SMS Helgoland by Papa - Modelik - 1:200 - CARD

[Papa]

the photo isn't very good.  I was in a hurry. Will take some better shops next time.

Quite noticeable that I photo-shopped out the work bench clutter. LOL

[Papa]

 

 

A better picture and have capped the tiny cylinders around the funnels.

 

 

[Papa]

Can't figure out how to remove a posted photo 

[cog]

Edit the post, in the bottom part of the editor you see the images from your post. When you move your mouse over the small picture you see a '+' sign on the left and a wastebasket-icon on the right klick that one, and away it is

Edited November 9, 2017 by cog

[Dan Vadas]

7 hours ago, ragove said:

Can't figure out how to remove a posted photo 

What Carl said, but I've already done it for you .

 

  Danny

[Papa]

can't get it to work. This the better picture; I adjusted the lighting

[Dan Vadas]

1 hour ago, ragove said:

This the better picture; I adjusted the lighting

Oops, sorry Ron, I deleted the wrong pic in the previous post .

 

Here's a tip for narrow pieces like the funnel "braces". After cutting the cross-piece out run some thin CA along the edges, this will stiffen the piece and prevent (or at least lessen) the piece from getting out of shape. You can still adjust them now, and then use the CA. I use a needle with the end of the eye ground off, held in an Xacto handle, to pick up the CA from a small puddle on an old spray can lid (the CA stays workable for a few hours).

 

  Danny

[Papa]

1 hour ago, Dan Vadas said:

Oops, sorry Ron, I deleted the wrong pic in the previous post .

 

Here's a tip for narrow pieces like the funnel "braces". After cutting the cross-piece out run some thin CA along the edges, this will stiffen the piece and prevent (or at least lessen) the piece from getting out of shape. You can still adjust them now, and then use the CA. I use a needle with the end of the eye ground off, held in an Xacto handle, to pick up the CA from a small puddle on an old spray can lid (the CA stays workable for a few hours).

 

  Danny

Thanks for the hint Dan. The braces (so that's what they are) kept falling apart on me. I think I will make some new ones and use your suggestion.

[Papa]

The workers at he Danubius shipyard had a busy week tearing out the funnel braces and replacing then with sturdier material--styrene.  Hope it doesn't melt when they fire up the boilers.  They also completed the 3 ventilation houses between the funnels.

Edited November 15, 2017 by ragove
typo corrected

[Papa]

I was initially surprised at the number of ventilation pipes on the ship. But then it hit me, at the time she was built she most likely didn't have any air conditioning below decks.  It would have been hotter'n hell in there! So lots of pipes to bring in fresh air.

[amateur]

And I think it is not only fresh air for those working over there. I don't know how many fires there were to keep the steam pressure on. Coals also need some air to burn

 

Jan

[Papa]

22 hours ago, amateur said:

And I think it is not only fresh air for those working over there. I don't know how many fires there were to keep the steam pressure on. Coals also need some air to burn

 

Jan

Very true!

[Papa]

While assembling deck house-part 24 I seem to have come across a printing error. There are two different parts 24d, and no part 24c.  I believe that the longer part 24d is actually 24c and that is where I put it.  I also printed out a second copy of 24, cut off the railings and glued them on the inside edge. Thought it would look better than painting.  i think what I am talking about is clear from the pictures.

[Papa]

Very slowly making progress in attaching all the little bits. Up to part 33 now.  Infinitely many left I think.

The little black squares have a separate round disk on top.

[Papa]

I need some help.  I got to part 38, which per the instructions is the rear deckhouse. However there is no space on the deck labeled "38". I think it is the white area shown in the photo because the parts sheet has a 38c, and there is a block "c" next to the white space.  Also there are 2 parts 58 that are identified by two small circles on 38a, see photo, and also on the deck plan and seems to be in the right general location. And, there is the mast hole in the right place.  Now for the quandary. The deck house, part 38, has 6 sides. The white blank space has 8 sides,  I've tried 2 different folds and neither makes much sense. There is also supposed to be a line to show where the stairs go, but I don't see it  I am thinking that 2 sides were left out of the print.  There is some extra grey on the parts sheet that i could cut sides from.   Thoughts anyone?

