Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

The main sail is furled. I was worried about this, but it came out alright. It doesn’t look too much different than a photo I have of the replica’s furled sail.  I also rigged the mainsail outhaul and the main sheet.  I used the rigging plan shown in the Petersson book mentioned above; even though I know that rigging practices changed in around 1800 and all of Petersson’s examples are of ships after 1805.  But, nothing is glued in place yet.

 

QvNxcpb3AlL03Mw17fykxFmgDARBBRN4u6m-ExxsBdUxOvIEi8antuVJZDoWCPBx3253WVj5-YQLZfiQW3_ACdW5SXe8OdZEXPlTYiQ8203iiyIoZbk4-MuSqj-ihl02tlLJQArp         AxFKmiLJpfD5Trx7Tt4g3lxGdgMIysL5Pjo5KHqkNU8LjpD-mrz1YkRroBG_Jy7DT6UTvk6nytpWa1iLY_735MdQ3eO3ApQ1psyy1r8qMd8n9l7uA-ZRyEQuDoy2nzueitWF4xzX

H_9120_Tz6ssthTOOUH-0CDdlYcIGqalhsVuA7MQ4gJI8g9jUIMKee1GUvmOuBsmyxshKkjlV5em5TNM-zLZrndwL63ip4RvNcWfs1Bbr0X7Ek4k0qbcHjGFxDyb3kVUoFvHLcts

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Thanks Thucydides. 

Furled sails aren’t that difficult.  But, I didn’t attempt it until my third model.  I was worried about other things.

However, your model looks like it’s coming along great.  Give it a try.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Thanks Tom and Mike.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

I'm thinking of putting furled sails on the Emma C Berry.  You doing so pushed me further in that direction.  Nice job.

Maury

Posted

Thanks Maury

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

  • 1 month later...
Posted

I spent a great deal of the summer in the country without my model.  But I survived and am happy to get back to work on the Providence.  The first thing I noticed is that the main sail is a bit too short.  

tchZmcUigi8DDvRAVbzgweE90_In-ddKm7D2RUOLbeA-fx5onAmpoJkuYAFSp2-cHjRs-0STdC3PDAsx5xWLe1GDwW41UhpfKV_r-fyYeWSqJdcG70-DmEKod6SMSOeck6jI7XNk=s0

 

So I took the sail down and made a new one.  I like the longer sail and I think the furling produced a better look this time. 

5hIojYbvq05r16cELhL8gsf3SR9HPSmJ8gKEWfj-F75CkovO685g2DVijJzvg8ux9e_M6gx2CYBK5Z_NWA1aPYzSruI-JlqDbmeEFWtScFZ2UrHRyBURoXeS_FDYB_1c5VymrIgf=s0

 

After redoing the rigging, I added a tack line which is described in Lee’s and Antscherl. 

Now it’s time to move on to something new.

PjOzHJcTRLKqDm_mj7KRrhAJw4IWwn8P9ud59XptGp5_f9q6D6ZCegNOPv0rIfnnwR3Xq-Tr4_ld_vg6j5HW1teuOvw5fzU7jYZOvfA3TNSGy-YuO6Vt29g9-lWYy3csqveLvNac=s0

     

ubUX1fvpSfkD-nX1eRA882sXVhDC8qlUqjVUNxQ2lF4K2xYYgNW5IIY-oMamkxs_O3LLHxOrmvTPXUDoW3SBiZz8hHokiWl2R1FGea83qpKRtgCflFeivB1xECL7VMDzOO6lT3je=s0

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Welcome back Ken. I missed your progress reports, and getting to see your fabulous model. Now get to work!:D

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

I made the main mast trestle trees and hounds/bibbs.  Before I glued them to the mast, I made the spreader yard (similar to the mizzen cross jack) because I want to make the truss, which ties the yard to the mast, while the yard is off the model.  A sling block and two quarter blocks are also stropped to the center of the yard which will be used later.  Then the yard is lowered over the mast head and the trestle trees and hounds are glued in place.  The mast itself and the yard are still not glued - in fact, I don’t plan on gluing either, but rather let the rigging keep everything properly lined up.  I also rigged the gaff throat and peak hallards.

