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Placing the lower sills now, I took a couple of days to keep looking at and adjusting the battens first. I might still have pushed down when marking it (the batten wasnt pinned on every frame) because a couple of the sills are not on line with the other side; I think I may have to cut them loose and try again. Overall smooth progression though!

 

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Sills are in and working on fairing them. One question- some of the top sills are higher than the bulhead ends, should I plane them down even?  I’m happy with progress so far and looking forward to the stern framing! Have test fitted them and may have more questions before gluing them in place.

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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I would leave them as is until you take some measurements from the plans to confirm what is the correct height.

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

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On 9/21/2020 at 9:04 PM, Rustyj said:

I would leave them as is until you take some measurements from the plans to confirm what is the correct height.

 I second that

 

Mike

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

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On 9/23/2020 at 6:38 PM, Stuntflyer said:

 I second that

 

Mike

Sounds good, thanks Mike and Rusty, on to the stern framing!

Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Stern framing-I thought it was going ok at this stage but a top view says otherwise.

 I think it will be hard to force the curve now, I guess my angling of the filler edges was off. Support for taking the frames out and trying again?

 

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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That should be fixed if possible.  Remove those fillers and try to reposition.  That will give you fits later on.

 

Chuck

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Ok, the sills and fillers are out without significant damage but it appears the frames themselves need adjustment. I’m surprised that the wood glue seems to pop off of the yellow cedar quite cleanly.

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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I’m feeling much happier now!

 

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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That looks much better!

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

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Second attempt at framing port side, I think I have a nice run of the cap rail now. I had to lower the last three gunport sills by a couple of mm to make it work. Still needs to faired in, and I’m going to redo the framing on the other side to make the angles consistent (the last frame is still too high and causes a bump on the cap rail run :( ).

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement!

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Bollards shaping, not quite complete yet, still some traces of laser char, and the caps haven’t been sanded down yet. First try and I’m 99% happy with them!

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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And Chapter 1 nearly completed! Just need to angle the bollard opening and finish fairing the inner bulkheads. Mainly aft in the qdeck section. Time to start ripping some planks methinks!

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Fairing problem at the bow. The very bow end of the first plank keeps breaking about 1/4 inch out from the rabbet. This is about as close as I can get the plank to the first frame without it snapping. Does that mean I should try to make the bow formers a bit more acute, so the plank comes into the rabbet at a slight angle? (not at 90 degrees to the keel).

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Yes ....it looks like you need more fairing close up to the rabbet and stem.  More is certainly needed but you also need to pre-bend those strips properly.   It sounds like you arent using heat to bend these strips enough before they are inserted into the stem.   

 

Its probably a combination of both those things.

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Thanks Chuck, I watched your videos and this is the first time I’ve tried ironing in the plane of the plank. Here’s the pictured plank after I took it off, and its predecessor with the snapped end. So more bend in the plane? Plus I’ve adjusted the filler angle now.

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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Ok, this does seem much better!

 

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Scott

In progress: 1:48 HMS Surprise 1796 (DeAgostini/AL)

                    1:48 HMS Winchelsea 1764 (NRG group project)

                    1:48 City of Buffalo Lake Steamer 1890 (Dumas)

Finished:  1:48 Lackawanna Steam Tug 1900 (Dumas)

                   3/16" scale Kate Cory whaler 1856 (Model Shipways)

                   1:48 Puritan 1885 (Mamoli)

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More bending the other way....you need to bend it edgewise but also the more typical way at the bow which you see everyone doing.  I use a hair dryer for that if its needed.   Also not a twist if that is needed also.   Its very complex and you should experiment.

 

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