Confederacy! Sjors 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share #36 Posted April 10, 2013 Now Now Rusty, Dont set him off!! Remember Im doing 3 builds the same as you! Sjors - I think Rusty would have more experience than I on tying ratlines anyway - send the Mirage to him for a few weeks, he can try 4 builds at once. ben Rustyj 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 11, 2013 Share #37 Posted April 11, 2013 You are very helpful guy's……. Maybe I skip that part Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted April 15, 2013 Well this is a happy day! I was just informed by my boss that we will be receiving a bonus cheque this year!! :-)) I asked the admiral of the house and she said I can spend it how I wish!! I told her that Byrnes model machines was gonna take the lot to upgrade my workshop with some fine tools to help start my darkside career, she smiled sideways and said " whatever you need ". Ahhh! Love works in soooo many ways! Ben mtaylor, Jaxboat and Sjors 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 16, 2013 Share #39 Posted April 16, 2013 Wow! Congratulations Ben - both on the bonus and on the Admiral. She either REALLY loves you, or sees this as a way to keep you out of her hair for longer ...... I'm leavin' you to work out which....... But either way, HAPPY DAYS ahead! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 16, 2013 Share #40 Posted April 16, 2013 Ben, Does your boss need some new employers??????? Great news and what are you gonna buy? At the end of the month I'm also buying a few tools….from Proxxon! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share #41 Posted April 16, 2013 Hi Grant - Yeh, I'm not sure which it is either but then ignorance can sometimes be bliss. Sjors - First purchase will be the Jim Byrnes table saw with a few add-ons, we will see how much if any money is left after that. ben Jaxboat 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jml1083 Posted April 16, 2013 Share #42 Posted April 16, 2013 Congrates on all fronts Ben. I just got the Byrnes disk sander and it is amazing. Jim & Donna put their hearts and souls into their machines. You'll love it. Quote Jim L What we ever hope to do with ease, we must learn first to do with diligence. - Samuel Johnson On the Building Ways: Launched: Contracts Signed: Member: The Nautical Research Guild The US Naval Institute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted April 16, 2013 Share #43 Posted April 16, 2013 Ahoy Ben Been lurking here to long to not to say hello and compliment you on this build Congratz on the bonus check too. I am sure it was well deserved. Enjoy the toys Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted April 16, 2013 Thanks Jim and JP. Cant wait to see how much I get, then spend it all at Byrnes toy store. Jaxboat 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 16, 2013 Share #45 Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Ben, Regardless of how much your bonus actually is, rest easy knowing that postage is not going to cost you an extra 50% as it does for those of us buying for the other side of the world! Though I have to say, that even with the postage costs, they are still well worth the money and you will be delighted with whatever you get. I can't wait to hear what you end up with! Edited April 16, 2013 by gjdale Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted May 8, 2013 Share #46 Posted May 8, 2013 Hi Ben good to see starting your cross section....! Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share #47 Posted June 6, 2013 Hi all, Well if you don't know from my Confed build, I am now the proud owner of a bundle of Byrnes tools, I have the JimSaw, disc and thickness sanders to join my dewalt scroll saw. I have been practicing and getting used to using them for the last few weeks and boy am I impressed. Anyway this weekend I will be taking a break from painting and building the Confeds cannons and I am going to make another keel using the power tools and see which I think is better. I will post pics of them both together when done. Ben Sjors, druxey, Rustyj and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #48 Posted June 8, 2013 Well I made another keel using the power tools, I dont think its much better than my hand tools one but it sure was faster, 3 hours instead of 10. I taped the build board plan to my 12 x 12 plywood, drilled it and mounted the keel. Now I have started cutting floors and futtocks out. One question - for the 8 1/4 sided futtocks, which stock do I use, 8 or 8 1/2? There is only one billet of 8 1/2 and two billets of 8 inch so if I do use the 8 1/2 and thickness it down, I think I will run out of stock. Dead flat and Dead flat 1 are cut out and glue is drying, i left a 1/32 line around the frames as I cut them out as " meat " for fairing, hope this is enough. now I have to start thinking of how to make the chocks, I know greg says he does them on his disc sander and gets really good results, any idea how exactly he does it? using the miter gauge I assume. ben fatih79 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #49 Posted June 8, 2013 Build board. fatih79 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 8, 2013 Share #50 Posted June 8, 2013 Very very nice Ben, Handy such tools Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #51 Posted June 8, 2013 Frames fatih79 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 8, 2013 Share #52 Posted June 8, 2013 Nice work Ben. Gotta love those power tools! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 9, 2013 Share #53 Posted June 9, 2013 Sweet work, Ben. I'm looking forward to seeing more. As for the chocks... good question as I've not done them on any build. Do you have any of the TFFM books? I think David A. explains how to do chocks in Volume 1. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #54 Posted June 9, 2013 Hi mark, I have all the TFFM books as I plan on building a swan when I finish all my other builds. There is no real set way described, just adjust until they fit, I guess a bit of trial and error will show the way. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted June 9, 2013 Share #55 Posted June 9, 2013 Your frame looks great. Like the way that your joints are showing. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 9, 2013 Share #56 Posted June 9, 2013 Ben, Re the chocks, I thought I remembered Greg posting something with pictures on this. Failing all else, I suggest you PM Greg - I'm sure he'll answer in a flash, and more than likely will post something for other Echo builders. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted June 9, 2013 Share #57 Posted June 9, 2013 Ben, sorry about the delay in answering. I just returned from a cruise on the largest cruise ship in the world, Oasis of the Seas. If you have the Byrnes disc sander, doing the chocks is easy. First, I trace place the glued up futtocks carefully over the blank and trace the shape. Next I cut very closely to the outside lines with my scroll saw. Finally, the edges are dressed to final shape by lightly feeding them against the Byrnes disk sander. I use a small sacrificial ply scrap underneath the chock and push it against the sanding disk with my finger. Keep offering it up to the frames and refine until it's a press fit. Make sure the chock is as thick as the lower futtock, as they are stepped! Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #58 Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Hi Greg, Thanks for the help, I have started making the chocks and I find the easiest way is to have a bit of a tab to hold onto while I sand the angles and sides, it wastes a little bit of wood that I cut away after the chock is glued in place but it seems to be working really well for me now, I completed the dead flat today and the joints are almost invisible. Now I have to find some bamboo skewers to make treenails with! Ben Edited June 9, 2013 by Trussben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 9, 2013 Share #59 Posted June 9, 2013 The amount of waste wood on the 'handle' of a chock is a very small sacrifice to make for the ease of handling this small part. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #60 Posted June 9, 2013 Your right Druxey, I kept trying to use tiny scrap parts of wood and just could not accurately get good joints, as soon as I used a bit bigger piece it was soooo much easier to manipulate it and feed it to the disc sander and achieve the correct angles. Steep leaning curve to this scratch building but I am enjoying it greatly, after I finished the dead flat frame I ran excitedly to show the admiral and she was even impressed! Ben Rustyj 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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