AntonyUK Posted March 17, 2019 #61 Posted March 17, 2019 Hi Jo. Painting will spoil the look of the boat ..But saying that it might be a option you might take after planking. Advice... Read the instructions and compare with the kit. Test all assembles as many times as it takes to satisfy yourself that you are doing the right thing. It's a nice ship when finished and makes a very nice display. I built a Leudo some time ago. Check my builds below. Regards Antony. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and BETAQDAVE 3 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
Ulises Victoria Posted March 18, 2019 #62 Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 8:30 AM, tkay11 said: Just in case you haven't seen it, in addition to Bindy's build and Maurino's gallery on this forum, there's a build of the Leudo on YouTube which you might find helpful at: Tony Ouch!!! Those colors!!! In my opinion, the fastest and most effective way to spoil a build is to use shiny paints or varnish. If painted, colors should be flat. When in doubt, better leave it in natural wood finish! mtaylor, popeye the sailor, tkay11 and 1 other 4 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
johnothanswift Posted March 18, 2019 #63 Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) Red is a very fast fading colour, this image of the painted model seems to be fairly accurate. But, many years of plastic modelling speaking, weathering and wear really add to a painted model. Then again, there is the widespread opinion here that going for an unpainted wood only build is the way to go. My personal opinion is that going for authenticity is the way to go, paint what was painted, with weathering if you want a used look, leave the rest as it was as used originally. I'm just pleased that my current Billings Roar Ege build can be weathered to eternity and beyond........ Edited March 18, 2019 by johnothanswift paulsutcliffe, Ulises Victoria, tasmanian and 2 others 5 Quote
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #64 Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 9:16 AM, AntonyUK said: Painting will spoil the look of the boat Hi Antony. Thank you for dropping in on my IL Leudo build. Was thinking of painting the hull only. Jo. popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #65 Posted March 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Ulises Victoria said: When in doubt, better leave it in natural wood finish! Hello Ulises I agree love wood finish, but will paint the hull. Thank you for your comment. Jo. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #66 Posted March 19, 2019 Hello shipyard workers. Well I have put my L brackets on my shiny white board. Before anyone asks me my wrist hurts screwing the screws in 😭. So when you all have stopped laughing 😄 you can tell me I have done it wrong. That thing in the middle look a bit low don't you think, I purchased the smallest L brackets I could find. Do you think I should put some blocks under it on each end. It's a start yippeeeeeeeeeeee. Jo. popeye the sailor, cog, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
Ulises Victoria Posted March 19, 2019 #67 Posted March 19, 2019 Nice start Jo! Above all remember this: it is YOUR ship. Do whatever you feel like and whatever you want with it!!! Don't try to please anyone else but YOU!!! Best wishes popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
vossiewulf Posted March 19, 2019 #68 Posted March 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, SHIPSCAT said: Do you think I should put some blocks under it on each end. It helps to have the keel up off the building board a few inches, as part of the next task is putting in the bulkheads and the bottom alignment of the bulkheads relative to the keel is one of the key things to get right. If the keel is up, it's a bit easier to see that alignment. But I'm not sure it's worth hurting your wrist to screw them all back out and back in a new position. popeye the sailor, src, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Building HM Cutter Lady Nelson 1:64
src Posted March 19, 2019 #69 Posted March 19, 2019 Nice start Jo! It doesn’t look like you have screwed the brackets to you keel, raising it up a bit shouldn’t be a problem. If you do screw your keel to the brackets make sure you have a plan to remove it before you finish planking. Sam SHIPSCAT, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #70 Posted March 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Ulises Victoria said: Nice start Jo! Above all remember this: it is YOUR ship. Do whatever you feel like and whatever you want with it!!! Don't try to please anyone else but YOU!!! Best wishes Hello Ulises Thank you, yes it is my ship but I keep changing my mind about the colours, you know what we ladies are like, and please don't you men answer that 😄. Jo. Ulises Victoria, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #71 Posted March 19, 2019 16 hours ago, vossiewulf said: It helps to have the keel up off the building board a few inches Hello vossiewulf Thank you also, yes I was thinking of putting some blocks under each side. Jo. popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 19, 2019 Author #72 Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, src said: It doesn’t look like you have screwed the brackets to you keel Hi Sam No I have not screwed the brackets to the keel thing. Going to glue the ends on today, hope to post a photo 😀. Thank you all for the likes. Jo. mtaylor, BETAQDAVE and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
