Derek C Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share #31 Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, alde said: Frames look nice so far. Sometimes I think our primary hobby is sanding with a little ship modeling thrown in now and then. Lmao Thanks alde I agree with you about the sanding ,but I find it somewhat soothing 😜 alde 1 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share #32 Posted November 18, 2017 I decided to put in the nuts to mount the keel assembly to my build board . first I ground down two sides of the nuts,using my dermal Then I clamp the false keel and keel together in the vise and drilled through the false keel , and approximately half way into the keel . using a 11 blade and files I cut out the recessed notch in the keel for the nuts to fit in flush I then added glue to the keel and applied the false keel to the keel covering the recessed nuts I used a couple of screws to assure alignment and clamped it all together to dry. thanks for for looking in Derek alde and zappto 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alde Posted November 18, 2017 Share #33 Posted November 18, 2017 Good plan. I looking forward to see how you do this. The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share #34 Posted November 18, 2017 Here it is all glued up tight , you can see the nuts in there new home .I will use these to mount the keel to the build board ,and later to mount to the base . davec, Jolley Roger, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share #35 Posted November 23, 2017 Happy Thanksgiving fellow MSW Members Just a little update on my progress. I am still gluing frames together as I sit here smelling all the good things cooking in the kitchen . I had planned on finishing the gluing today but I fear once I eat the gluing will stop and the napping will proceed. Thanks for looking in. Derek zappto, Pete38, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share #36 Posted November 25, 2017 I was moving right along today sanding the frames with 80 grit to get close to the final shape I only had a couple more to go when I decided to get a refill on my coffee.stood up ,grabbed my cup and slung #5 frame across the room . Apparently it had hooked the cup 🤨. so to fix it .I drilled holes in the center of each of the frame pieces,using a #72 bit. i then cut two pieces of wire 3/4 of a inch in length ,and inserted them with glue into the holes of one piece then filled holes of other pieces with glue. then in I assembled the pieces and set on a flat surface to dry. tomorrow I will sand and see if it will hold up or if i need to cut and assemble a new frame.i feel pretty confident in the repair. Here is a pic of the ones that are ready to get rubbed with 220 grit paper before assembly begins . i will post a pic of the repaired frame tomorrow to show how it came out whether it’s good, bad, or ugly lol Thanks for looking in .👋🏻 Derek davec, zappto, alde and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted November 26, 2017 Share #37 Posted November 26, 2017 Nice recovery on the frame. Canute, Derek C and mtaylor 3 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share #38 Posted November 26, 2017 The repair on the frame feels strong , I will do a bit more sanding to it then take care of any cosmetics if needed. i also worked on another cannon barrel using same technique as used on the first barrel, I still need to make wheels for the second carriage and finish fitting them with hardware for rigging. I will continue to play with my frames , sanding , cleaning,and dry fitting them today in hopes to get them assembled next week. Derek Tom E, Pete38, davec and 1 other 4 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share #39 Posted November 26, 2017 After sanding for a bit I got up enough confidence to assemble the frames to the keel. Now I wait for them to dry .Then I can pull out the spacers and tack in some temporary stiffeners to fair the inside and out .Everything is square and true right now I hope it stays that way once all the clamps and bands are removed. 🤞🏻 We shall see what tomorrow brings Derek MEDDO, Jolley Roger, Tom E and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted November 27, 2017 Share #40 Posted November 27, 2017 Hey Derek, You are going fast! Your cross section quickly takes shape. Nice repair you made at your frame. I believe that your frames are a bit fragile because the wood grain of the futtocks is at places very transversal. It had maybe been better that the grain follows more the direction of the futtock length. G.L. mtaylor and Canute 2 G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share #41 Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks G.L. I never thought about grain direction, I will definitely remember to take the grain direction into account next time I’m cutting out parts . Derek mtaylor and Canute 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted November 27, 2017 Share #42 Posted November 27, 2017 I’ll second the comments on grain direction, although if the grain is transverse and the matching futtock is longitudinal, the frame should be strong; it’ll look better with longitudinal grain, however. Canute, mtaylor, G.L. and 1 other 4 Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #43 Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) I have only made a small bit of progress , I glued in permanent spacers and faired inside and out. I was wanting to leave half the frame work open to show but I’m not sure my frames are good enough for that . i still need to file down spacers to get them sized . Thanks for checking in ! Derek Edited December 3, 2017 by Derek C DocBlake, scasey88, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted December 3, 2017 Share #44 Posted December 3, 2017 I really like the color/hue the wood has. I don't know if its the camera, but it almost looks pink. What type is it, and, will you stain it? mtaylor and Derek C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #45 Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks Tom The Frames are Red Oak , the false keel and keelson are blood wood . The planking will be cherry and hard maple I’m thinking 🤔 I will be using a wipe on poly clear and natural . On the frames and planking Thanks for the kind words and inquires on my build . Derek mtaylor and Tom E 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #46 Posted December 3, 2017 I worked on limber strake and limber boards today I got one side fit. I