hof00 Posted July 5, 2019 Share #1 Posted July 5, 2019 Hi All, Thought i'd give this another go.... I started this in 2003/4, a Hatchette Partworks thingy. So Engine and the three wings are pretty much done, I have to affix some engine components as the "Muntz," (White Metal,) doesn't take well to CA, so, Epoxy. Stumbling block, Ailerons…. Had to manufacture my own Aileron tips as the "Muntz" fell apart. (The whole thing ts large and heavy.) The kit, (If you can call it that), is comprised of Laser Cut Birch Ply and the afore mentioned "Muntz." I'm pretty sure I've got all the components/issues so we'll see how it goes.... (Got to get inspired somehow after redundancy!! 😊) I'll post some photos tomorrow day. A link if your interested.... http://www.buildafokkertriplane.co.uk/ Cheers....HOF. mtaylor, CDW, Landrotten Highlander and 4 others 7 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 5, 2019 Share #2 Posted July 5, 2019 Howdy Hof, That is a kick in the guts, yes keep thinking and trying. The plane might well be a pleasant change, something different to help get you up and going. With a bit of luck something else will come up for you. Hooroo Chris cog, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 5, 2019 Share #3 Posted July 5, 2019 don't feel bad HOF.....I've got a Guillow's Fokker in the closet, and a list of projects I really should be getting back to. I need to invest in a good pair of blinders ........ look ahead, my friend is that a site you created? Canute, Cabbie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted July 6, 2019 Thanks Chris/Dennis, Yup, something to get myself "Back in the groove." 😊 Not my site.... Someone in the UK. Cheers....HOF. Canute, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) A few photos.... 3 Wings and the Landing Gear "Winglet." And, one of my three Abyssinian cats, (Or, Stomachs on legs, Anubis), trying to be helpful. The Upper Wing Aileron Tips created from Brass Wire as the Muntz Metal broke, never mind.... I'll re-attach some of the Engine components tomorrow with Epoxy, CA proves a little fragile.... Cheers....HOF. Edited July 6, 2019 by hof00 popeye the sailor, Landrotten Highlander, CDW and 8 others 11 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 6, 2019 Share #6 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) It looks like an enjoyable build. Every now and then I think of wandering off the reservation and doing something different. I've had my eye on an old fashioned tram car for a long time. Hmmmmm. Edited July 7, 2019 by Cabbie mtaylor, cog, CDW and 3 others 6 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 6, 2019 Share #7 Posted July 6, 2019 I've never built one of these.........only Guillow's / Comet flying planes. looks like you did a really good job with the wings. the broke stuff is immaterial..........you can fix it usually for me........I'll start tinkering with some aspect of the model, then next thing you know........I'm both elbows into it. surely there is one aspect in this kit that will be your spark.........keep digging! CDW, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) Thanks Chris/Dennis, Once again!! Words of encouragement are powerful.... Thank you. 😊 So, Sanson is on hold for the mo, God knows why, I love the ships, I guess something a little different. My doctrine, (Up until a few months ago), was to concentrate on one project at a time, so, breaking with the afore mentioned....) Off to get a WOF/COF for the Admirals car tomorrow so will have a look at different Epoxies available. (Leaning towards a two part, malleable paste, like strips of chewing gum?) (Mitre 10 Mega Hardware) The broken Aileron Tips are fixed, bent Brass Wire.... Cheers....HOF. Edited July 7, 2019 by hof00 Canute, popeye the sailor, Cabbie and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 7, 2019 Share #9 Posted July 7, 2019 This is the on I want to do, as with you Harry I like the ships but this has hold of me. AArrrrggghhh one of these days, can't justify it but..... https://www.modelerscentral.com/model-kits/occre-model-kits/san-francisco-cable-car/ mtaylor, Canute, Papa and 1 other 4 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted July 7, 2019 Hi Chap, I guess go for it!! 