[Papa]

looking at the blow up, I now think I see where the stairs go.

[Papa]

I am totally stuck. Did a lot of Googleing but can't find an image with enough resolution to see what this cabin is suppose to look like.  No matter, the wife and I are going to be traveling to warmer weather until April so Helgoland and Granado are going into dry dock for the duration.  i will have to focus on reading, drinking wine, and perhaps making sketches of ships.

[Papa]

Gave up and tossed the kit in the trash. 

Might try another some day.

[ccoyle]

Hey, Ron. Don't fret! You took on a fairly challenging project. My first couple of card models wound up in the trash, too -- there's a learning curve, to be sure. When you get around to feeling like another try, may I suggest having a crack at a free model? There's some good ones out there. 

[Javlin]

2 hours ago, ragove said:

Gave up and tossed the kit in the trash. 

Might try another some day.

Been there done that on some plastic it happens.

[Papa]

2 hours ago, ccoyle said:

Hey, Ron. Don't fret! You took on a fairly challenging project. My first couple of card models wound up in the trash, too -- there's a learning curve, to be sure. When you get around to feeling like another try, may I suggest having a crack at a free model? There's some good ones out there. 

I’ve looked at some free models. Can’t decide what to try, decisions decisions 😬

[amateur]

The V108 is doable (especially when you have ccoyles easy to follow instructions at hand) there are some free downloads at papershipwright, but they are a bit fiddly (more tha v108), but there is Dan cerberus-build, you can refer to in case of emergency (don't tey to match his quality, that is beyond our possibilities  )

 

Jan

[Papa]

The free downloads at Digital Navy no longer work.

[ccoyle]

Ron, we obtained permission from Roman to host the V-108 files here. Go to the first post in Pt. V of the V-108 tutorial.

[Papa]

On 4/20/2019 at 8:33 PM, ccoyle said:

Ron, we obtained permission from Roman to host the V-108 files here. Go to the first post in Pt. V of the V-108 tutorial.

Thanks. I found them. Next step is to download and print.😁

[Papa]

Does anyone have a recommendation for specific card stock at Staples, for example. They don’t specify the actual thickness. I am at a loss as to what to purchase.

[ccoyle]

Ron, U.S. card stocks are usually sold by weight, with card stock being labeled anywhere between 60 and 120 lb. Since you have experience with card kits, just grab whatever looks and feels right. You can use spray adhesive to laminate sheets together for thicker stock. Also, ask the counter clerks at the store if they have remnants from opened packages available for you to examine. That way you can "test drive" a particular stock by the sheet instead of buying an entire package.

[Papa]

6 hours ago, ccoyle said:

Ron, U.S. card stocks are usually sold by weight, with card stock being labeled anywhere between 60 and 120 lb. Since you have experience with card kits, just grab whatever looks and feels right. You can use spray adhesive to laminate sheets together for thicker stock. Also, ask the counter clerks at the store if they have remnants from opened packages available for you to examine. That way you can "test drive" a particular stock by the sheet instead of buying an entire package.

I didn’t think I’d find samples available. I’ll give it a try.

[rpeteru]

Gents I think the expression is "Chateau Carboard"

[Papa]

On 9/2/2017 at 9:24 AM, ragove said:

Actually, i have made no more progress. Too much going on right now,

 

I tossed the whole thing in the trash. I recently purchased a paper model of the USS United States from Model Dock Yard. I plan to start another build log in the near future. I hope this one goes better.  I have followed Dan Vadas' advice and made an index of all the parts so I can easily find the page they are on and each page is in a plastic page protector in a ring-binder.