Charles W Morgan by Papa - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1/64th scale

[Papa]

The paneled doors are not the same style as the plans, but were the only thing I could get as an S-scale model railroad item. They will be almost impossible to see once the roof goes on anyway. 

[John Ruy]

They look great, too bad they will be under the roofing. Kind of like that great helm you built. But then we don’t do this for others to see, as much as to know ourselves it looks good. They look good. 👍
 

 

[Papa]

Thanks, John 

[Papa]

Finally got the hurricane house under roof. Wife and I were in the woods (roughing it in an AC cabin, with full kitchen, 2 bed rooms, and a bath, on beautiful Smith Mountain Lake in Virginia, but alas No Modleing😬) so not much got done on CWM for a bit. But I am am finally back at it.

we did manage to finish several bottles of wine 😇

[Voyageur]

Welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

nice job on the roof. Seems a shame to cover up all that nice work beneath it.!

[Papa]

It is a shame, but enough is visible that one has to do all the detail.  A lot of plastic aircraft kits are like that. Detailed interiors that one never sees   

[Papa]

making slow progress.

[Papa]

Does anyone know why this structure is called a "hurricane house"?

[John Ruy]

Ron,

 

It appears that the roof between the two deck houses covering the steering wheel provided shelter for the helmsmen. I believe this was a unique feature of the whaling bark. Although that also juju included shade from the tropical South Pacific sun, I am sure it sheltered the helmsman from the rough storms including hurricanes. 
 

My thoughts based on what I have read on the Whaling Industry. 

 

http://www.girlonawhaleship.org/jernapp/refCard.do?shortName=bark

 

 The two cabins were connected overhead to provide shelter for the helmsmen at the steering wheel, in the "hurricane house." 

[John Ruy]

Another interesting read on whaling. From the New Bedford Whaling Museum.    
 

https://www.whalingmuseum.org/learn/research-topics/overview-of-north-american-whaling/life-aboard

[Papa]

I have read several books on whaling in the past, including Moby Dick, about 3times

[Papa]

I decided to step the masts to test the angle of the shrouds before getting back to the various roofs. Just a tad more sanding on the mizzenmast to get the square section to the required dimensions. 

[Papa]

The mizzenmast is progressing 

[Papa]

In between selling our current house and buying a new smaller place, not much is happening in the shipyard. And I expect that progress will be very slow over the next few months.  I’m afraid I may have to sell off some of my stash because of lack of room in our new home.  😬.  Anyway, I did manage to get the mizzenmast in place.

[Papa]

The shipyard is finally open for business again, albeit on the kitchen table.  I have some workspace in the garage, but it is like an oven in there this summer.  Anyway, i got the vegetable bin constructed and am starting on the shelter/boat bearer. 

[John Ruy]

Ron, It’s good the see you back at it again. Glad your a settled and able to start work on the CWM. She is a beautiful ship to build. 
 

Welcome back, I look forward to watching your progress. 
 

John

 

[Papa]

13 hours ago, John Ruy said:

Ron, It’s good the see you back at it again. Glad your a settled and able to start work on the CWM. She is a beautiful ship to build. 
 

Welcome back, I look forward to watching your progress. 
 

John

 

Thanks.  I missed working on the ship.  

[Landlubber Mike]

Making great progress there.  Looks fantastic!

 

Did you apply the lettering to the side of the hull and the stern?  If not, I'm currently working with a guy who is making me custom decals.  He just sent me proofs that I need to check against my hull, but they look great on the sheet.  I can pass his contact info along if you think you might be interested.

[Papa]

35 minutes ago, Landlubber Mike said:

Making great progress there.  Looks fantastic!

 

Did you apply the lettering to the side of the hull and the stern?  If not, I'm currently working with a guy who is making me custom decals.  He just sent me proofs that I need to check against my hull, but they look great on the sheet.  I can pass his contact info along if you think you might be interested.

I haven’t done any lettering yet. Would like contact info. Thanks  😊 

[Eurus]

1 hour ago, Landlubber Mike said:

Making great progress there.  Looks fantastic!

 

Did you apply the lettering to the side of the hull and the stern?  If not, I'm currently working with a guy who is making me custom decals.  He just sent me proofs that I need to check against my hull, but they look great on the sheet.  I can pass his contact info along if you think you might be interested.

 

Custom decals! I would be very much interested in that.

