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Posted
1 hour ago, Edwardkenway said:

the women in our lives tell us..... often

I think ALWAYS or CONTINUALLY is more applicable in my house! But then I probably bring it on myself. I don't want to grow up......... Ever!

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

You all know the old saying"The only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys". Describes us quite nicely thank you.;)

 

 

Lou, sounds like the alert barn when I was in Germany. We had a bunch of us playing board war games from Avalon Hill and others.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

Member Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Lou, think you should get an Action Man  toy for Christmas  - and  yes in deedey  none of us should grow up  not till after our 16th birthday anyway.😉

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted (edited)

I have no idea what I would do with an Action Man figure but I have been building a figure for several years now based on one of my favorite books as a kid. Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers. Not the movies but the book from the 50s.

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It comes much closer to the power suit described in the book. I keep it in my camping trailer and work on it each summer when we go camping with the full family. 

 

Glad to know we were not alone Ken. Always wondered if many other full grown men played those games. The only one I really disliked was one of the guys always wanted to play Stalingrad. He would always play the Germans and just lived for the day when in one out of ten games he would actually win. Land strategy games always bored me to tears. I liked tactical games.............. With the possible exception of War Of The Roses. For some reason I really liked that one.

Edited by lmagna

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Canute said:

Lou, sounds like the alert barn when I was in Germany. We had a bunch of us playing board war games from Avalon Hill and others.

 

3 hours ago, lmagna said:

Always wondered if many other full grown men played those games. The only one I really disliked was one of the guys always wanted to play Stalingrad.

Panzer Leader, Axis & Allies, Battle of the Bulge, Tobruk..... it goes on and on..... Couldn't win at Tobruk, couldn't lose in Battle of the Bulge, didn't matter what side I played.... Brother got so he wouldn't play with me anymore...... Neither would the boys from Ft Lewis. Took over half a garage for a campaign battle once, four and a half weeks, after that the war department said the Strategic Tactical Simulator had to go.... {chuckle}

 

I still hear about it today when the admiralty wants to remind me of how obsessive I can become.... It was fun, don't know anyone now who plays..... but sometimes I wish I did....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Quote:

"Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"

Posted
1 hour ago, Egilman said:

don't know anyone now who play

I think it has all gone digital these days. You might look at https://www.old-games.com/download/5709/wooden-ships-iron-men  They have a number of the old games available.

 

I sometimes think that possibly getting into the World of Warships could be the modern version of many of the games of older years without having to crawl all over the garage floor with a tape measure and roll dice. The last time I played that kind of game was on the kids Nintendo called Submarine and was WWII US fleet sub action in the pacific. One night I stayed up all night until dawn doing patrols with my sub sinking everything in sight and playing cat and mouse with the escorts. It could have been very addictive.

 

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Just found this thread that started out as UH-1 build but developed a life of its own! 55 years ago (Dec 1965), I shipped as a volunteer to Vietnam as tank gunner to report to 1st Infantry Division, but at the reception depot, they asked for door gunner volunteers. The rest is history, I volunteered, they accepted and for the next 9 months that was my life. Assigned to flight platoon for 52nd Combat Aviation Battalion under MACV, then they changed us (in the same job and place) to 172nd Assault Helicopter Company, and then to 282nd AHC under 1st Aviation Bde. Got lucky and got shot at only twice and never had to shoot at anyone. We visited every Special Forces A team in II Corps, most cities and many towns, and many units in the field. Flew into Qui Nhon and Nha Trang many times. Exciting times with good memories and a certain feeling of guilt of not experiencing the fear, pain, and direct loss of comrades that so many had to endure. Separation from the army (ETS) kept my tour to 9 months instead of the 12 months most had. But my time has remained strongly in my mind and if you ever send me a message from here, it will be routed to my email address of doorgunnerjgs@... A time never to be forgotten.

The Old Curmudgeon.

