spider999 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share #31 Posted July 8, 2019 I'm gonna stick to the plans on one side, little green tiles and black/yellow paint scheme but on the other side I am just gonna run the planks down past the waterline to the keel, and give the timbers a waxed oiled finished to bring out the natural beauty of the wood, no black/yellow paint!!. best of both worlds.. diablo0007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo0007 Posted March 27, 2020 Share #32 Posted March 27, 2020 i was thinking like you do now but when i paint one side i decide to paint the other enjoy planking the green plates i believe it will end up just great Quote Completed Model: La Toulounaise Current Build: HMS Victory, Mamoli kit, 1/90 On the Shelf: Corel HMS Victory Cross section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share #33 Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) As the airport I work at is now only open 18 hrs a day instead of 24, only for cargo flights and childrens air ambulance flights/police air we have changed our shift to 1x 18 hr shift on, 2 days off. so in the downtimes at work I have done a bit more of my boat here is the latest: Edited April 14, 2020 by spider999 etubino, GrandpaPhil and gieb8688 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share #34 Posted May 17, 2020 Done a bit more, got one side done down to the break in the pattern, it shows 4 rows coming to a point at the waterline at the bow, so I just drew that line, it shows a further 8 rows amidships, approx, then tapering back towards the stern. see pics, dont worry too much about the brick pattern, I am covering it all with the copper tape, so will get the vertical joins right then. GrandpaPhil, gieb8688, etubino and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share #35 Posted June 16, 2020 Update time. I have managed to finish both upper sets of planks (port and starboard), sanded them to remove any imperfections, and worked out the layout of the lower set of tiles, working up from the keel. According to the book I am following there are 10 rows of tiles up from the keel, then at the stern there is a stealer, followed by 3 more rows, then 2 stealers, finally 6 rows brings you up to the upper band of planks. At least that's how I read it. enjoy: gieb8688, GrandpaPhil and Bob Fraser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted June 17, 2020 Share #36 Posted June 17, 2020 I’ve just stumbled upon this masterpiece; a very nice ship you have created. I’m now working the coppering with those cranky green strips and will be looking at your log for the secondary planking, among other things, once I get there. I like that you have shown step-by-step along the way with plenty of details. Very nicely done! Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share #37 Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 5:30 AM, Rob S said: I’ve just stumbled upon this masterpiece; a very nice ship you have created. I’m now working the coppering with those cranky green strips and will be looking at your log for the secondary planking, among other things, once I get there. I like that you have shown step-by-step along the way with plenty of details. Very nicely done! On 6/17/2020 at 5:30 AM, Rob S said: I’ve just stumbled upon this masterpiece; a very nice ship you have created. I’m now working the coppering with those cranky green strips and will be looking at your log for the secondary planking, among other things, once I get there. I like that you have shown step-by-step along the way with plenty of details. Very nicely done! Rob, I dont know if this is of any use to you mate, but here are the 2 pages from the book I have showing the details of the copper tiles, I have clearly marked where the break in the pattern lies, as well as the position of stealers etc. I found it very very helpful. Hopefully you can make use of it. Regards spider gieb8688 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share #38 Posted June 18, 2020 As you can see from the photos on my build, I started with the 4 rows at the waterline at the bow, , then went to amidships and put 12 rows (held on with masking tape) in place, drew a mark on the planks, then same at the stern. joined the dots so to speak and glued on the first 4 rows. After that I just filled in above them up to the waterline. did both sides, then started down at the keel working up parallel to it until I got up to the first set., just got to cut and fit the shaped ones now. ccoyle, etubino, gieb8688 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J T Lombard Posted June 18, 2020 Share #39 Posted June 18, 2020 Hello: Which book are you using for your tile layout? regards J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted June 19, 2020 Share #40 Posted June 19, 2020 Spider - Rob S here. Thank you for the information you provided! I had previously reviewed your log and found your reference material most interesting. However, to this point I'm following the Mamoli instructions for the coppering and pattern detailed with their scale drawing that has the initial pattern down 13 rows, starting from mid-ships and working down, upon which the next pattern starts. I do like how your Vic is turning out; copper sheathing very nicely done, especially with the way you have washed out the green coloring. Appreciate the review, information and feedback. Keep up the good work! I'm enjoying the journey:) spider999 1 Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted June 19, 2020 Share #41 Posted June 19, 2020 Also noting that the green tiles provided in the kit are not all the same dimensions... some longer than others as well as wider. Not sure if Mamoli meant to do it this way to assist in the build or just poor quality control. Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 19, 2020 Share #42 Posted June 19, 2020 Interesting -- I have often heard the green wooden tiles spoken of, but haven't ever seen them being used. It will be interesting to see how the finished task looks. Cheers! Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #43 Posted June 19, 2020 Gentlemen/Ladies, I am pleased to announce that I have finished..... The bloody green tiles. They went a lot easier than I thought they were going to. That set of plans certainly helped. I have a question , having seen a few of you go through this stage, and not wanting to mess it all up now I have gotten this far: Do I A: just stick the copper tape straight onto the sanded down green tiles or B: as I saw on YT's build, he sealed the tiles with acrylic matt varnish. What is the benefit of actually sealing them first? Advice please.. here are a few new pics showing my milestone achievement!!! (big smiley face emoji..) ccoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #44 Posted June 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Rob S said: Also noting that the green tiles provided in the kit are not all the same dimensions... some longer than others as well as wider. Not sure if Mamoli meant to do it this way to assist in the build or just poor quality control. Hi Rob, thanks for your feedback mate, always good to hear that I am going in the right direction.. The tiles appear washed out only cos I sanded them down to leave a nice smooth surface to stick the copper foil tape onto. I was originally going to put the green tiles on one side and paint the black/yellow on that side only , then on the other side I was going to carry the planking from above the waterline all the way down to the keel, and give all the planks on that side an oiled waxy finish, best of both worlds , but then I saw YT do the copper foil tape on his build and had a rethink. I decided to put all the green tiles on both sides, but to then cover them with the foil tape. That way I can use the tiles as a reference for the vertical joins when I indent all the little rivet lines... (really looking forward to that little adventure..) I am glad that stage is finished because I was getting a bit fed up with the tiles being different sizes etc. Oh well, character building I suppose. Nobody said theis boatbuilding lark was gonna be easy.. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #45 Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 4:52 PM, J T Lombard said: Hello: Which book are you using for your tile layout? regards J Hi J, answered you on the other forum, but for the benefit of anyone who isn't on there : It's HMS "Victory": Her Construction, Career and Restoration by Alan McGowan but I have loads of books about her, The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships by C. Nepean Longridge Haynes owners manual by Peter Goodwin Rigging Period Ships Models: A Step-by-step Guide to the Intricacies of Square-rig by Lennarth Petersson THE MASTING & RIGGING ENGLISH SHIPS OF WAR (Conway's History of Sail) by James Lees The Art of Rigging by George Biddlecombe I was just flicking through the first one and came across the layout plans for the copper plates and thought it would be very helpful as that was the stage I was approaching. To be honest, I haven't really looked through the others yet as I only got the books to help with the correct layout of the rigging.. I can tie knots, I am a former Able Seaman in the British Merchant Navy, I just want to know which line goes where!! I forgot to say, I also just got hold of a mint copy of The 100-Gun Ship Victory, Revised Edition (Anatomy of the Ship) by John McKay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #46 Posted June 19, 2020 7 hours ago, ccoyle said: Interesting -- I have often heard the green wooden tiles spoken of, but haven't ever seen them being used. It will be interesting to see how the finished task looks. Cheers! Hi there, They do look ok, shame I'm gonna cover them in copper foil tape... I like the shiny authentic look so many other people have on their build logs. I just used the tiles to give me the reference for the vertical joins when I do the rivet lines. (it's a scale thing) ccoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 19, 2020 Share #47 Posted June 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, spider999 said: They do look ok, shame I'm gonna cover them in copper foil tape... Ah, I see. I've seen a lot of unflattering comments about the wooden tiles, but I don't think that they would look all that bad if given an appropriate finish. Gotta hand it to you for perseverance, though, doing both the tiles and tape -- whew! spider999 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 20, 2020 Share #48 Posted June 20, 2020 Looking good Spider. I’m only just catching up with your progress. I used the little green tiles on my Victory and then painted them over with copper paint and then lightly sanded the copper paint to allow some of the green to show through, then sealed all with a clear finish. I think it came out okay. You are certainly taking it to the next level by applying copper tape over the top of the tiles. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted June 20, 2020 Share #49 Posted June 20, 2020 Spider - Love the way your tiles turned out - very well done! The finished work impresses; now I’ve got a standard to shoot for! Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share #50 Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, ccoyle said: Ah, I see. I've seen a lot of unflattering comments about the wooden tiles, but I don't think that they would look all that bad if given an appropriate finish. Gotta hand it to you for perseverance, though, doing both the tiles and tape -- whew! Hi mate, thank you for your comment. I took my inspiration from YT, he did pretty much the same, ties then covered them with the foil tape. His looks a lot better than my effort. But then again a jeweller does have a very good attention to detail, bless him. regards Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share #51 Posted June 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Rob S said: Spider - Love the way your tiles turned out - very well done! The finished work impresses; now I’ve got a standard to shoot for! Rob, dont thank me, thank YT, he is the one I am looking to for inspiration. But you're welcome my friend. Was just gonna go down to my boatshed to see what the next challenge is on the instruction sheet!!, either end is gonna be daunting.. Cant wait to get started on the rigging.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share #52 Posted June 20, 2020 Oh Deep Joy, just what I was looking forward to next, the stern galleries... YT's build log here I come!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider999 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #53 Posted July 2, 2020 started work on the stern and side stern galleries, not sure whether to do the foil tape on the hull first or do the windows, mmm choices choices.. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo0007 Posted January 2, 2021 Share #54 Posted January 2, 2021 Hello spider999 Merry Christmas and happy new year hope this year be better than all the pasts years :) your build looks very nice i love planking, hope you did the cooper plats , i didn't use the cooper strip as every body did because in my country there is no modelling stores so i made a cooper plates same size and thickness of the green plates coming with the kit " by the way really it was bad idea because of the hardness to deal with that size of cooper " but at the end it looks nice . i'm happy because we are almost on the same stage and this will motivate us to work constantly i believe. hope you and your loved ones safe Quote Completed Model: La Toulounaise Current Build: HMS Victory, Mamoli kit, 1/90 On the Shelf: Corel HMS Victory Cross section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Morrison Posted June 23, 2021 Share #55 Posted June 23, 2021 On 7/8/2019 at 6:15 PM, spider999 said: Cheers Bill, glad you like it. It isn't as crisp and neat at YT's build but rather has the aged patina of a battered old sailing ship, bit like me!!! spider, I started this same kit recently, and I am using your thread so far as examples. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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