 

Svi6-CAtM9pmgEsAT3nuqBzXnSSmzRth3S8qyd9YY8ssoVtmb7n-KY0o5cJILI-YYUkxa01x_72nHVv_v9Y1WWwUOXofoPo3dru29ySSEGUeY5yK8w91nJ2eOxTKwVFD2EYO1TvB=s0      9pBv5xi668Se84CyJ4CKah8g6Hg5PjsSwMbd95tP52S16CixDItbKd20DJh5lYTOdT7hhwYX_l1RlLdM_KLQtZFcZyatB_YwxIXgk3utb6rLtHo2s1fR9Egkqz81NEHIBMNRDnOA=s0

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

And now for something completely different.  I made the Winchelsea stove from Chuck Passaro’s kit.  The stove will be a great knick-knack for my oldest son’s desk or shelf.  Like all Syren kits,the parts are precision cut and fairly easy to assemble.  Some parts are very small and will break so care is needed.  Fortunately, extra pieces for those tricky parts are supplied.  Now, of course, I’m going to have to make another one for my youngest son.

 

Hk7CApx7DIrzAmouzhQXhQakuNuPTQrUk5dn6NahwHLLZqdok2kHEIciMQ0mJtGv37TvnAEwSF9aCR1vOqOI2oTZegmCwXzs7ZYV4tUeOvyS4NaENJ4QHj24e5JSN9kN0A81yql2=s0

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Nice to be able to see your latest progress Ken.

Great work on both the ship and the stove.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Back to the Providence.  I added the shrouds to the port and starboard sides.They have not been tied off yet.  I’m thinking I may want to undo them when trying to rig lines in the future.I’m thinking that I won’t add the ratlines before securing the shrouds.

 

vxfQb636H-aYsCcXYpO_aFUq18axdeFYp4uSTZfsHMxoZV7oT_DXJGaOVZn7JCKygqjdiMtKcRZEn0PucbAiR8qkpLzTC8oUNigwvJrzFNKtyYaD1-vww0l-qFR90fjFabmLkYHV        MAzwF1EQw0IOhvzCrmkIHT3i1_k6QQCVBgu-nBm0k9_l1JhpDQdqdOXL2meYKHfsFp3ZPfMMusP9Kx6vuOXKgERh6e9HkcfFMWRzYzL0B0y4Rgz-BW_UcWJi882e6xWPjutkWNZw

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Nice to see you making a little progress on your beautiful Providence Ken. Always enjoyable seeing her.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Thanks Lou and Mike.  "Plagiarize!  Let no one else's work evade your eyes!"

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

  Someone I know believes there were 2 guns on the quarterdeck (probably smaller than those on the weather deck), giving the Providence 12 guns in all.  I wouldn't know about that.  He also mentioned there would have been a ship's boat carried.  He references the Rhode Island repro. Providence in its present configuration for comparison, and said something I didn't quite understand about a slight projection of the quarterdeck.  He does admire the detail and skill put into the model as a fine representation.

Completed builds:  Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe

Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65

 

 

 

Posted

The number of guns on the Providence changed during its lifetime.  When it was converted from a merchant, it "took" 6 guns from British stores.  So, at first, it had 6 guns.  By the time command was given to JP Jones in Jan., 1776, she had "acquired" 10 guns.  When she was destroyed at Penobscot, she reportedly had 14.

I initially had the projections from the quarterdeck, but didn't like the look of it.  Other models done in the 1930s didn't have that either.  My choice.

My model will have a ships boat hanging from the stern.

Thanks for your comments.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

  Your points are well made.  Following the Glory of the Seas builds,  the series of photos show that the ship was continually modified throughout its life.  One builder noted the specific time he was aiming for - that is, a configuration appropriate to the time frame source pictures indicate.  There is no "one" Glory - as there is no "one" Providence or most other ships (the Wasa sank one its maiden voyage, so I suppose that the restored original in Stockholm is the 'version' most modelers should choose).  You have made an excellent model (also noted by my friend), and I doubt I could do as well ... maybe close.