 

Current Build(s):

    Cutty Sark by Photo Bud - Revell - 1:220

    Endeavour by Photo Bud - Amati - 1:80

Posted
20 minutes ago, Photo Bud said:

Just found this thread that started out as UH-1 build but developed a life of its own! 55 years ago (Dec 1965), I shipped as a volunteer to Vietnam as tank gunner to report to 1st Infantry Division, but at the reception depot, they asked for door gunner volunteers. The rest is history, I volunteered, they accepted and for the next 9 months that was my life. Assigned to flight platoon for 52nd Combat Aviation Battalion under MACV, then they changed us (in the same job and place) to 172nd Assault Helicopter Company, and then to 282nd AHC under 1st Aviation Bde. Got lucky and got shot at only twice and never had to shoot at anyone. We visited every Special Forces A team in II Corps, most cities and many towns, and many units in the field. Flew into Qui Nhon and Nha Trang many times. Exciting times with good memories and a certain feeling of guilt of not experiencing the fear, pain, and direct loss of comrades that so many had to endure. Separation from the army (ETS) kept my tour to 9 months instead of the 12 months most had. But my time has remained strongly in my mind and if you ever send me a message from here, it will be routed to my email address of doorgunnerjgs@... A time never to be forgotten.

Thank you for explaining that  - I will leave you in the hands of Lou  to chat.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Glad to meet you Bud. Our stories match in a number of ways in that "Door Gunner" was not my MOS but at RepDep they were still asking for volunteers almost five years after your time. I had been warned to never volunteer for anything in the Army but the idea of getting to fly over rid my common sense and like you say the rest is history. I ended up in the 4th Army out of An Khe and Pleiku.

 

I admit that this build log has wandered all over the place more than once and has also suffered somewhat lately with the fact that there has not been any real building of the model at all for a number of reasons. But that was the intent of this build from the beginning if you read through the posts from #1. I don't think it has affected the credibility of this forum as relatively few people are actually following the lower grade build of a helicopter on what is after all a ship forum. But it has provided a sounding board and meeting room for a number of people to go back 50 years, (Or more in your case) and remember where they were and what they were doing in both civilian and military life. I think that it has also served as a release point  and social location for some of the COVID blues that many of us are experiencing even though I had no idea this would happen when I started it.

 

This latest activity has somewhat also motivated me to get of my lazy butt and get some work done on the Huey and continue the model/story I originally started. So hopefully some progress and pictures will follow soon and things will start heading down a more direct path.   

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted

Welcome home, Bud. 👍

 

And get hopping there, Lou. You've been slacking, man. Silly excuse, you've been in the hospital. ;):D

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

Member Nautical Research Guild

Posted

:36::36:can't wait!!

It's good to have you back Lou :D

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 - on hold

 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64 - FINISHED   Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - FINISHED

Providence whaleboat- 1:25 - FINISHED

 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Canute said:

Silly excuse, you've been in the hospital.

But they wouldn't let me build anything when I was there! :ph34r: They insisted that the only construction allowed was to be done by them and that it would cost thousands an hour!

 

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!:blink:

 

Thank you Edward you are too kind. I will try not to disappoint. 

Edited by lmagna

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Edwardkenway said:

:36::36:can't wait!!

It's good to have you back Lou :D

Amen Brother!!!

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Quote:

"Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"

Posted
14 hours ago, lmagna said:

One night I stayed up all night until dawn doing patrols with my sub sinking everything in sight and playing cat and mouse with the escorts. It could have been very addictive.

It definitely was that brother, a totally immersive experience..... (on any level)

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Quote:

"Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"

Posted

Welcome home, Bud.   Seems many times models trigger memories.  Or maybe it's the other way around?  I know my build went off the tracks at times.    And I'll add, this is only area where things sometimes get way beyond modeling.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted
44 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Welcome home, Bud.   Seems many times models trigger memories.  Or maybe it's the other way around?  I know my build went off the tracks at times.    And I'll add, this is only area where things sometimes get way beyond modeling.

But we can share with brothers and friends here  -  its unique  here for that reason,   very special place we have.💜

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

look'in forward in seeing some progress Lou........ :) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

I just want to say I appreciated reading through this thread.  Thank you guys for all you've done, and for all you're continuing to do, I might add.  I'm pretty new to the community, but I enjoy the closeness I'm seeing among its members.

 

Lou, I hope the recovery is going well and thanks for your inputs on my build.  I hope to see some more coming from the Huey build in the future.

 

I have to add, when I was at flight school for the Army, down at Mother Rucker's in AL, many in my class lamented the fact that the Huey was no longer in the Army inventory.  However, across the way, the Air Force still use the Huey for their training aircraft and we would sit and drool watching them fly, especially when they did their tactical flight training.  A few of the Air Force trainees I talked to seemed to find the Huey a bit old and couldn't wait to move on to bigger and better.  They couldn't seem to understand why we'd give our right leg, or something else, just to be able to fly one.  

