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A brief background story.....

Recently, while attending a competition in South Carolina, (entering three of my ships).  For those not familiar with IPMS clubs, the members are passionate plastic kit modelers.... cars, planes, military tanks and artillery, and lots of Star Wars stuff.  My ships seemed to be a real treat for them.  Long story short.... I had to promise to build a car to enter in next year's event.

 

Since I am a pure scratch builder / wood artist.... I agreed to do a car for them without a clue as to what I would choose.

 

During the three hour drive home, a plan was formed.  I couldn't wait to get back to my shop.

After HS graduation in 1961, taking my first full time job, I bought my first set of "wheels".... a "ragged out" 1951 Jaguar XK 120 roadster.
The car was shipped from Europe to the US by a soldier stationed at Ft. Bragg.  The aluminum body was in good shape but the paint job was dull and badly faded.  Upholstery was warn and sun cracked.  Worst of all, most of the engine parts were in the trunk.
With help from my uncle, we worked every night and full weekends for almost a year.  New paint, upholstery, and complete engine and tranny tear down.  Upon completion, it was absolutely mint!

So here we go.... Flat-top hair cut, peg legged pants, turned up collar, white tee shirt with cigs rolled up in the sleeve, penny loafers with no socks.... get the picture?

Here's a photo taken from the internet..... identical to the one I restored.

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Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted (edited)

Being such a classic sports car, the internet is loaded with plenty of photos and research information to help me create the model.
I found this perfect scale drawing showing all four profiles needed to carve the shape in detail.

This is an absolute gold mine....
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Edited by SawdustDave

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Using the scale drawing above, along with dozens of photos,  I began with a block of choice popler ( 7" X 2.5") and roughed out the profile .... 
Sketching out the features to be added.......

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Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Today's progress....
Several coats of primer was applied in order to examine the flaws and shapes I needed to refine.
I discovered that the shape of the hood was a little too flat.... needed to have more radius in the center.
Using automotive BONDO, I have built up the hood and sanded it back to a more accurate shape.
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Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Many major decisions to make.....
The more I study the dynamics of this project, the more I realize the shaping of the body may be the easiest task of all.
Depending on how far I dare attempt to take the modeling.....
Filling the cockpit area with seats, steering wheel, floor boards, center console, dash board, instrumentation, gear shift, door panels, etc. will be much more challenging than the simple shaping of the body. 

 

BIG decisions not yet resolved in my mind.....
Do I dare attempt to model the engine compartment?
I found plenty of great photos of that area, and it would be fun to go there..... but.... that means I will have to hollow out the engine compartment area from the grill back to the fire wall.  AND..... remove the hood and hinge it in order to show underneath.  THAT is the part that makes me GULP!
Then, there's the same question regarding the doors...... open with hinges or not.
From a practical standpoint, I'm not sure those three components can be surgically removed with precision that allows them to perfectly fit when closed.   Hmmmmm
So, if I decide to take it that far, it will likely mean making the doors and hood separately.

Might have to have a few cold beverages to decide those issues.

Cheers

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

WOW!

If only I had the machine equipment and skills to go there Jim.
As we mortals well know, there are modelers in this world who live in a much different world, far beyond the limitations of normal minds.  Clearly Ken Foran is in that amazing class.
I, on the other hand.....
Just an old woodworker who took up modeling with wood as a form of art..... kinda like old people who take up painting numbered pictures with water colors in their retirement.

While I have now made the decision to attempt creating this Jag model with open hood and doors, these photos are very inspiring in terms of developing a reasonable (kinda looks like) model.

Thanks for your visit and comments.

 

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Still developing a plan to work from.....
Creating the engine compartment means removing everything that will be needed to support her motor and wheels, etc.
Using the scale drawing, I've sketched out the chassis and cockpit modules.
The diagonal lines in the cockpit area indicate a solid floorboard area. 

Having fun playing around with the cockpit module this morning.
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Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Hi Dave

Are you sure you are not from California? This was the car the defeated me as a teen. One of my best friend's, (Named Steve) owned it and as a reward for helping him work on it he let me try and drive it a few times. I stress the word TRY! I could never get the knack of double clutching when down shifting the non-syncro transmission! The grinding almost every time was pure agony! Did OK going up the gears but almost always came to an almost stop before I could go down. Ended up getting an MGTD to restore for myself. It treated me much better but was a daily repair job to keep it running in top form and the wiring was a NIGHTMARE. :huh: Fond memories of days long gone.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Thanks for sharing that experience Lou.  What year was your experience?  I assure you, I never took my Jag cross country.
The double clutching down shifting does bring back memories, for sure.  I recall that I actually got pretty good at it.

Working on a number of areas in the early development.  Mostly in the cockpit area....
Here's the photo I'm working from....
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The jury still out on the colors.  My interior was red and the body was painted a baby blue.
 

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted (edited)

Most of the last few days playing around with the cockpit module and removing the hood.
Here's the floorboard mount that I will be placing the seats and console onto.
The seats, painted red, are actually covered with a thin layer of felt left over from my custom poker table business.
I have a ton of experience in upholstery, but never anything anywhere near this scale.
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Edited by SawdustDave

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

PROGRESS REPORT....