 

[Papa]

I have the supports for the shelter/boat bearer in place.  Next I need to make the harpoon racks and bucket hangers before roofing it in.   The knee braces were a devil to make.  I kept trying to assemble from a single piece of wood, but I no sooner just about have the correct shape and they’d split 😖 I finally made them with 2 pieces of strip wood and sanded to the shape in place. 

Edited August 4, 2021 by Papa

[Papa]

I was thinking about hanging a few harpoons on the racks in the shelter, but i can't seem to find any harpoon dimensions by asking Google

Can someone provide that info to me, say from the MS Whaleboat kit.

[Eurus]

43 minutes ago, Papa said:

I was thinking about hanging a few harpoons on the racks in the shelter, but i can't seem to find any harpoon dimensions by asking Google

Can someone provide that info to me, say from the MS Whaleboat kit.

 

Traditional harpoon dimensions can vary wildly, depending on where and who made them. In general, I can suggest a length of 80-100 cm for the iron and 120-140 cm for the wooden shaft, for a total length of 200-220 cm--since the wooden shaft locks partly inside the hollow section of the iron, some total length reduction can be expected.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Eurus

[Papa]

15 hours ago, Eurus said:

 

Traditional harpoon dimensions can vary wildly, depending on where and who made them. In general, I can suggest a length of 80-100 cm for the iron and 120-140 cm for the wooden shaft, for a total length of 200-220 cm--since the wooden shaft locks partly inside the hollow section of the iron, some total length reduction can be expected.

Thanks.  Any suggestions for the diameter?  I am thinking maybe 3 to 4 cm?  Hmmmm at 1/64 scale this might not be a good idea.  A 1mm dowel will scale up to around 2.5 inches. Seems a bit fat, but they were stabbing 🐳 

[John Ruy]

19 minutes ago, Papa said:

A 1mm dowel will scale up to around 2.5 inches. Seems a bit fat, but they were stabbing 🐳 

Ron, Here is a photo of a harpoon In my Whaleboat on my CWM. This may give you some perspective? 

 

The Harpoon shafts were a bit larger than an oar. 
 

 

My CWM was a bit smaller scale, this photo may be helpful as well. 
 

 

Your Morgan is looking great. 👍

 

[Eurus]

5 hours ago, Papa said:

Thanks.  Any suggestions for the diameter?  I am thinking maybe 3 to 4 cm?  Hmmmm at 1/64 scale this might not be a good idea.  A 1mm dowel will scale up to around 2.5 inches. Seems a bit fat, but they were stabbing 🐳 

 

The diameter might be perhaps 1-1.5 inches, I agree, 2.5 seems too fat, especially considering that it is not like a bullet (the impact and penetration made to kill) but rather, the harpoon is a means of fastening the whale to the boat, preventing its escape. The whale is killed by a stab with a lance, a much longer device designed to penetrate and come out easily--as opposed to the harpoon, which is made to stick thanks to the flues.

 

The killing blow is delivered by the boatheader with said lance, and usually aiming at the heart or the lungs. Harpoons won't penetrate as deep.

 

For reference, look at these:

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/65159530_antique-single-fluke-harpoon

 

Perhaps a pin or a common embroidery needle might do the trick at that scale.

 

Edit: the wonderful picture that John Ruy found shows the harpooneer holding a lance, not a harpoon. Lances are typically longer, and are not meant to detach from their wooden shafts. Harpoons are expendable, lances are prized possessions.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Eurus

[John Ruy]

 

 

Here is a pic of a harpoon. They were typically made of tree branches to be expendable. Larger than a lance pole. 
 

cheers 🍻 

[Papa]

On 8/4/2021 at 4:47 PM, Eurus said:

 

Traditional harpoon dimensions can vary wildly, depending on where and who made them. In general, I can suggest a length of 80-100 cm for the iron and 120-140 cm for the wooden shaft, for a total length of 200-220 cm--since the wooden shaft locks partly inside the hollow section of the iron, some total length reduction can be expected.

Thanks.  Any suggestions for the diameter?  I am thinking maybe

[Papa]

I found some dimensions in several museum sites.  One had a harpoon that was 94” long overall. From that i estimated some other dimensions  and am putting a few together. John Ruy’s pictures suggest some modifications to what i am doing.  Once i am happy with the look i will post pictures. Thanks to everyone for the advice

[Papa]

First try at harpoons