😊 I've seen a review or two here on this site.... (Kit reviews.) I believe there's also a "Diorama" that is available also? I also understand that there is much painting!! Cheers....HOF. mtaylor, Canute, Cabbie and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 7, 2019 Share #11 Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Cabbie said: This is the on I want to do, as with you Harry I like the ships but this has hold of me. AArrrrggghhh one of these days, can't justify it but..... https://www.modelerscentral.com/model-kits/occre-model-kits/san-francisco-cable-car/ That is a nice looking model, and I think a reasonable price. To preface my next statement: we used to have a Labrador retriever who would try to look out of all the windows of our Jeep at the same time which entailed some chaotic bouncing around. Now, when I look at model kit sites and catalogs I want to “build all the kits at the same time” planes, trains and automobiles! Once a model builder always a model builder. Ron Gove Cabbie, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiachedmark Posted July 7, 2019 Share #12 Posted July 7, 2019 Gidday HOF. I have come in late. Just curious, what is the scale and finished size of the model? Wishing you all the best in your endeavours. Mark. Canute, Cabbie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 7, 2019 Share #13 Posted July 7, 2019 If I buy it as well and since its not a boat, does that I don't have to answer to an Admiral???????????? mtaylor, popeye the sailor and Canute 3 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted July 7, 2019 10 hours ago, pontiachedmark said: Gidday HOF. I have come in late. Just curious, what is the scale and finished size of the model? Wishing you all the best in your endeavours. Mark. Hi Mark, It's 1/8th scale. Unsure of the finished size but the upper wing is 84cm (33") (Its going to be a heavy beastie, the engine is about 250 grams....) Chris, Did you see the kit review for the Tram? Cheers....HOF. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, pontiachedmark and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 7, 2019 Share #15 Posted July 7, 2019 Not yet Harry too much temptation involved in that!!!!! mtaylor, Canute, hof00 and 1 other 4 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiachedmark Posted July 8, 2019 Share #16 Posted July 8, 2019 Gidday HOF. Thankyou for the information. She sure is a big girl. Wishing you all the best. Mark. Canute, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 9, 2019 Share #17 Posted July 9, 2019 a little at a time HOF..........no matter how you slice it, it's progress no Cabby.......no admiral you'd have to answer to.........you'd have a conductor instead get the darn kit.....will ya! Canute, hof00 and Cabbie 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Trying to Epoxy the Aileron Tips to the Aileron Spar. I guess I'm not patient enough, it's my fourth attempt leaving the stuff to cure for 24 hours.... (48 should do it, hopefully....) The Ailerons are proving to be a bit of a mission.... (I also missed the "Esmerelda" today, she leaves Wellington tomorrow.... Damn....) Cheers....HOF. Edited July 10, 2019 by hof00 mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 11, 2019 Share #19 Posted July 11, 2019 Esmerelda..........the three masted ship?!?!?! mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 11, 2019 Share #20 Posted July 11, 2019 14 hours ago, hof00 said: Trying to Epoxy the Aileron Tips to the Aileron Spar. I guess I'm not patient enough, it's my fourth attempt leaving the stuff to cure for 24 hours.... (48 should do it, hopefully....) The Ailerons are proving to be a bit of a mission.... Got to keep the old grey matter working Harry. Glues except pva always seem to be a problem to me, can never make super glue types stick. Do you know if there is an alternative clear glue other than 2 part epoxies or super glues? and still be clear?? Bad luck about missing the ship visit, since I am inland by the time i get to hear about a ship visiting they are gone. popeye the sailor, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 11, 2019 Share #21 Posted July 11, 2019 I get my CA from the local drug store..........the only other two I use are white glue and Testors. wish I could help mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted July 11, 2019 Hi Chris/Dennis, Ditched the Brass Spar for the Ailerons and substituted Birch Dowell of the same diameter. (So much more conducive to CA Stuff.) So, the Ailerons are built, just waiting for the "Cure." (Much improved and I don't have to wait for days....) (Upper Wing 35" with Ailerons, whatever that is Metric....) I need to get some adhesive that will "Strengthen" the joints without waiting for Christmas.... 😞 I saw something in Mitre 10 Mega. (Dennis, We don't have "Drug Stores.") (Sounds like something that Californians would go to get "Space Cakes." 