A real mixed bag of good and very bad progress this morning.
First, the good along with the bad.
Seen here, I was able to remove the hood with minimal damage.  Primarily because most of the precision removal was with the grain of the wood.  the wide cut across the end and also down around the grill got a little dicey because I was cutting across the grain.
Realizing the difficulty of making the cutouts across the grain has me a little sceptical about attempting to remove the doors.

 

Also note in the upper pic, that I have sanded and sprayed the base coat of powder blue enamel to the body.

The lower inset pic is the disaster that occurred this morning as I attempted to apply the second coat to the drivers side.  After allowing 48 hours for drying and curing, I placed the body with the drivers side facing up in order to get a nice even coat.  To my horror, the entire side instantly wrinkled like a waded up piece of paper!  Thankfully it only involved the drivers side.
 
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So.... after re-sanding and scraping the drivers side back to the wood, I will likely have to wait several days for complete curing before the next stage of painting the body.
I guess I could speed up the process if I had a little toaster oven, but I don't.

 

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

Then there's the seats.....
I rely heavily on photos to tell me what is good or not.  The camera very seldom lies.... right?

 

So I decided, after studying the photos of the upholstered seats, that I seriously did not like what I was seeing.
The painted red fabric was terrible.... the seat backs were much too thick.... and more.

Most of the last couple of days was spent on developing a set of seats I could live with.

Here's what I came up with....
I will likely use a wipe on poly to give them a slight sheen.

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Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted
On 11/2/2018 at 7:49 AM, SawdustDave said:

What year was your experience? 

Probably about 1967-68. That was before I had to give up on cars, girls and anything else fun and go on a whirl wind foreign tour with Uncle. Things were not quite the same when I got back. Had to sell the MG while I was overseas and was busy raising kids and other things that took precedence when I got out.

 

Steve's wheel was on the left at least. The only right hand wheel I ever drove was a Austin Mini Cooper that went so fast it almost scared me. Another friend of mine raced it in local SCCA competitions. Did OK with it too. I finally got to buy my own Mini forty something years later but even though it is fun to drive its nothing like any of those cars back then.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

As regrets go had a 1967 Austin Healy Mark III, loved the car being a kid needed money had to sell, my love was a 1967 GTO convertible his and her shifter, that was a neck snapper, that one snagged me the boss (OOH what a nice car can I go for a ride) then a marriage to the boss cost me that one but that is what memories are made for. The goat was cherry the guy I sold it to still has it.  I paid $ 2,300.00 for it, now they go for around 46,000 to 80,000 depending.

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

Posted

Dave,

 

Looking forward to the end result looks like a keeper

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

Posted

The 67 Goat was a classic John.  My best friend drove one exactly like this one I picked from the internet.  We did some great cruising back and forth to college in those days.
Like you, he still regrets the day he sold it for pennies on the current value.
Same goes for me and my Jag.GTO.jpg.05a74b0324bb3628070dfb78d7abc63a.jpg 

 

 

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, SawdustDave said:

pennies on the current value.

I think we are all guilty of that. It appears that John was guilty twice! His AH could probably bring in another $50-100 K on today's market.

 

Hey John

Do you remind the better half now and then how much potential money she cost you! (Probably not a good idea I suppose).

 

Dave

Are you going to cover the seats with thin leather like covering or just paint them the right color? They do look much more authentic that the first set. 

Edited by lmagna

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Dave, look around for some corduroy.  I've seen some with very fine wales that might help with the seats.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

Experimenting with some silk fabric Mark.... more better, but still doesn't look too promising.
As for color, the tan color seen in the cockpit photo depicts the original interior as I purchased her.
The red leather I used to refurbish.... never really cared for that much. 

Working on covering floor board area and center housing before going to door panels.
However it turns out, this really is a fun project.  Having a blast!

Dave

Edited by SawdustDave

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

It looks like you would be having a blast with this from not only the challenges but the memories.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

Dave

In addition to Marks suggestion you might look into thin vinyl. It comes in thin sheets that can be heated and pressed into place. There is also tis stuff you might like to try.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Heat+Transfer+Vinyl+for+T-Shirts&_sacat=0

 

Edited by lmagna

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Interesting suggestion Lou.  The issue I'm running into, even with the very thin silk material, is getting the individual rolls to adhere from roll to roll.  Using watered down CA which tends to wick through the fabric and create a blotchy effect.
The carved seats are, in fact, vinyl strips taken from feu wood venetian blinds (been using the stuff for carvings for several years).

Dave 

Sawdust Dave -

Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com

Posted

I don't have a direct link but there are a number of self adhesive vinyl "Decal" sheets used in the automotive and other industries that not only have a strong adhesive quality but can be used with added heat to conform to odd surfaces. You might try looking at Vinyl laptop coverings. They also have a rather strong adhesive and respond to heat when placing over less than smooth surfaces. Might be a little hard to find the exact color you are looking for but I have seen almost everything from rust to shiny gold, I have even seen wood patterns. 

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

All suggestions sound promising.

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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