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I didn't notice either about the wheel!! The problem is that whilst mine does indeed go round the crank arms or whatever they are called will not slide in and out of the engine room hence I have had to fix mine to stop those arms from repeatedly coming off.

Current build : Gorch Fock Occre

 

Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave.

Previous boat builds:

Amerigo Vespucci Occre

Yacht Mary

Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified)

Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave.

Mare Nostrum (modified)  Amati Oseberg (modified)  Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884   Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build   

OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section 

Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer  Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat   OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull 

Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW)

In the Gallery:
 Mare Nostrum   Oesberg  Constructo Lady Smith   Constructo Robert E Lee   Constructo Louise   OcCre Bounty   OcCre Spirit of Mississippi

Posted
3 hours ago, Tigersteve said:

Since you did light it, it would make sense to add a hidden motor to the wheel so it rotates. I know that takes pre planning, but if it's doable, that would be a cool feature. Either way it's awesome. 

Steve

Motor driven stern wheel would have been cool, but ain't gonna happen now!:(

Posted
3 hours ago, Mike Dowling said:

I didn't notice either about the wheel!! The problem is that whilst mine does indeed go round the crank arms or whatever they are called will not slide in and out of the engine room hence I have had to fix mine to stop those arms from repeatedly coming off.

I see what you mean Mike, a bit of forward thinking and it would be achievable without to much effort but too late now for this old tub.

I haven't attached the wheel yet but it is trapped in the trusses so I can't remove it, not far to go now.

Posted

Making a sternwheel operate is much more difficult than adding an electric motor.  Most operating model sternwheels use a circular drive wheel, inside the engine room, that the inboard end of the Pitman arms attach to.  This makes the pitman arms operate in a circular motion while the real steam engine connection to the inboard end of the pitman arm is a slide mechanism that goes fore and aft and the pitman arm attached to the sternwheel follows the sternwheel's circular motion.  The inboard end slides back and forth at a set elevation while the outboard end rotates in a circular motion where it attaches to the sternwheel.  When you see the slide mechanism operate vs the inner wheel type drive the latter looks very toy like. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, kurtvd19 said:

Making a sternwheel operate is much more difficult than adding an electric motor.  Most operating model sternwheels use a circular drive wheel, inside the engine room, that the inboard end of the Pitman arms attach to.  This makes the pitman arms operate in a circular motion while the real steam engine connection to the inboard end of the pitman arm is a slide mechanism that goes fore and aft and the pitman arm attached to the sternwheel follows the sternwheel's circular motion.  The inboard end slides back and forth at a set elevation while the outboard end rotates in a circular motion where it attaches to the sternwheel.  When you see the slide mechanism operate vs the inner wheel type drive the latter looks very toy like. 

Kurt

Ummm, I don't think I would apply that system, I agree with you that a linear motion is a must have at the front of the pitman arms to look right. This would be purely to replicate the geometry, maybe a tee slot slide for the arm to traverse along, the difficult thing would be getting drive to it from a motor. Not sure how that would be achieved, but maybe a small air pump could drive the buckets and the pitmans just go along for a ride, that would be novel and a fun project maybe for the next stern wheel build. Image that a wind powered steamer lol.

 

Posted

Nice work.  She looks like she's been out on the river for quite a while.  And like the way you didn't blacken the stacks but added some rust

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

If it were me I would make the stacks a bit blacker, they look like  weathered white which has had a nasty attack by seagulls! 

Current build : Gorch Fock Occre

 

Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave.

Previous boat builds:

Amerigo Vespucci Occre

Yacht Mary

Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified)

Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave.

Mare Nostrum (modified)  Amati Oseberg (modified)  Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884   Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build   

OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section 

Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer  Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat   OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull 

Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW)

In the Gallery:
 Mare Nostrum   Oesberg  Constructo Lady Smith   Constructo Robert E Lee   Constructo Louise   OcCre Bounty   OcCre Spirit of Mississippi

Posted

Personally I agree with Mike; it's not the level of weathering per se, it's that they don't look like the original metal was ever black. It's a bit distracting since overall the goal of weathering is to make the model more realistic, and in this case the eye wonders, "hey, why does that look like an unpainted white metal casting?". I think you could darken them a bit and still get the rusty, beaten-up effect you're going for.

 

But that being said, it's your model of course and you shouldn't construe such opinions as a reflection on the work. It's lovely and you've a right to finish it how you like. After all, you'll be looking at it a lot more than the rest of us!