 

Fair sailing and a following breeze!   Johnny

Completed builds:  Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe

Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I’m fully into the process of rigging the vessel.  I’ve added the boom topping lift, the fore stay, the fore back stay and the jib stay.  All of these lines were made using the rope I made using the Syren rope walk.  Next I’m going to tie the rat lines; but I’m leaving the shrouds still attached with the wires.  Just in case I need to move them out of the way as rigging continues. Also, the lines tied to the belaying pins are not glued or trimmed.  

 

oRkKvJyd3xebi_YQo8vCQMF_6bD9RI3EAM3o0UQaeB-I9p-Ti2lKd5He2AcOlAjI9ENlQNrUM9-3wbWbWCsp0KHNeXbkMpiw6yfqLYyC3_MXJgR2TfUQz4kRmGs8S_lT9Zp7EopP    OGwqYIiZtYoYqp_0NpJ6ANOWeiySNZraFtoh-2LnBWQHn2_Pgk400LSmmrfejRA5kvQKFp_RNVkl6ZOaDN9kaiC6cqkGOplZHZtjKOSsuyaMD_k7RyimPJ6FonY5LRYO3ctCjcc4

 

NYL_KfOLvPDPWweHFlEE_JFz6zG1G2V9Pct9RYzFW706QCfuAHKZiA7bA9q0JKW_GObd9KxMh8hX6fop_InVueEoc9NKjc8D7z8cW24-Qv-YG17qVbJQRHgb3ip5v6zph3Z-zxT9               DE06OKRlecF5MdtyOXOtS4dF_8_OJuUhxzMmLwHbTE4GUJHJuDfp5O7xm2p0p67UP21bZBsLFAXadVwV3uu0oI6W7k0Od5YgKntT-eAawWj4n_IpumOn1oGogooQIg_1cFPP6_5o

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

A real pleasure seeing your progress again Ken.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Thanks Gary.

Nice to meet you at the Northeast Conference.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Next up is the foremast staysail.  I’m going to attempt to use hanks rather than just a metal ring.  The hanks will be of metal, however, made to look like a wooden hank.  I’m using 28 gauge black wire.  First, I made the hanks and tied them with a very thin thread using a clove hitch.  The hanks were placed over the fore stay, and each hank was tied using a hole made using a drill where the “cloths” joined.  Add a little diluted white glue, trim the thread once the glue dries and cut off the exposed metal ends.

 

-whho2uqL1xg4GK0Gyv6nqhh_0ShBCYta-Pi3e5PQAKDTEHjedQj2hGWmmp_Ij1HY37H0cUcgvMuQHZB-Ng9m57CavtyCrSzP4gwINMMRDTr8TYJ-YDFEc6QKXofuA_JpC-ZMPN_     qHpZCXp5KCr0F_1N-ZA-6Hy0VWTK9wbTncEA_ivT8rfpG-fQOxhVgZvUbqONGwqmcRrzTx8T_92EgzBBO4vhsInMYVdnTSmVzaHrm6GdxpzLcz9huZKUaez0JtxtwPfmO6qrjmtY

 

Once all the hanks are done the sail looks ready to be furled.  However, that will have to wait until after after I make another Medway stove.

 

PzZpqRsogEzqaVJycHQRdzVBG-wn-9Dw_Ky-Fs6wpSs6EJmyyf4XDq9ux_Hc0xnRbkNzHjmmUR8s43-r_P_aPspzNWk2dgq9YPIF8nJ0JSHM9G0_9boTmi3LOvDk27mcuG1wMpLW

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted (edited)

Thanks Mike.  The stay line is home made.  I used the Syren rope walk and recommended formulas. 

In the case of the fore stay it was made from Gutterman Mara 70, 4 strands.

Cheers.

Edited by KenW

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

The ‘fore’ staysail has been furled.  I had to try three different positions before I found one that I liked.  Again the lines - halyard, downlauler, and sheets - are not belayed to their final location in the forecastle.  

 

   zPDqNu79ZBgSMBwhU4h4sK89Yw-EOFD7-tl4TVe1YTUBMKwOqOLSbmCNZ5hASPFm08GdGafqBxjiY4kv1xHOgGmqVngIDtqB-TOySRQSk0Cviup3cGWRrD-7xW77aLDfbpgHZ43y

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...