 

Regards,

 

Tom

Current Build:

USS Tinosa (SSN 606) Fast Attack Submarine - Scratchbuild

 

Posted (edited)

Thank you Tom

 

I suspect that you have a lot more time in rotary wing than I will ever get to experience, and I hope you are able to continue sharing them with us. You have MANY more years invested than I do and so it should be me thanking you. I just spent a few years a long time ago saying "Yes sir yes sir three bags full" a lot and was lucky enough to end up doing something that I really enjoyed and felt was meaningful. It was not until I came back that I was reminded over and over again that the  time I felt was such a meaningful part of my life, was somehow disgraceful and would stain me for years to come. I was never able to come to terms with that I suppose, and it pops out probably all too often. In the mean time people like you, Ken and many others continued to serve while it was so unpopular, while people like me tried for years to hide in plain sight whether we knew it or not.

 

That is funny that anyone but us older people miss the Huey. It was AGES behind the Blackhawk! We almost always had to worry about the load on hot days, even with the D & H models. We could do, and did many things but if I look back and am honest, we probably flew all too often in aircraft that here in the states would have been grounded, and made the aircraft do things that it were not even imagined when it was designed. In later years I kind of wondered if we were the modern version of WWI pilots/crews who pretty much flew by the seat of our pants in an untested untried novel machine that was really in it's infancy.

 

So what was the attraction of the Huey to you later pilots? Admittedly is is smaller and lighter but is also less powerful by a considerable margin. Or at least the D/H models were. May not be the same for the newer twin engine versions.

 

Thanks for looking in on my long overdue and neglected build. I promise I will be getting back to it as soon. there is much I would like to do to it yet and not really much time if I want to still fit into the 50th anniversary time frame. I wish that Kittyhawk had come out with their version of the Huey/D as advertised but like everything COVID it may not happen for years. But even though I think it would be a better 1/35th scale base, it would still be limited by my limitations so who knows if it would have turned out better.

 

As for the community here on this log and on MSW in general. Yes they are a rather enjoyable crowd to hang out with with few of the proclivities I see on so many other forums. I like to think I have become fairly close to a number of them, even though we come from all parts of the world.

 

Welcome aboard and looking forward to keeping up with your builds and life when you care to share.

Edited by lmagna

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, lmagna said:

Thank you Tom

 

I suspect that you have a lot more time in rotary wing than I will ever get to experience, and I hope you are able to continue sharing them with us. You have MANY more years invested than I do and so it should be me thanking you. I just spent a few years a long time ago saying "Yes sir yes sir three bags full" a lot and was lucky enough to end up doing something that I really enjoyed and felt was meaningful. It was not until I came back that I was reminded over and over again the that time I felt was such a meaningful part of my life, was somehow disgraceful and would stain me for years to come. I was never able to come to terms with that I suppose, and it pops out probably all too often. In the mean time people like you, Ken and many others continued to serve while it was so unpopular, while people like me tried for years to hide in plain sight whether we knew it or not.

 

That is funny that anyone but us older people miss the Huey. It was AGES behind the Blackhawk! We almost always had to worry about the load on hot days, even with the D & H models. We could do, and did many things but if I look back and am honest, we probably flew all too often in aircraft that here in the states would have been grounded, and made the aircraft do things that it were not even imagined when it was designed. In later years I kind of wondered if we were the modern version of WWI pilots/crews who pretty much flew by the seat of our pants in an untested untried novel machine that was really in it's infancy.

 

So what was the attraction of the Huey to you later pilots? Admittedly is is smaller and lighter but is also less powerful by a considerable margin. Or at least the D/H models were. May not be the same for the newer twin engine versions.

 

Thanks for looking in on my long overdue and neglected build. I promise I will be getting back to it as soon. there is much I would like to do to it yet and not really much time if I want to still fit into the 50th anniversary time frame. I wish that Kittyhawk had come out with their version of the Huey/D as advertised but like everything COVID it may not happen for years. But even though I think it would be a better 1/35th scale base, it would still be limited by my limitations so who knows if it would have turned out better.

 

As for the community here on this log and on MSW in general. Yes they are a rather enjoyable crowd to hang out with with few of the proclivity's I see on so many other forums. I like to think I have become fairly close to a number of them, even though we come from all parts of the world.

 

Welcome aboard and looking forward to keeping up with your builds and life when you care to share.

Very nicely said Lou  - true words there indeed.👍

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

I'm still a fairly green aviator, 800+ hours.  I'm, of course, working to improve on that 😉.  For us, the draw to the Huey is probably because it is so iconic.  If there is one helicopter that in itself, could best encapsulate Army Aviation, its the Huey.  A lot of that comes from the fact that it was made to do things above and beyond what it was originally designed to do.