cog Posted March 19, 2019 #73 Posted March 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, SHIPSCAT said: No I have not screwed the brackets to the keel thing. Then you would be ....... in trouble If you haven't read up on your planking. It might be a good idea not to tally any longer ... if you do not know the knowledge db then that is a good place to start. The link will take you straight to the docs for framing and planking. It's nice to be prepared ... Until you've reached the point of no return, you can always change your mind about the colour ... usually you are far beyond it when you find out what colour you want - just pullin' yer leg popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
SHIPSCAT Posted March 20, 2019 Author #74 Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, cog said: If you haven't read up on your planking Hello cog Thank you for the link. Jo. popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 20, 2019 Author #75 Posted March 20, 2019 Hello shipmates. Just a small up date for you all. The two end parts have been glued on. Jo. BenF89, src, BETAQDAVE and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
src Posted March 20, 2019 #76 Posted March 20, 2019 Looking good Jo. you want to make sure your keel is nice and straight. sight down it lengthwise and make sure ther isnt a bend in the two ends you just glued on. If they are not nice and flat you will find the planking process to be "interesting" Sam popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
SHIPSCAT Posted March 20, 2019 Author #77 Posted March 20, 2019 17 hours ago, src said: keel is nice and straight Hello Sam I clamped the keel on the table top, I put some thin plastic on the bottom and top so the glue did not stick to the table top and clamp. Jo. popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 20, 2019 Author #78 Posted March 20, 2019 Hi again Problem according to the plan part 16 just down from the top (see photo and the line) it should be level. My next step says to assemble the frames so they fit without gluing then put 3 strips of wood across the top of the frames to see if they are high or low. Do I do this first and see if frame 16 lines up or not, or should I file frame 16 down first. Hope you understand what I am saying. lmagna and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 21, 2019 Author #79 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Hello my friends. I have dry fitted (I think that is what you call it) the frames all but the last one, that one I will leave till I have put the wooden strips on. Sorry that frame 10 is a bit leaning over ☹️ not a lot for it to hang onto. Jo. Edited March 21, 2019 by SHIPSCAT yvesvidal, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
DORIS Posted March 21, 2019 #80 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Very good start, Jo, and do not worry, everything is possible to achieve. It is important "to want" and enjoy what we do. Keep it up. Here is an inspiration for you: https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=100656&start=30 I am glad that another woman is here and build ship models. Great!! 👍 Best regards, Doris Edited March 21, 2019 by DORIS popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, tkay11 and 5 others 8 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
johnothanswift Posted March 21, 2019 #81 Posted March 21, 2019 Well, the czech language suffers a little with google translate and please ignore the software piracy bit............ But, we can all create brilliant models, and I fully agree with Doris that gender is irrelevant when it comes to pretty much everything. FYI, I'm stealing your awesome stand idea for my next build. Thank you. 😊 Keep up the great job. mtaylor, SHIPSCAT, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote
John Allen Posted March 21, 2019 #82 Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 2:59 PM, SHIPSCAT said: Thank you, yes it is my ship but I keep changing my mind about the colours Jo, This is your build, example I personally do not like the copper plates on a new build I think its (gauche) new word for the day and I am in the minority with that opinion. All advice on this site is well meant when it comes to laying on some paint do what YOU feel is best and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling every time you look at it. Whether it be natural, historically correct, or your combination of color that may include polka dots. Viggen, BETAQDAVE, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co.
