Yacht Mary by Mike Dowling - Mamoli

[Mike Dowling]

I think I have gone as far as I dare now going from the top down. Clinkering is becoming a real problem so I think I have to go from the bottom up to meet it. I nearly got to the waterline at the front which was my hope.

 

[diablo0007]

really grate work you ve done  Mick

[popeye the sailor]

planking looks pretty good Mike........if there is clinkering,  it's minimal    

[shihawk]

hi mike , long time , i was brousing and happened on your log , so thought it was only manners to let u know i,m still keepin an eye on u . like u i took  small break , well a long break i suppose , but my mojo has revived and i,m back in the workshop  have almost finished the vic but not made any posts incase i fall of again , your yacht

Mary is lookin good , your usual high standard , i hope the business is still going well and still hope to get up to see u some time if the price is right lol 

 

best regards Boyd 

 

[Mike Dowling]

Hi Boyd, lovely to have you back and thank you for the comments. As you will have gathered, Mary is proving a bit of a struggle but I won't be beaten !!

[cog]

Darn missed the start. Next time send me a PM  

Looking good so far Mike. Considering the shape of the hull, you could have taken a look at the Staten Yachts from Holland. We have had quite a few plumb nosed ships 

[Mike Dowling]

 

Sorry Carl, I hoped you might turn up. Hope all is OK with you.

 

For those following along I am still trying to finish the gap in my planking from the bottom up. I think just maybe I was over ambitious with my working down layers and should have stopped a bit before. As a result, no matter how hard I try not to I am going to have some very pointy pieces. I realise this is a complete no no but within my planking capabilities it will be the best I can do. The saving grace will be that as the mess will be below the waterline and eventually painted white I reckon it will be hard to spot !

Watch this space !!

[flying_dutchman2]

I am a bit late,  I just saw this thread and have a few comments. I built the Mary as well and working on the Utrecht (scratch). 

With flat bottom boats such as yachts and many other Dutch Ships planking the hull is a completely different ball game. It is not like the other models you see here on MSW. It is an exercise of extreme bending. 

 

I start with the wales first than a few planks below the lower wale. There isn't much of a garboard stake. I align the plank straight next to the keel and let it flow naturally, going straight up at the bow. You will install many steelers 

 

When you're facing the bow, your wales need to be straight. I know you cannot change that now. Your last picture shows that you are forced to start at the keel and work your way up. Just lay the planks and let them flow, don't force the curve. When you reach the completed planking there will be lots of measurements. Overall the planking that is completed is well done. 

With the Utrecht I used walnut as the second planking. I soak the planks for about 4 to 5 days and over bend them because walnut springs back a bit. When the are soaked I lay them down on the hull and use push puns, clamps and whatever I can find to hold it down. After they are formed I use Elmer's white glue to glue them in place. Wales are also walnut but I laminate them to get the thickness. This has worked well for me for several boats. 

 

Search for Utrecht and Mary under flying_dutchman2. The Utrecht built has many planking pictures. This would take a long written description.

 

I built only Dutch Ships and have built several flat and round bottom boats. Similar ships of extreme plank bending would be the Endeavor. 

Marcus 

 

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by flying_dutchman2
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[Mike Dowling]

Nice advise Marcus but, as you say, a bit late for me. I have nearly finished the second planking now. It will look OK above the waterline !!

[Mike Dowling]

Well here it is folks warts and all ! Finally covered although I must give up my dream of exhibiting in a museum !!!

 

The clinkering looks worse than it is in the photos I promise. I have to cover the false keel at the bow and stern and will then give it all a proper sanding and a coat of sealer. I think it will look OK then.

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

I dunno........looks pretty good to me      if you have any small gaps you want to get rid of.....here's something easy to do.   I lightly rub white glue into the gap and wipe off the excess.   them I sand over it.......it will push sawdust into the gap and mix with the glue.   instant filler   

[Gregory]

Looks like it should finish out very nicely..  The tip from Popeye should go well also..

[zappto]

Such a beautiful ship you build, all planking looks very good! This was a pleasure boat back then i guess.

