HMS Bounty’s Jolly Boat by Jonny 007 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:25 - SMALL - First wooden ship build

[Duanelaker]

I also built this boat as my first one, it is a pretty good starter kit.  Can't wait to see you finish it up!

[Jonny 007]

On 4/1/2020 at 5:47 PM, catopower said:

Just my 2 cents, but I think you'll actually have an easier time, and a better looking model, if you just remake the boom and gaff. Probably didn't take you all that long to do, and you can clearly do a good job with those. Resewing the sail will possibly leave you with something that stands out on the model.

Hi Clare,

Thank you for your thoughts on this. I have decided to follow you advice and remake the boom and gaff.

However, due to COVID 19 I am currently unable to order any replacement timber.

So my new plan is to finish rigging the model as per the plans, but have that main sail rolled up in the boat.

That way I can finish the model, then come back to it at a later date and replace the parts needed.

 

I really want to finish so I can start the next model haha!

Edited April 8, 2020 by Jonny 007

[Jonny 007]

Small, picture less update:

I have been wanting to find some replacement 4mm dowel to remark my boom and spar but haven’t had any luck locally due to the restrictions (which I highly approve of).

So I have ordered some from a very well known shop in England. I also ordered a few little extra bits and bobs.

This is so I can add some extra rigging details. It does mean a slight move away from my built as per instructions original plan. However looking at some other builds, a bit of extra rigging greatly improves the look of the model.

Why I have been waiting I have been looking through the instructions and parts of my next boat model haha!!

[Jonny 007]

Small update with pictures!

I have installed the bowsprit and lashed it to the mast.

And I have quickly soaked the sails in some Earl Grey to add a hint of colour

It’s added a slight hue to the edges. Still waiting for them to dry to see if I’ll go a bit more...

[Jonny 007]

It’s now time to start rigging my little jolly boat.

I have decided that I will add extra rigging to my model to make it look s bit more interesting. I have ordered some extra blocks, some rigging hooks, cleats and some belaying pins to help.

This was not the original plan but looking at other builds on here it really helps lift the model.

I ordered this book to help with future kits and will add some elements to my jolly boat.

Some of my rigging will be simple for looks and will have no actual use in the real world/may not be historically correct, but only you and I will know!

I also plan to do a step by step guide so that it may help other newbies.

[Jonny 007]

Welcome to Jonny 007’s newbie attempt at rigging a jolly boat.

If, like me you find the rigging instructions vague at best with this kit you are not alone!

So this will be my step by step guide to how I attempted the rigging.

I also invite any tips or tricks that may help a newbie rig a jolly boat. Including corrections for terminology!

 

First up is the rigging for the jib sails.

From the pictures they require a twist at the top. I did this and then held it tight with a bull dog clip and added some watered down PVA to lock it in place.

I then looped and glued them to the bowsprit and added a bit of weight to add to the tension.

Once the watered down PVA dries I’ll do some lashing.

Edited May 2, 2020 by Jonny 007

[Jonny 007]

So this is niggly...

My first attempt at rigging dead eyes. 

First I connect the bottom dead eye to an eyelet. Next up I used a dab of superglue to locate the top dead eye roughly where I want it, allowing a bit extra for it to pull closer with tension.

Once the super glue dried, I used PVA and a clamp to hold the line in place.

Next up was using the ‘pin threader thingy’ to start pulling the line through.

I need practise doing this.

Half way there!

[Jonny 007]

I did the port, then starboard side dead eyes. They did not turn out to flash so I decided to move to something else to rest my nerves.

I have also ordered some extra bits and bobs for my rigging which should arrive this week.

In the mean time I thought I would hoist the jib sails.

This involved adding a double block on the mast above the (insert actual term) and then adding little brass eyes to the sail cloth. Was a bit niggly at first and part of my wondered if I should have added them to the rope first.

But all it took was a bit of trial and error but in the end just used to pairs of small needle nose pliers and I was away.

Although one of the 3mm brass rings pinged off into the abyss never to be seen again.

I feel that 8 rings per sail is not enough, and then picture on the box shows a lot more. So I ordered a lot more.

8 a sail gets them hoisted though.

And the first sail is hoisted! Hooray!

 

[Jonny 007]

First sails hoisted. It’s pretty exciting!

A couple of pictures to document the momentous occasion haha.

I also had a bit of a tidy up of my work station...

Profile picture.

Now it’s back to rigging the dead eyes. 

[catopower]

You're doing a fine job, Johnny 007. Congratulations on raising sail!

[Modelkiwi]

On 3/23/2020 at 8:29 PM, Jonny 007 said:

A wee bit of colour changes the whole look.

