EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 3, 2019 #1 Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) I recently discovered ship models (and this site)! I've been lurking and reading for the last few weeks and I am diving in (in the shallow end). So here goes nothing! Edited February 2, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall Edwardkenway, VTHokiEE, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 3, 2019 Author #2 Posted November 3, 2019 Deflashing and paint. Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and J11 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 3, 2019 Author #3 Posted November 3, 2019 Added deck bits and put the hull and deck together. SigEp Ziggy, Edwardkenway, Tom E and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 4, 2019 Author #5 Posted November 4, 2019 Thanks VTHokiEE, GrandpaPhil, and DanO for the encouragement! The Sharpie Schooner and the Victory look wonderful; thanks for sharing the logs! It looks like Midwest (the maker of the Sharpie kit) has stopped making those kits. The Constitution is my introduction to thinking about rigging. I have a partial plastic kit of Heller's HMS Victory 1:100 (and I was just looking at GrandpaPhil's build last week before I became a member!). If I hang-on long enough to finish those, then I'll try something wooden. The Sharpie kit looks like a reasonable starting point, but I have many miles to travel before such decisions. GrandpaPhil and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 5, 2019 Author #6 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) First minor disaster - two of the lower guns popped out! (Third from the right was the tricky one). I tried to use tweezers but that didn't work. I hadn't put on the transom yet, so I tried with long tweezers. No luck, I couldn't 'release' the gun once in the right spot. In the end, I used a bamboo skewer with a blob of mounting putty (fun tack) and that worked. (Of course, the blob stuck to the gun. ) Edited November 5, 2019 by EricWilliamMarshall double of the same pic lmagna, SigEp Ziggy, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
Edwardkenway Posted November 5, 2019 #7 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Hi Eric, I built this model as a kid, so much fun even then, but it was just glue it and paint it, built from the box, rigging and everything. Yours already looks 100% better than mine ever did. Keep up the good work. Cheers Edited November 5, 2019 by Edwardkenway EricWilliamMarshall and lmagna 2 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
Shotlocker Posted November 5, 2019 #8 Posted November 5, 2019 Eric, Like Edwardkenway, I built this model right out of the box and followed the rigging plan that was included (back in the late '60's) - have enjoyed displaying it for all the decades since. Enjoy, it's a fun build and yours is looking great and I hope you keep it (intact!) as long as I have mine. EricWilliamMarshall, GrandpaPhil, J11 and 5 others 8 Quote
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 6, 2019 Author #9 Posted November 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: it was just glue it and paint it, built from the box, rigging and everything. Umm, that's the plan. Hunting around modelshipworld has inspired me to take more care, when possible. Thanks for the encouragement! Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 6, 2019 Author #10 Posted November 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Shotlocker said: I hope you keep it (intact!) as long as I have mine. Wow! She looks great! Feel free to share some more photos! It looks like you didn't use the 'stock' ratlines. Am I correct? (I realize it may have been a while, no worries if the such details have faded in the haze of glory of a finished model.) I hope anything I work on is around in fifty years! Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
Edwardkenway Posted November 6, 2019 #11 Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, EricWilliamMarshall said: 20 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: it was just glue it and paint it, built from the box, rigging and everything. Umm, that's the plan. Hunting around modelshipworld has inspired me to take more care, when possible. Thanks for the encouragement! Eric what I meant was as a kid, impatience took over and my model was thrown together, no thought about upgrading or re-modelling. Same with the rigging just used whatever was supplied. No offence intended. 👍😉 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 7, 2019 Author #12 Posted November 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: No offence intended. None taken! I was being silly; as a newbie here my giving ' no thought about upgrading or re-modelling.' Also the same 'with the rigging just used whatever was supplied.' The goal is merely to complete the model and get a taste of dealing with the fiddlely strings, knots and the like. Edwardkenway 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 7, 2019 Author #13 Posted November 7, 2019 A couple quick shots: guns back where they ought to be. A boat added and the bowsprit started. SigEp Ziggy, chris watton, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
J11 Posted November 7, 2019 #14 Posted November 7, 2019 Nice quality work going on, look forward to your updates. EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Current build project: CSS Alabama 1/96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20148-css-alabama-by-jonathan11-revell-196-scale-kit-bash-90-historical-accuracy/ Finished build projects 2018: H.L Hunley 1/24 CSS Arkansas 1/96
Shotlocker Posted November 7, 2019 #15 Posted November 7, 2019 Thank you, Eric. As to to using the stock ratlines, yes, I did indeed use them. Here are three more photos of the Constitution and one of the Thermopylae, which I finished in 1960 when I was 13. Won a first place trophy with her at a USNR model boat show in Toledo the next year. Keep up the good work, your Connie is lookin' fine. J11, Tigerdvr, Blue Pilot and 5 others 8 Quote