😊) Yup, Missed Esmerelda, Chilean Barqueintine…. I did not realise there was a very dark past associated with a certain General Pinochet. Anyway, thanks Gentelmans…. One more glass of plonk and I'll tun in. Cheers....HOF. mtaylor, Canute and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted July 13, 2019 Hi All, Still mucking around with Ailerons, I guess that they need to be as good as they can be.... (The Cockpit Controls move the Fight surfaces, or, at least they are supposed to.... 😊) I'll take a break and affix the Engine components that came off.... (A bit of Epoxy will help.) Enjoy the Weekend!! Cheers....HOF. Canute, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 13, 2019 Share #24 Posted July 13, 2019 From master ship builder to aircraft engineer, you certainly need need to be multi skilled in this modelling world. Put up some more photos to give us a look. And enjoy the rest of the weekend yourself. Hooroo Chris mtaylor, Canute and popeye the sailor 3 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share #25 Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) Here you go Chap.... Ailerons almost complete.... The Trailing Edges are a little fragile to say the least. I've had to repair more than once. Reasonably happy with the Aileron "Tips." (Broke one of the Muntz Metal Hinges, so if I can't repair, I'll do 2 Hinges per side. Engine back together, I'll need to "Wick" some good quality CA around the components and touch up. (Engine diameter 127mm (5")) Cheers....HOF. Edited July 14, 2019 by hof00 hexnut, GrandpaPhil, Landlubber Mike and 11 others 14 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted July 14, 2019 Share #26 Posted July 14, 2019 Its going to be beast when done. How much of the engine did you assemble? You know you have to build hanger for it...... then a landing strip................................................. then a control tower. Should look very nice indeed. Cheers Chris hof00, popeye the sailor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted July 14, 2019 Share #27 Posted July 14, 2019 Nice work on the ailerons mate. Thought there would be something brewing by now. Engine turned out real spiffy, that's a big one 12.7 cm. popeye the sailor, Canute, Cabbie and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 14, 2019 Share #28 Posted July 14, 2019 The wing is coming along well. Then I saw the engine and had to do double take. Super nice work. popeye the sailor, cog, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 14, 2019 Share #29 Posted July 14, 2019 look'in good.....are you able to purchase replacement parts? for a model this large, it's worth looking into Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Hi All, Thanks for your likes/comments, much appreciated. Chris: Yup the Engine was assembled from 74 Muntz Metal components, I don't recall how many Partwork, issues, several.... The thing with the Partworks stuff is the first issue is reasonably cheap to "Pique" your interest, the other 99 issues were treble the cost.... (Good Business strategy/model!!😊) (I bought a 1/200 Bismark from the same publisher, completed the Hull and stopped after I bought the Trumpeter version out. I still have all the issues, 140 in all.... One day maybe....) Dennis: I don't believe I can source "Back Issues" for spare parts, so to speak, I purchased the original issues so long ago.... (Hence my Brass Wire Aileron tips.) I did try the publisher, Hatchette, years ago and they were not that forthcoming. I just need to be more careful/patient cleaning up parts, esp. the Muntz. 😊 The completed model will be just open framework, a little like the Hasegawa 1/8 Aircraft series which I think this was based on. Partworks did provide Plastic, (Monocoat?), Heat Shrink (Red, Of course), covering material I wont be utilising this. (I believe that Hasegawa had a fire many years ago and lost tooling moulds for their 1/8 Aircraft series. You can sometimes see these on eBay/Trademe for large sums of money.) Like the 1/16 Model Airways Aircraft, the control surfaces are supposed to operate from the Cockpit controls. (We'll see how this goes.... 😊) Trailing Edges on all of the wings, should be wire but the wooden ones are structural components, so stick with them. (Pardon the pun.😊) Anyway, have a good week. Cheers....HOF. Edited July 15, 2019 by hof00 lmagna, popeye the sailor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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