Posted

Mike, Cathead,

                    Yep, needs backing off on the old rust, it is a bit to much, it only wraps half way round the stack, the back is black but the beauty of layering colour is I can and will add some more to blend it in better.

Thx for your critical comments, I was on the fence a s to whether to change it or not, you gave me the nudge needed.

I'll post new pics when updated.

 

Len

Posted

Well, Olive Oyle finally kicked me out of the kitchen so I had to get my 'new' work bench completed in the spare room. Much better place for a ship yard. The Chaperon is very, very close to completion now, one life boat to mount and rig and final bit of paint work and it will be completed. I will be adding more cargo as bits show up in yard sales and the likes but the boat is complete. I'll post some pics tonight.

Mike, Cathead, I've tamed the stack aging down, looks much better but 'm still not completely happy with the effect. I wish I had a good pic of weathered stacks as a guide, a black and white would be fine but a colour pic would be better, anyone got a good pic??? please, please.

 

Thx to all who look in and happy modelling.

 

A couple of pics.................

 

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Len

Posted

Oh goodness, it's so tidy!!! Stacks look much better from the distance shot.

Current build : Gorch Fock Occre

 

Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave.

Previous boat builds:

Amerigo Vespucci Occre

Yacht Mary

Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified)

Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave.

Mare Nostrum (modified)  Amati Oseberg (modified)  Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884   Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build   

OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section 

Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer  Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat   OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull 

Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW)

In the Gallery:
 Mare Nostrum   Oesberg  Constructo Lady Smith   Constructo Robert E Lee   Constructo Louise   OcCre Bounty   OcCre Spirit of Mississippi

Posted

Hi all, (or both), whichever is the most :10_1_10: a couple of updates to show. I figured I'd be finished last week, but the devil is surely in the detail, still a bit to do.

For Mike and Cathead, repainted the stacks, much darker now and they look a lot better, still not quite right but as good as I can get them. Thx for the nudge guys!

 

I had been itching to make a tissue canopy I found on Youtube, pretty pleased with how it worked out, MS supplied me with 3 boats so I covered the spare, it's not attached so don't be supprised if it vanishes one night.

 

Tx for looking in, next post should be it I'm thinking.

 

 

1.This is drying, just 50/50 mix of white glue dabbed all over the boat.

2. Painted up, ready to be blown off the roof.

3. Repainted stacks.

 

Thx for looking in.

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Posted

Oh yes, much, much better and I just love the lifeboats. Looking at the state of your Chaperon I can see them being needed!!!

Current build : Gorch Fock Occre

 

Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave.

Previous boat builds:

Amerigo Vespucci Occre

Yacht Mary

Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified)

Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave.

Mare Nostrum (modified)  Amati Oseberg (modified)  Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884   Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build   

OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section 

Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer  Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat   OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull 

Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW)

In the Gallery:
 Mare Nostrum   Oesberg  Constructo Lady Smith   Constructo Robert E Lee   Constructo Louise   OcCre Bounty   OcCre Spirit of Mississippi

Posted

That canopy looks fantastic; what a great approach! And the chimneys now really fit into the rest of the model. I'm going to miss this build, but it's got me itching to start my next one.

Posted
53 minutes ago, Cathead said:

That canopy looks fantastic; what a great approach! And the chimneys now really fit into the rest of the model. I'm going to miss this build, but it's got me itching to start my next one.

You're too kind Cathead, but you won't miss it as much as I will. I have already reserved a ring side seat for your next bout, I too am itching for you to start it.

Posted
Posted

Thanks for the video link.  But I've had a lot of experience in my  1:35 scale plastic Tamiya armor models using tissue to simulate tarps, bed rolls and the like. It works great and looks good. You did a nice job with yours.

Posted

              !!!!!!!!ALMOST FINISHED!!!!!!!!

At least as far as I plan to take it right now. I need some cargo which I'll pick up along the way and a bit of touching up here and there, but I have run out of bits and the next build is already drawing me in.

 

I have to add the cones to the stacks and mount the rudders, will definitely be done today.

 

 

One interesting point:-

Not bad entertainment for 74 days at a cost of $2.20 US a day, ( I benefitted from the 2 for 1 deal that MS ran back in October, they credited my account $99. :champagne-popping-smiley-emotic

I will edit the title to reflect the finished status later today, add additional pics, notes and credits etc.

 

 

Message for Mike, except where it leaks, this ship is 100% watertight! So there!

 

Blighty.

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