 

As I'm typing this, I realize I haven't given a lot of background information on myself.  I enlisted in 2007 as an engineer in the Army Guard.  My MOS was Heavy Equipment Operator.  I really enjoyed that, for nearly ten years, operating bulldozers, front-end-loaders, graders, and the like.  Finally, a few years ago, I made the jump to aviation and was awarded a flight slot.  I spent a couple years down at Ft. Rucker getting all schooled up.  I've been back now with the unit for a couple years flying the UH-72 Lakota, which is Airbus' (formerly Eurocopter) EC-145 C-2 (BK-117), just painted green.  I do have some time in the Blackhawk, but currently, my main airframe is the Lakota.

 

I've got a family that I enjoy spending my time with when I'm not at work.  I've always been interested in models, though this took the form of airplane models in my younger years.  Boat modeling has been a recent discovery, about the time I decided instead of buying my dad a model of his sub, Tinosa, I could probably make it (so I thought) for quite a bit cheaper, and with a bit more satisfaction.  

 

To bring things full circle, when my interest in the military grew, by that point, societies viewpoint of the military was already changing.  Definitely, things took a rapid turn towards the positive, as far as the public was concerned, after 9/11.  So, I've been fortunate to have been respected for my decision.  My respect to all of you who, many of you being drafted, came back to the opposite.  I'm glad to see that our society nowadays, while it may not agree with the government's decision that sends us overseas, doesn't take that out on the military members themselves (at this time at least).

 

I realize I'm still summarizing/glossing over a lot of my life and particularly what I'm doing currently, but I tend to the buck the trend and try to be careful what I post.  Because of this, I tend to under share.  I don't even have a Facebook or any other social media.  So, that said, I imagine I'll unwind a bit more as time goes on.  The community here seems like a great place for that. 

 

I'm really interested in talking aviation and military history, so please, keep me in the loop if you guys have any other discussions pertaining to that!

 

 

Regards,

 

Tom

Current Build:

USS Tinosa (SSN 606) Fast Attack Submarine - Scratchbuild

 

Posted
1 hour ago, lmagna said:

Thank you Tom

 

I suspect that you have a lot more time in rotary wing than I will ever get to experience, and I hope you are able to continue sharing them with us. You have MANY more years invested than I do and so it should be me thanking you. I just spent a few years a long time ago saying "Yes sir yes sir three bags full" a lot and was lucky enough to end up doing something that I really enjoyed and felt was meaningful. It was not until I came back that I was reminded over and over again that the  time I felt was such a meaningful part of my life, was somehow disgraceful and would stain me for years to come. I was never able to come to terms with that I suppose, and it pops out probably all too often. In the mean time people like you, Ken and many others continued to serve while it was so unpopular, while people like me tried for years to hide in plain sight whether we knew it or not.

 

That is funny that anyone but us older people miss the Huey. It was AGES behind the Blackhawk! We almost always had to worry about the load on hot days, even with the D & H models. We could do, and did many things but if I look back and am honest, we probably flew all too often in aircraft that here in the states would have been grounded, and made the aircraft do things that it were not even imagined when it was designed. In later years I kind of wondered if we were the modern version of WWI pilots/crews who pretty much flew by the seat of our pants in an untested untried novel machine that was really in it's infancy.

 

So what was the attraction of the Huey to you later pilots? Admittedly is is smaller and lighter but is also less powerful by a considerable margin. Or at least the D/H models were. May not be the same for the newer twin engine versions.

 

Thanks for looking in on my long overdue and neglected build. I promise I will be getting back to it as soon. there is much I would like to do to it yet and not really much time if I want to still fit into the 50th anniversary time frame. I wish that Kittyhawk had come out with their version of the Huey/D as advertised but like everything COVID it may not happen for years. But even though I think it would be a better 1/35th scale base, it would still be limited by my limitations so who knows if it would have turned out better.

 

As for the community here on this log and on MSW in general. Yes they are a rather enjoyable crowd to hang out with with few of the proclivities I see on so many other forums. I like to think I have become fairly close to a number of them, even though we come from all parts of the world.

 

Welcome aboard and looking forward to keeping up with your builds and life when you care to share.