used a #11 blade to cut the seat for the limber board into the limber strake i used files to get final shape. The limber boards were shaped by hand using sanding blocks and files . I then marked and scored with a small triangle file to simulate 4 foot scale sections and drilled holes in the ends of each section to allow the crew access. Using a high temp soldiering Iron I chard the scored marks,holes,and edges to give it a bit of character I am working on the other side , now hopefully I can get it done tonight , but the admiral has other plans I believe. Hope you like the progress,and thanks for looking in😁 Derek Pete38, G.L., scasey88 and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #47 Posted December 3, 2017 I managed to get the limber board and strake done on the other side here it is . I am am pleased with the end result. Derek Tom E, Pete38, alde and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted December 5, 2017 Share #48 Posted December 5, 2017 Looking really nice, leaving open frames would look good mtaylor, Canute, Derek C and 1 other 4 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted December 5, 2017 Share #49 Posted December 5, 2017 Nice job on the limber boards. mtaylor, Derek C, Tom E and 1 other 4 Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share #50 Posted December 5, 2017 Thanks Pete and Doc . Slowly making headway , at times I feel like im headed straight into the wind . Derek mtaylor, Canute and Tom E 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 5, 2017 Share #51 Posted December 5, 2017 You'll get there Derek. I think everyone on their first scratch build feels that at some point. Come to think of it, I think it applies to most of us with any build. Derek C, Tom E and Canute 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share #52 Posted December 6, 2017 Thanks Mark , I just needed to come up with a plan , or the next step lol.I believe I will put up the thicker planking for the deck beams next , then the wales. I feel like im all over the place on this build . looking through the logs it seems there is no real set in stone approach , so im just going to kick back and let the build tell me whats next . Derek mtaylor and Canute 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 6, 2017 Share #53 Posted December 6, 2017 I think most of went that way.... let the build tell us. Canute and Derek C 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share #54 Posted December 9, 2017 I started cutting the planks for the thickest inner planks. I used a box knife to cut the pre milled sheets to the approximate size then clamped them in my vice . Then sanded them to the correct dimensions I then proceeded to glue and clamp them down. Here is what she’s looking like at this stage . Thanks for looking Derek Tom E, Canute, G.L. and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share #55 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) I cut , sanded , and prepared the rest of the planking dry fitting each plank as I went to ensure a proper fit.Then I got out the clamps and started gluing them down. once i had all the planks down I trimmed ,and sanded both sides of the cross section to give it a nice edge .and again I used the soldiering iron to enhance the planking. Once I got the look I wanted I decided it was time for a coat of wipe on poly clear ,satin finish . well thats How she’s looking so far. The next step I will work on is the Wales and deck beams. Thanks for checking in !! Derek Edited December 10, 2017 by Derek C mtaylor, alde, G.L. and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadB Posted December 13, 2017 Share #56 Posted December 13, 2017 Looking good Derek! Interesting idea using the soldering iron on the edges of the boards! Chad mtaylor, Canute and Derek C 3 Completed Models: Triton Cross Section In Progress: Brig Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share #57 Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks Chad ! the last few days I have been cutting Mahogany for the outer planking . I marked each on and then used a utility knife to cut them out . Then I clamped them in a vice using a random piece of teak I had laying around to bring the planking above the jaws of the vice.Using a razor blade and sanding block I got them uniform. Here are the sanded planks I cut and prepared 41 planks I will make all final adjustments to them when gluing. Thanks for Checking in. Derek mtaylor, Canute and Tom E 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share #58 Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) I layed down the planking up to where my lower deck will be placed . I used my soldering iron to blacken up all sides of the planks and then glued them down . I then marked out where I wanted my butt joints and nail holes and used my iron again to mark them out. I then rubbed it with 220 grit then 1000 grit paper and rubbed on a coat of clear poly. This is how she is looking , She is coming together slowly but surely ,I believe I will start on the lower deck tomorrow . Thanks for checking in Derek Edited December 16, 2017 by Derek C Canute, mtaylor, zappto and 1 other 4 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share #59 Posted December 17, 2017 I woke up today with a cold , not much energy , but I did get the faux tree nailing on the lower section of the inside . I figured I better get it done now before I start on the lower deck . Then I cut out the four pieces of red oak to make the main deck beams and placed them in the vice to start cleaning ,and sizing before I soak them . thats it for now I hope to make a bit more progress today . Thanks Derek Tom E, mtaylor and Canute 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek C Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share #60 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) I got the deck beams clean and true then soaked them in hot water, for approximately a hour . Then I used a piece of 1/4 inch board under the center of the beams and clamped them down . I decided to dry them quickly with my Dewalt heat gun , Once they dried I cut out the template for the beams to know where my notches needed to be ,and then glued them . Then I broke out my files and started cutting in the notches . Here they are dry fitted in place . thanks fir looking in ! Derek Edited December 17, 2017 by Derek C Canute, zappto, Tom E and 2 others 5 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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