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NIc... .I found a painting,  (Print) of the Red Jacket at a local consignment store.  However, its depiction didn't show Chief Red Jacket as the figurehead, and it only flew a royal on all masts with no *Upper topsail*….just the main course, topsail, topgallant, and royal.  Only four sails per mast.  Question:  Did the Red Jacket ever get refitted with Howes rig and fixed with a *Lower topsail* during her history?  Was she ever *Originally* fitted out with only 4 sails per mast?  

 

Rob(Or is the artist simply in error?)

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

Nice....

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I was hoping to find some progress this morning....but I know full well these *Lady's* can't be rushed and I know excruciatingly well about time availability.  I myself am only hours of work away from completing my own GR build, but *things* always come up...I have to install a privacy fence this weekend...so there goes my *hours* of dedication to my own build......

 

Love your work and am looking forward to your next post.

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

Thanks Rob,

 

I've had a sinus infection that had me down for several days. 3 other people at BlueJacket are sick (none Corona-V). All the lower lifts are done, and I'm working on the top yards.

Posted
On 3/3/2020 at 1:47 PM, rwiederrich said:

NIc... .I found a painting,  (Print) of the Red Jacket at a local consignment store.  However, its depiction didn't show Chief Red Jacket as the figurehead, and it only flew a royal on all masts with no *Upper topsail*….just the main course, topsail, topgallant, and royal.  Only four sails per mast.  Question:  Did the Red Jacket ever get refitted with Howes rig and fixed with a *Lower topsail* during her history?  Was she ever *Originally* fitted out with only 4 sails per mast?  

Rob(Or is the artist simply in error?)

 

We carry a book of the Red Jacket that is pretty comprehensive. Paintings of her maiden voyage show both 4 sails and 5 sails on the masts. Here are some shots from the book:

 

Book cover

IMG_3379.thumb.jpg.bd15b56ecdb2ac6c829e8869803fe442.jpg

 

Sail plan:

IMG_3377.thumb.jpg.de1dce0919fe00466b890dca3eb1891f.jpg

 

Dimensions of masts and yards:

IMG_3380.thumb.jpg.855d1aef9a213875f1b4e7860ff86c58.jpg

 

Oil painting sailing into Liverpool maiden voyage:

IMG_3382.thumb.jpg.490ccad5b12e4d71934754aa4bfed044.jpg

 

 

Posted

The painting I saw is very similar to the first image of the book cover.....

Like most early clippers they didn't have lower topsails or skysails....not until the mid 50's did many get overhauled.

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

I use split topsails to tell me if she was built in the 1860s and later or before that. She looks to have single topsails and topgallants in all those images. It's just the addition of the skysails over the royals that are in question. Could easily have been added at any time. A new Royal/Skysail pole and she'd easily be retrofitted with it at a later date. I wonder if that happened or was she launched that way? 

Posted
18 hours ago, Sailor1234567890 said:

I use split topsails to tell me if she was built in the 1860s and later or before that. She looks to have single topsails and topgallants in all those images. It's just the addition of the skysails over the royals that are in question. Could easily have been added at any time. A new Royal/Skysail pole and she'd easily be retrofitted with it at a later date. I wonder if that happened or was she launched that way? 

 

Indeed, skysails and their masts were the easiest additions...adding Howes and Forbes rig to the lower topsails(Newly added sail), would have been a bit more work, but what made sail work easier for the crew.

Double topgallants came along even later.

 

If practice was equal across the board....the  Red Jacket probably was originally fitted out with mains, topsails, topgallant and royals.   It was the clipper hull that made the most impact in the new design.....the rig followed along after.

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

Wonderful work...love it.

 

I finished the Great Republic.

 

Keep up the good work.  I'll be working on the Glory of the Seas now.....

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted (edited)
On 4/2/2020 at 9:38 AM, MrBlueJacket said:

So here's the main top yard installed

IMG_3411.thumb.jpg.771125d4f610d2fd747156c3672e08ff.jpg

 

And a close-up of the twin chain halyards that hold it up.

IMG_3412.thumb.jpg.93804a2b4b0e43084a67b6905bbbf2e5.jpg

 

 

 

Wonderful work....

 

Double halyard chain lifts...interesting. 

 

Rob

Edited by rwiederrich

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

Coming along nicely......

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Been a couple of weeks and nothing new Nic...everything going well?  I suspect you either are taking a break because of the 19 or you have so much work done you will *thrill* us with a page of new images with finished yards and running rigging...….

 

Rob (thinking of you)

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

  • 2 weeks later...
  • 2 months later...
Posted

Nice....I can assume your attentions are needed elseward….Been some time since you posted any updates...how you doing?

I know the summer months can fill up with so many other things that need doing.

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted
36 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Nice....I can assume your attentions are needed elseward….Been some time since you posted any updates...how you doing?

I know the summer months can fill up with so many other things that need doing.

 

Rob

Look at post #290 for the explanation.........

  • 2 months later...
Posted

So after 4 months and 10 days, I am back to the Red Jacket. During that time, I built a Whaleboat and did 2 repairs for customers.

 

When I left off, all the lower and top yards were installed, top yards had their lifts, lower yards had their lifts, but not yet tied to belaying pins. Only the main top had halyards installed, but again not belayed. So I have a lot of aligning and tying off to do. Of course, first thing I did was to break one of the main lower lift attachments

IMG_3741.thumb.jpg.807bd4cb718434ab1064be08a517c6c7.jpg

Posted

Got the foremast topsail sheet and clew done this afternoon. Hard to see the "cloverleaf block" under the foreyard, but the chain is belayed to the pinrail, then through the cloverleaf block, the out to the sheave at the end of the yard (remember when I put those in?) and then to a single block, which receives a line from the topmast near the center, then down to the pinrail. The sheet tackle is .015, while the clew is .010. This is because the sheet carries a lot of force when he sail is deployed, but the clew only pulls up the sail itself.

 

IMG_3759.thumb.jpg.54798f61c0e30c70b54d0b2ead090a79.jpg

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