At this point I want to say I am really enjoying the build process. I have so far built it pretty much to the plans and it is turning out okay. For a first build, I’m quite pleased with how it looks. Sure, it’s no master class. But I have to remember not to get too caught up by how awesome other builds are.

Patience and perseverance is a virtue, if you stay the course long enough you will become a Virtuoso 

[HardeeHarHar]

Your launch looks awesome!!!  Full speed ahead Mate!  Kiwi style with everything “right-side-up”.  Very nice work!!!!

[Jonny 007]

@HardeeHarHar and @Modelkiwi thanks for stopping by and kind words of encouragement.

And thanks to everyone for all the likes!

[Jonny 007]

I’m waiting on the post person to deliver some of my extra goodies I ordered, including some timber so I can finish up. Sooo close now.

I finished rigging the dead eyes. It wasn’t till I did the fourth one that it looked like they are supposed to. Practise will make perfect I guess. I also ran into the problem of adding tension to one line, could cause another line to slacken off. It only happen to one line (and only a little) and you can’t notice it. But it will be something I keep an eye on in the future.

I’ve also been looking at my technique and it might not be the best option for rigging larger ships, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

One is longer than the others, but it was also the neatest. At this point I am going to leave it as is. My rational is that this is a learning curve, and this will show my learning.

While I’m waiting on the postal person I started wrapping up some of the other details. Like lashing the oars.

I have also had a look through Chuck’s rigging guide for the Midway Longboat. It has really cleared up a few rigging questions I had. My plan is still to add a lot of additional rigging, but this is just going to be for fun and to add some extra detail.

Edited May 10, 2020 by Jonny 007

[Jonny 007]

Some of my goodies have shown up. Still waiting on wood though so I can finish.

Not all of this is for the Jolly Boat. Some will be used on a future build too. But I guess it can’t hurt to have spare bits lying around.

[Jonny 007]

I have been waiting for the post person to bring me some supplies from a well known shop in south west England.

However, it doesn’t seem like they will ever arrive now which sucks the big one. Most of the bits were extras to add a bit of extra rigging detail. So not the end of the world (But was an end to the $50 I had spent). They may still show up sometime this century.

The big bummer was I had ordered some replacement dowel to remake my boom and spar thingy so I could use the sails as is. No dowel, no finish

 

I then came up with a plan B:

This involved a trip out to the garage and a visit to the box of previous attempts at model boat building. I had a look through the bits left over from the ‘President’ build and low and behold, there was some 4mm dowel!

There are also some other bits and bobs that may come in handy for future bashing.

One thing I noticed, is the quality of the Mantua thread is vastly superior to that of the supplied AL stuff.

So much so that it will be something I look at for future builds. The Mantua stuff isn’t all fluffy like the AL stuff.

I might redo the rigging completely on this build sometime.

With my newly robbed dowel I proceeded to cut each part to fit the sail not the plans.

One advantage of doing things twice is the small improvements you can make. Practise makes perfect!

On my first attempt I had already glued in the yoke (?) Which made it really fiddle to fit in the drill and I ran the risk of damaging the wood.

This time I did it the way everyone else does. Cut the wood longer than you need so you have a piece that goes into the drill that can be cut off later.

Also, this timber was much easier to work with. It’s a darker wood (walnut?) but it sands up beautifully.

No lathe required! I just used this well documented method. It works remarkably well and I thoroughly enjoy making these.

nice to be making progress again!

 

[Daliab]

Sail is looking good. Working on a 738 Mantua Victory but have the jolly boat in line for the next build. I to would like to try my hand at kit bashing also. Keeping and eye on your progress.

[Jonny 007]

The instructions are bit vague about how to rig the sail, so I took what I hope is the common sense approach.

Im going to do most of the rigging off ship.

First up, a knot! Held in place with a dab of super glue.

Rig a rig a rosies...

And that’s the bottom done!

Time for the top.

[Jonny 007]

I rigged the sail and left a little extra thread on so I could get a wee glimpse of what she might look like...

So, without further ado, I give you my Jolly Boat with sails!

Tomorrow I’ll take it down and tie on all the correct and extra rigging I have planned. But for tonight I will just bask in all her glory.

I have thoroughly enjoyed myself so far and I am quite pleased with the results thus far. Even if I do say so myself.

[Jonny 007]

So I have worked out how my rigging will look. I’ve take ideas from other build logs and different models.

I’ve added some extra eyelets to accomodate the extra rigging points.

The back stays still need blocks added and the line from the back of the boom will get a block on the mast.

But this is kinda what she will look like finished. Sure, there’s still a bit to go but this is mock up number 2.

[Jonny 007]

I have basically finished this now to a point where I will stop. Going to try some finishing touches and will take some better pictures tomorrow.

I will also write a bit of a review.