 

Amen, brother.  Too many times we seemed to be the lost sheep in a world of wolves.  I wish you would prioritize your Huey build.  I felt a lot of healing just building my CH-53 and talking about the experiences and listening to the others.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Guess I was hidin out on active duty all that time and never realized it. :D Returning to the World was a tad traumatic, back in '73, but I only passed thru home and then over to West Germany, ensconced on a little base hidden in the Eifel. For the historians, it was a staging ground for the Wehrmacht and the Battle of the Bulge's southern side of the salient. Never did get a welcome home, thank-you until I don't even remember. Think it was in the late 80s, another vet I met wearing a POW hat. Been welcoming home every vet I meet nowadays. Lou's blade stories strike a cord.;)

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

Member Nautical Research Guild

Posted

My mistake Tom

 

I was thinking that you were like the rest of us old fogies, only possibly a little younger. Looks like I may have s couple of sons in your age range. (That could give me some leeway. I have one son who is 51 and two more in their mid 30s.)

 

Just because you don't serve in the shamed Army of old, does not mean that you guys don't carry your own burden. I cannot remember a time in US history where the same troops were asked to go back to the combat zone time after time for yet another tour in the very same war. Yes there were a number of guys who served in WWII, came back for Korea, and were still serving in Vietnam. The same could be said for Vietnam vets serving in the present conflicts I'm certain. But to face the prospect of going back into combat every few months or every year, leaving your family and all aspects of a "Normal life" for months on end is something I cannot imagine. 

 

I understand your comment about flying backwards a little better now. Like a couple of it's predecessors, the Kiowa and the Cayuse the Lakota is a pretty agile helicopter but in many ways it is more evenly matched to the Huey than a Blackhawk. Hopefully some day you may get your wish to add the Huey to your list of aircraft you have flown.

 

I think it is safe to say that all of us here share your love of things modeling. The one common area of course is ships and the histories of them as well. But down here in the forum dungeons you can see almost anything from space ships to medieval villages. 

 

I also think you have made the right decision in deciding to build your Fathers sub. Even if there was something out there that was "off the shelf" the added fact that it was built with care and attention by you has far more meaning to any parent. I have a couple of rocks that my youngest grandson gave to me as a gift a number of years ago as a gift sitting on my nightstand. They are just common roundish rocks one can find pretty much anywhere but because they were form him they will always have a place of honor where I can see them everyday. Many years ago I built a Lockheed p-2 Neptune for my ex-father-in-law, (When I was still married to his daughter) and even though it was probably mediocre in fit and finish he kept it on the shelf for many years. It was the plane he flew in as navigator during Operation Deep Freeze but I like to think it was also how he came about getting it that mattered to him. 

 

No need to share what you don't feel comfortable sharing. Jump in when you want with however much you feel comfortable with. We all pretty much do the same thing. We all have been there I think. In my case it was years of not admitting to being a combat vet for fear of offending the wrong people. Then there were years of also not discussing my job to outsiders. Very few people I came into contact with understood what being a police officer was and in some cases even felt uncomfortable if they found out what I did for a living.

 

As far as I know there is no need to ask permission to join the "Loop". I think it is safe to say it is an open loop and all are welcome. I don't think any of us here feel we know everything about history, (Even though it sometimes sounds like we do) but we all share the same interest. Be forewarned though that by joining in with this crowd your build logs can take some pretty strange directions and have a life of it's own. Especially when the subject of food comes up. We are a big unruly at times and considered slovenly hijackers by many on the forum. A personality flaw that is possibly only slightly elevated above Pirate.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
45 minutes ago, Canute said:

Never did get a welcome home, thank-you until I don't even remember. Think it was in the late 80s,

That seems about right but I think the actual first time I heard the words "Welcome home" was in the late 90s, and like you, from another Vet. I was still new to the idea of even admitting I was a Vietnam vet and it was possibly the biggest shock I had received in years and I had no idea what to say back. I think I just stood there for five or ten seconds with my mouth hanging open. To be honest I still feel a little odd about people saying it to me. To me, it is a term reserved for the present generation of Vets. I may have felt differently fifty years ago I suppose, even though, even then I felt I was just doing the job I was sent to do and very little more. I  never had a personal interest in the politics of the Vietnam War one way or the other.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
25 minutes ago, lmagna said:

My mistake Tom

 

I was thinking that you were like the rest of us old fogies, only possibly a little younger. Looks like I may have s couple of sons in your age range. (That could give me some leeway. I have one son who is 51 and two more in their mid 30s.)