[shihawk]

lookin good  ,, if u think u have gaps to fill do them before putin on sealer , i have had problems with that before , i think it changes the color and texture of the sawdust ,though Popeye,s tip works well ,   

[flying_dutchman2]

Popeye 's tip is good. I do something similar. Collect the saw dust from the wood you are sanding. Add just enough white glue to make a paste. Mix well and then apply to the area. I use toothpicks. I also use it in areas to strengthen parts. Once dry it sands well and it is strong. I keep it handy in syringes and in different colors. 

Marcus 

[Mike Dowling]

The hull has been sanded and sealed. It still needs sanding again before final finishing. I have marked the waterline and am very surprised to see just how much of the boat would have been in the water.

 

I have also cut the tops off all the frames. I am very glad I was careful with the glue when I did the bulwarks. I just used the frames as a guide and avoided gluing them.They would have been a nightmare to get off otherwise. They were then smoothed flat level with the deck. The inside of the bulwarks then had to be covered with loads of little vertical strips before planking to give extra thickness. I have planked the lower deck and bulwark sides and I have what I think is called the poop deck to plank.

 

 

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

bet it feels great to see you've reached a milestone     looking good !

[Mike Dowling]

The toprails on the bulwarks had to be made with 2x1mm strip laminated 4 wide and then on the outside edges 1mm square of walnut and 1mm square of boxwood all of which had to be bent to fit the bow and stern !! Is it surprising that I was about 5mm short on the front rails !! I think my patch up job is OK. 

I have now planked what I think is the poop deck, put on the waterways (more bending), the bulwark rails and the two rear boxwood strips and added the steps. I finished covering the stern and the bow piece. Nearly all the bending done thank goodness except for the ram edges which are drying as I type !!

 

 

[Gregory]

Really looking nice..

[Mike Dowling]

Thank you very much Gregory.

[popeye the sailor]

looks like smooth sailing from here!   you did a wonderful job on the hull {and you thought you couldn't do right by her}   the deck area looks very clean and neatly done    I'm still very curious about the stern area........I figured that the port and starboard should have run up the bulkheads,  to form the transom.  I'm sure you'll show me in good time   

[Gregory]

popeye,

Not sure what you are alluding to, or how familiar you are with the Mary,

but the stern/transom gets very busy with trim and ornamentation,

as seen here:

 

Correct me if I am missing something with regard to what you are refering to.

Edited February 22, 2018 by Gregory

[popeye the sailor]

there has to be a build up to the top of the transom,  unless that segment of the transom is mostly windows along the sides.  are there windows between the ornamentation?

[Mike Dowling]

I don't know what he's on about either Gregory but, while you are here so to speak - did you have to cut part of the rear decoration out to allow for the rudder ?

[Mike Dowling]

Actually Popeye I have just worked out your query. Yes there are windows in the sides that make up the transom. It's all going to be very frilly !!

[popeye the sailor]

yea...I'm not real familiar with the vessel.   I was referring to along the sides and the fact that you haven't planked to the top of the transom.   now I can see why   

[Gregory]

popeye,

If you look at the pictures  of a museum model back on page three, you can see how it's finished.

 

Mike, I will PM you about the stern decoration and the rudder.

The last picture I posted was from the site I linked to earlier.

 

http://modelshipbuilder.la.coocan.jp/yacht-m2.htm

Edited February 23, 2018 by Gregory

[Mike Dowling]

I have painted my bottom white !!! It was quite brave of me actually because I rather liked the wood but, in view of the fact that the boat is going to have so much decoration I decided to stick with the real colour scheme.

 

I have done a bit of decorating. I had to put the pieces on the bow stem or ram in order to get the surrounding wood in the right place and thickness.

I have also made the main deck cabin. I hated the nasty windows provided. They were just printed outlines on thin blue plastic so I decided to make my own with some left over net and stuff called 'kristal klear' which is a glue really but dries transparent. I'm afraid my pictures don't show the result very well at the moment but they should look ok when in position and light shines through them.

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

nice work Mike.......I agree,  they should look very good when in place   

[Mike Dowling]

Here is the hull to date. Three coats of white paint sanded in between each and another coat of dope for the wood. The deck has just had one coat so far. Any more will stop all the additional stuff sticking.

 

Oh by the way, I painted the insides of the holes and the frames at the stern black so that they will look hollow when the rest goes on.

 

So now for the bling !!!