But I must say, I am thrilled with what I have achieved, and super happy that I have basically finished my first model boat.

More pictures to come (tomorrow)

 

[Major]

I would be thrilled if it was my model mate. Well done, amazing work.

What would your overall rating of this kit be? I am about to get my own.

Regards
Tom

[Jonny 007]

There is one or two small things left to do. But basically finished.

I modified the rigging here by adding a few extra double blocks, which sort of matched the rigging I had seen on other blood logs

I added a grapple and made my first rope coil using the masking tape method. I also filled the bucket with PVA and painted the top with blue ink.

I used a tooth-pick and the mast head piece to make a new tiller. I also added that standard upgrade of adding a brass rail over the tiller to tack that boom tackle. (Enough brass in the kit to do this)

Still to do:

1. Nail off the rubber brass parts

2. More 2mm bras rings to The the sails

3. Rig the boom and gaff to the mast (this is now a bit niggly)

4. Add some rope coils

[Jonny 007]

When I think back to this picture, I am really pleased with how this turned out.

 

[Jonny 007]

I have really enjoyed building this model kit. I have basically built it as per the kit instructions. I have added some extra rigging details, but otherwise this is 'as per kit'

I do have a couple of observations I would like to make:

• Before building this or any kit set, I highly recommend reading through other build logs. This could help you decide if the kit is suitable or nor.
• Start your own build log. This is a must. This will allow other members to follow along, but will also be a place where you can get help or advice if needed.

There are also a few things about this build which may help others:

• The main sail is bigger than the plans. It seems this is true of other builds too. When making the boom and gaff, cut these to suit the sail, not the plans.
• I would add some small balsa blocks to the bow to assist with planking. There is a picture in the instructions that show these but they are never mentioned. They would be hidden but would greatly help with seating the planks at the bow. This is a single plank on frame model which means there is no second planking to hid behind. The bow seems to be the trickiest part.
• Add a small rabbet at the stern. Otherwise you could end up with a visible 'step'

All up this model took me about 4 months to build. But this was a very casual time frame. During this time I learnt many valuable skills and techniques which I can use on my next build.

The kit does require some basic modelling skills and you could build it with a very basic tool set.

 

Final things to note:

• The quick build time was great. This meant I was able to finish in months not years.
• Its small size means there are several places I can display it.
• Although one day I would love to build a fully rigged ship (such as a frigate) I know that I have a lot of learning to do before I have the skills for such a build.
• I need to learn some better knots for tying blocks.
• My next two builds, and possible the third will all be smaller ships. Such as schooners and cutters. Because i like small ships!

 

So, that's it. Onto my Ballahoo.

 

Would I recommend this kit to others? Well I would certainly recommend a model of a long boat or jolly boat. Possibly the model Shipways one.

But failing that then yes. I enjoyed building this and I am proud of the result.

[Jonny 007]

@Major Tom, I like the model and I have enjoyed building it. There are better long boat kits out there but this still builds into a nice little boat.

There are some much better build logs on here that show just what cab be achieved with this kit.

I took a look through your Hannah build and if you can build that, you will be fine with this kit.

 

/offtopic: I used to play a lot of 6th edition Warhammer when I lived in London. Even went to a couple of grand tournaments at Nottingham.

[Major]

1 hour ago, Jonny 007 said:

@Major Tom, I like the model and I have enjoyed building it. There are better long boat kits out there but this still builds into a nice little boat.

There are some much better build logs on here that show just what cab be achieved with this kit.

I took a look through your Hannah build and if you can build that, you will be fine with this kit.

 

/offtopic: I used to play a lot of 6th edition Warhammer when I lived in London. Even went to a couple of grand tournaments at Nottingham.

Thank you for your input mate. It certainly makes the choice easier. I looked through various kits and couldn’t make my mind up. Now I just need to make shopping list and order the kit. Your log will be of great help I’m sure. 
 

Looking at your starting and the final photos, it was worth the effort as she looks amazing. 

/offropic: I never played Warhammer - I had one demo game in store, but didn’t really get to it. I still like painting though, last year I put my minis into GW painting competitions and even won first stage of Everchosen 😊. 

 

[Jonny 007]

I would like to state for the record that both my long awaited packages form a well know shop in the southwest of England have arrived. I had previously given up hope of them ever arriving.

But the post person delivered the second package today.

I do intend to improve the rigging on this but I will come back to it at a later date. I'll also be needing some improved rope and a rope server.

So for now it remains finished.

 

[GrandpaPhil]

Congratulations!  Well done!

[Voyageur]

I just revived your build here and wish to congratulate you on this fine craft you have done. I appreciate your detailed and thoughtful comments on the build. 
Bravo Zulu! (Well done)