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 7, 2019 Author #16 Posted November 7, 2019 Shotlocker, beautiful!! I'm building the baby version (1/196). If I survive this one, the next will be bigger. The photos were already useful to me! SigEp Ziggy 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
ScottRC Posted November 7, 2019 #17 Posted November 7, 2019 Eric, Your paintwork is very good. The flat black seems to make everything look more to scale. Shotlocker, I do not know what to say, your rigging at 13 is better than what I can do after forty years. Scott EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Current Builds: Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch Marine Models USF Essex
Shotlocker Posted November 7, 2019 #18 Posted November 7, 2019 Thanks again, Eric, I'm glad I was of some help to you. And Scott...thank you as well...I'm in an "aww, shucks" mode right now. Heh. EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 10, 2019 Author #19 Posted November 10, 2019 Little by little! J11, SigEp Ziggy and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 11, 2019 Author #20 Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) What advice do folk have for painting even fine lines and strips? Edited November 11, 2019 by EricWilliamMarshall SigEp Ziggy, GrandpaPhil and J11 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 11, 2019 Author #21 Posted November 11, 2019 I'm also curious for wisdom regarding knots and the clean cutting of string. SigEp Ziggy, GrandpaPhil and J11 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 11, 2019 Author #22 Posted November 11, 2019 She has her masts and plastic ratlines attached. I lost another cannon and again reinserted it via putty and bamboo. J11, Edwardkenway, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 14, 2019 Author #23 Posted November 14, 2019 I’ve started to rig the model. And have chosen the “detailed” path of the two options presented in the instructions. It is very slow going. Each bit of string taking several attempts (and removing it and trying again). Part of the learning curve I assume. The bow poles broke off under the slightest tension of the string. So I have changed how they attach to the greater hull for greater strength. I’m hopeful that things speed up, otherwise the next post will at Thanksgiving to share the next four bits of string added to the ship! ccoyle, Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
Shotlocker Posted November 14, 2019 #24 Posted November 14, 2019 Well, Eric, I'm a bit chagrined...I saw the box cover art at the beginning of your build log and my mind said, "1/96th scale", so I didn't pay attention to any background bits in your photos until this morning when I noticed some significant differences in the stern details of your model as compared to mine. Then I saw the ship sitting on an open book. Sheesh. My bad. Anyway, as for painting fine lines and strips, all I can advise is to use a very fine artists brush with a steady hand and perhaps some magnification. And practice! I usually cut the rigging lines with nail clippers if I can reach the spot with them, otherwise I use a very sharp no. 11 blade. I also often tie knots using tweezers. Hope this helps. Edwardkenway and EricWilliamMarshall 2 Quote
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 14, 2019 Author #25 Posted November 14, 2019 No worries! I also stumbled over the issue of scale myself when looking at the other build logs. 1/96 and 1/196 are pretty close at a glance. As a side note, regarding the stem, the model has the figure (of Andrew Jackson, I believe) in the kit. The photos on the box show that painted with blue for the jacket and black for the hat and so on. The photo of the actual figurehead theses days show only two colors. And older photos suggest a gilt covering. The painting on the box top doesn’t have the figurehead, same as in your model! The model’s molded details seem to match one of the 20th century configurations, while the photos on the model box cover show an older set up with more gilt work, which again are a mismatch for the box top painting. Nor do these details match the current ship sitting in Boston harbor. I didn’t realize those mismatches fully for quilt a while and my paintwork show a little bit on confusion as a result, showing a hypothetical USS Constitution than any one period in particular. My last photos are missing Mr. Jackson, due to my manhandling during the attempt to rig the bow poles and their subsequent repair but he will return shortly. Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 14, 2019 Author #26 Posted November 14, 2019 I took several passes at the transom to improve the painting. The one without the quarter is the most recent attempt. Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil, Javlin and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
Shotlocker Posted November 14, 2019 #27 Posted November 14, 2019 Eric, here are three photos of the original box/art for that kit (1956) with the plans. Interestingly enough, in photo 2, you can see a sailor sawing the Jackson figurehead's head off, and the jacket is colored red. I'm not familiar with that little story, maybe someone on here can enlighten us on it? That model, by the way, was the first plastic sailing ship I ever built and I still have its remains; thought I'd restore it someday but probably won't ever get to it.... GrandpaPhil, Baker, SigEp Ziggy and 2 others 5 Quote
Shotlocker Posted November 14, 2019 #28 Posted November 14, 2019 Here's a link to the story of Jackson's head: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/nyregion/05jackson.html J11, Stevinne and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote
EricWilliamMarshall Posted November 15, 2019 Author #29 Posted November 15, 2019 And another: https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/2015/07/02/off-with-his-head/ and https://mcny.org/story/beheading-president-andrew-jackson (the current owners of the figurehead. Stevinne 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 15, 2019 #30 Posted November 15, 2019 I love the old Revell box. Great build by the way! Blue Pilot and EricWilliamMarshall 2 Quote Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
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