 

Just because you don't serve in the shamed Army of old, does not mean that you guys don't carry your own burden. I cannot remember a time in US history where the same troops were asked to go back to the combat zone time after time for yet another tour in the very same war. Yes there were a number of guys who served in WWII, came back for Korea, and were still serving in Vietnam. The same could be said for Vietnam vets serving in the present conflicts I'm certain. But to face the prospect of going back into combat every few months or every year, leaving your family and all aspects of a "Normal life" for months on end is something I cannot imagine. 

 

I understand your comment about flying backwards a little better now. Like a couple of it's predecessors, the Kiowa and the Cayuse the Lakota is a pretty agile helicopter but in many ways it is more evenly matched to the Huey than a Blackhawk. Hopefully some day you may get your wish to add the Huey to your list of aircraft you have flown.

 

I think it is safe to say that all of us here share your love of things modeling. The one common area of course is ships and the histories of them as well. But down here in the forum dungeons you can see almost anything from space ships to medieval villages. 

 

I also think you have made the right decision in deciding to build your Fathers sub. Even if there was something out there that was "off the shelf" the added fact that it was built with care and attention by you has far more meaning to any parent. I have a couple of rocks that my youngest grandson gave to me as a gift a number of years ago as a gift sitting on my nightstand. They are just common roundish rocks one can find pretty much anywhere but because they were form him they will always have a place of honor where I can see them everyday. Many years ago I built a Lockheed p-2 Neptune for my ex-father-in-law, (When I was still married to his daughter) and even though it was probably mediocre in fit and finish he kept it on the shelf for many years. It was the plane he flew in as navigator during Operation Deep Freeze but I like to think it was also how he came about getting it that mattered to him. 

 

No need to share what you don't feel comfortable sharing. Jump in when you want with however much you feel comfortable with. We all pretty much do the same thing. We all have been there I think. In my case it was years of not admitting to being a combat vet for fear of offending the wrong people. Then there were years of also not discussing my job to outsiders. Very few people I came into contact with understood what being a police officer was and in some cases even felt uncomfortable if they found out what I did for a living.

 

As far as I know there is no need to ask permission to join the "Loop". I think it is safe to say it is an open loop and all are welcome. I don't think any of us here feel we know everything about history, (Even though it sometimes sounds like we do) but we all share the same interest. Be forewarned though that by joining in with this crowd your build logs can take some pretty strange directions and have a life of it's own. Especially when the subject of food comes up. We are a big unruly at times and considered slovenly hijackers by many on the forum. A personality flaw that is possibly only slightly elevated above Pirate.

"Did  someone mention food"    

And  Pirates............😋:dancetl6:

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted
1 hour ago, mtaylor said:

I wish you would prioritize your Huey build.

I agree Mark.

 

I need to get my ducks a little better organized and make some hobby time available. Even an hour a day would at least make some progress. I still need to get my dining room corner cleared out and My special chair back into place. Everything has kind of become overgrown in that area in my absence.

 

I got the parlor partly cleaned up and then got the Christmas tree up and decorated for my wife. Most of the family Christmas presents have been bought and stashed all over the house waiting for wrapping, and the bills are paid. No new surprise hospital trips for a while now, and I am up to doing the dished everyday and walking the dog again. So soon she may release me and allow me time between at least some of the honey do's to do some building.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, lmagna said:

I agree Mark.

 

I need to get my ducks a little better organized and make some hobby time available. Even an hour a day would at least make some progress. I still need to get my dining room corner cleared out and My special chair back into place. Everything has kind of become overgrown in that area in my absence.

 

I got the parlor partly cleaned up and then got the Christmas tree up and decorated for my wife. Most of the family Christmas presents have been bought and stashed all over the house waiting for wrapping, and the bills are paid. No new surprise hospital trips for a while now, and I am up to doing the dished everyday and walking the dog again. So soon she may release me and allow me time between at least some of the honey do's to do some building.

Where all here and awaiting your return brother  - you know that.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

I've found the only way to get ducks in a row is to roast them.... one at a time.  Yes, life does get a bit messy at times.  I'm still sorting things out and probably will be dead before they all are.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted
21 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

awaiting your return

Oh I'm still here............ Possibly much to the dismay of my long suffering wife.  I is just that I have not been modeling in the time allowed  as I should be.

 

12 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

I've found the only way to get ducks in a row is to roast them.... one at a time

I still have a fairly large family Mark so I would have to do at least a few at at a time possibly with a nice orange sauce. Now you went and made my mouth start watering. i would at least have to try and convince my youngest that it was chicken. He almost never goes for a new dish!

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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