BETAQDAVE Posted March 21, 2019 #83 Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 9:48 PM, SHIPSCAT said: Well I have put my L brackets on my shiny white board. Before anyone asks me my wrist hurts screwing the screws in 😭. The next time you need to put screws in by hand, just remember to pre-drill a hole slightly smaller than the screw and coat the screw with a lubricant like wax or even bar soap. In the states we have a product called screw ease that comes in a metal tube which is specifically made for this, any hardware store would probably have a similar product. The screw can be driven with much less effort and as an added benefit the screw can more easily be removed if necessary. src, SHIPSCAT, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Dave “You’ve just got to know your limitations” Dirty Harry Current Builds: Modified MS 1/8” scale Phantom, and modified plastic/wood hybrid of Aurora 1:87 scale whaling bark Wanderer. Past Builds: (Done & sold) 1/8” scale A.J. Fisher 2 mast schooner Challenge, 1/6” scale scratch built whaler Wanderer w/ plans & fittings from A.J. Fisher, and numerous plastic kits including 1/8” scale Revell U.S.S. Constitution (twice), Cutty Sark, and Mayflower. (Done & in dry dock) Modified 1/8” scale Revell U.S.S. Constitution w/ wooden deck and masting [too close encounter w/conc. floor in move] Hope to get to builds: MS 3/16” scale Pride of Baltimore II, MS 1/2” scale pinky schooner Glad Tidings, a scratch build 3/16” scale Phantom, and a scratch build 3/16" scale Denis Sullivan.
SHIPSCAT Posted March 21, 2019 Author #84 Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, DORIS said: Very good start, Jo, and do not worry, everything is possible to achieve. It is important "to want" and enjoy what we do. Keep it up. Here is an inspiration for you: https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=100656&start=30 I am glad that another woman is here and build ship models. Great!! 👍 Best regards, Doris Hello Doris Thank you for looking in on my log and for the encouragement. Also the link. I am very excited about my build, yes I will make mistakes but it will be fun trying to fix them. I have visited your log and wow you are a master builder. I will never achieve the skill you have. Yes I agree we need more woman on the forum. Jo. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 21, 2019 Author #85 Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, John Allen said: polka dots Hello John I promise you it will never be painted with polka dots or will it 🤣. May be a nice shade of PINK 😉. Jo. mtaylor, John Allen, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SHIPSCAT Posted March 21, 2019 Author #86 Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, BETAQDAVE said: just remember to pre-drill a hole slightly smaller than the screw Hello Dave I did drill a hole but it must have been a small drill bit, but thank you for your advice. Jo. popeye the sailor, mtaylor and BETAQDAVE 3 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
src Posted March 21, 2019 #87 Posted March 21, 2019 Jo, this chart will help you determine the correct pilot drill for the screw you are using. I am assuming you are using “jobber” type bits; regular every day drill bits from the hardware store not special tapered bits. Use the column that says straight bit. You can buy tapered bits later. https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/wood-screws/Wood-Screw-Pilot-Hole-Size.aspx another way to choose a bit and I what I have done in the field is to eyeball the drill bit to the minor dimension of the screw threads. I am st work right now (shhhh don’t tell anybody) I’ll try to post you a picture of what I mean when I get home. And what the others said about soap/candle wax to lubricate you threads. Sam SHIPSCAT, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
cog Posted March 21, 2019 #88 Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, src said: Jo, this chart will help you determine the correct pilot drill for the screw you are using. I am assuming you are using “jobber” type bits; regular every day drill bits from the hardware store not special tapered bits. Use the column that says straight bit. You can buy tapered bits later. https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/wood-screws/Wood-Screw-Pilot-Hole-Size.aspx another way to choose a bit and I what I have done in the field is to eyeball the drill bit to the minor dimension of the screw threads. I am st work right now (shhhh don’t tell anybody) I’ll try to post you a picture of what I mean when I get home. And what the others said about soap/candle wax to lubricate you threads. Sam Sam, do you have any metric references ... SHIPSCAT, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Louie da fly Posted March 21, 2019 #89 Posted March 21, 2019 No worries, Carl. You can buy drill bits in both metric and imperial (inches) here in Oz. Steven popeye the sailor, mtaylor, BETAQDAVE and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
SHIPSCAT Posted March 21, 2019 Author #90 Posted March 21, 2019 Hello Cog and Sam My drill bits are Metric. Jo. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
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