ErnieL Posted May 5, 2020 Share #1 Posted May 5, 2020 Aaaand we’re off. My first sailing ship model in 40 years, and my first wood ship/boat model in 30 years. This is will be an experience, no doubt. I slaved away for a grueling 45 minutes and achieved his: chris watton, Gregory, Jonny 007 and 9 others 12 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted May 5, 2020 Share #2 Posted May 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, ErnieL said: . I slaved away for a grueling 45 minutes and achieved this: Now that's funny! You've made a great choice of models to get back into the hobby. I look forward to following your build. Good luck, Ernie, and enjoy the ride! Edwardkenway 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted May 5, 2020 Share #3 Posted May 5, 2020 That's the easy bit done..........now? 😆 ErnieL and Edwardkenway 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted May 5, 2020 Share #4 Posted May 5, 2020 Great start 😆 I'll pull up my seat for the rest! ErnieL 1 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, James H said: That's the easy bit done..........now? 😆 EASY!? I actually broke a sweat! Edwardkenway 1 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted May 6, 2020 Well we had a couple hours this evening and so far I seem not to have cocked it up. But have no fear, there’s plenty of time ahead for that. GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway, BobG and 6 others 9 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted May 6, 2020 Share #7 Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ErnieL said: Well we had a couple hours this evening and so far I seem not to have cocked it up. But have no fear, there’s plenty of time ahead for that. Is this a dry fit? Bulkhead 10 should be the other way round with the door opening on the port side, although I don't think it really matters. ErnieL, Jonny 007 and JpR62 3 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) Nope, it’s glued all nice and tight. I had the wrong end pegged for the bow. I’ll cut a door into the bulkhead I guess, oops. I figured the sharp pointy high high end was the bow. 😕 Edited May 6, 2020 by ErnieL Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted May 6, 2020 Share #9 Posted May 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, ErnieL said: I’ll cut a door into the bulkhead I guess, oops. 😕 Nah, don't bother. You can't see it even when you leave a grate off (well...barely!). It's certainly not going to impact on any construction anyway. 🤣 clearway and BobG 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 6, 2020 Share #10 Posted May 6, 2020 one of the reasons why i read destruction manuals till my brains dribble out of my ears before touching any wood🤪😁 ErnieL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted May 6, 2020 Share #11 Posted May 6, 2020 Welcome aboard Ernie. The quality of kit models has come a long way in the last 40 years and you've picked a particularly good one. 48 minutes ago, clearway said: one of the reasons why i read destruction manuals till my brains dribble out of my ears before touching any wood🤪😁 So do I, but I still make mistakes as you'll see from my Speedy log - must be an age thing! Derek clearway and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted May 6, 2020 Share #12 Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) It really doesn't matter about the 'door' opening on bulkhead 10, it is only there in case anyone wanted to add detail to the lower deck. It cannot be seen once the main deck is in place, so don't worry about that. Edited May 6, 2020 by chris watton Ryland Craze, BobG and ErnieL 3 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, clearway said: one of the reasons why i read destruction manuals till my brains dribble out of my ears before touching any wood🤪😁 🤣 apparently I had none left to dribble out. It even says “FRONT” on it and I still goobered it up. I really need to stop sniffing glue clearway, Cabbie, chris watton and 1 other 4 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 6, 2020 Share #14 Posted May 6, 2020 This is supposed to be fun, seems like you’re enjoying it. Congrats on the cradle, excellent work! ErnieL and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, glbarlow said: This is supposed to be fun, seems like you’re enjoying it. Congrats on the cradle, excellent work! Hahaha. Apparently it was about as complicated as I’m capable of handling on my own without professional assistance. Seriously though, this will be fun. Edited May 6, 2020 by ErnieL glbarlow and Ryland Craze 2 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 6, 2020 Share #16 Posted May 6, 2020 I’m thinking of taking mine to a carpentry shop to do the fairing, May not work out though😂🤣 ErnieL and clearway 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted May 6, 2020 8 hours ago, glbarlow said: I’m thinking of taking mine to a carpentry shop to do the fairing, May not work out though😂🤣 Don't give me any ideas, man. Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyageur Posted May 6, 2020 Share #18 Posted May 6, 2020 I'm looking forward to following this build. Hope you don't mind! ErnieL 1 Quote We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore is a habit, not an act. ~ Aristotle I could carry, paddle, walk and sing with any man I ever saw. I have been twenty-four years a canoe man, and forty-one years in service; no portage was ever too long for me, fifty songs could I sing. I have saved the lives of ten voyageurs, have had twelve wives and six running dogs. I spent all of my money in pleasure. Were I young again, I would spend my life the same way over. There is no life so happy as a voyageur's life! ~ The Voyageur, Grace Lee Nute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Voyageur said: I'm looking forward to following this build. Hope you don't mind! The more the merrier! Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Spent a bit of time on Speedy tonight, roughed the bevels on the bulkheads and tomorrow, I’ll lightly hit it with a long board to remove any rounded edges. It’s alot of fun so far and I’m relearning some old skills along the way. The dust ain’t too good for the other half of my hobby, however. Personally, being that I’m so out of practice with planking, I’d love to enlarge the filler blocks a bit, but I’ve decided to trust Chris Watton. He certainly knows what he’s doing so far. Edited May 7, 2020 by ErnieL GrandpaPhil, ccoyle, DelF and 9 others 12 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted May 7, 2020 Share #21 Posted May 7, 2020 She's coming along real nice. You'll have caught me up pretty soon 🤣 chris watton and ErnieL 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted May 8, 2020 James, I’m truly enjoying this so far, and I must be the only guy in the world actually looking forward to trying the coppering process. I just have an odd feeling I’m going to enjoy it. I almost overlaps with the other half of my model building life. I certainly owe you a bottle or three of fine highland nectar. Edwardkenway 1 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted May 8, 2020 But I continue piecing the hull frame together, trying not to booger the thing up. So far, Gorilla Glue seems to be working fine for me. I’m trying to make sure the edges are beveled as much as possible now because I have nightmares about gouging the MDF with my sanding sticks. Edwardkenway, Ryland Craze, James H and 6 others 9 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted May 8, 2020 I was under the impression that the stern board ribs were MDF and fragile. So imagine my surprise when I found these little gems in the kit. They’re plywood, and nice plywood, too. I expect they’ll be much stronger but Han MDF, and a very scale thickness as well. clearway, Ryland Craze, ccoyle and 6 others 9 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted May 8, 2020 Share #25 Posted May 8, 2020 She's coming along beautifully. Yes, the MDF stern frames were changed for the birch ply, as an extra insurance policy against breakage. ErnieL 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 8, 2020 Share #26 Posted May 8, 2020 Looks like you haven’t yet truly enjoyed the fairing experience. You haven’t finished until you’re knee deep in sawdust. ErnieL, Voyageur and clearway 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted May 8, 2020 Share #27 Posted May 8, 2020 The 2mm is 4-ply, and the 3mm for the MS Flirt is 6-ply, very strong, but not cheap - but worth it for peace of mind. I do listen, and endeavour to improve certain aspects as and when I can.. You have made a great start, Ernie. Just take your time, and prepping is half the battle. glbarlow, clearway, BobG and 3 others 6 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 8, 2020 Share #28 Posted May 8, 2020 I don’t know if Chris’ instructions mention it: run a batten along the hull at various heights, when it smoothly touches every bulkhead bow to stern you’ve achieved a faired boat. Leave the char on the trailing edge of the several bow and stern bulkheads to not lose the shape of the hull and have a lopsided boat. Although maybe you want a lopsided boat, being from Ana.🤣 ErnieL and chris watton 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted May 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, glbarlow said: I don’t know if Chris’ instructions mention it: run a batten along the hull at various heights, when it smoothly touches every bulkhead bow to stern you’ve achieved a faired boat. Leave the char on the trailing edge of the several bow and stern bulkheads to not lose the shape of the hull and have a lopsided boat. Although maybe you want a lopsided boat, being from Ana.🤣 Thanks, Glenn. For me, the thing I'm experiencing with this kit is that because of the stellar reputation Vanguard has developed in such a short time, combined with effortless parts fit, I could easily find myself lulled into false sense of security and very quickly paint myself into a corner. Other than my last plastic build, I've never so looked forward to getting home at night and building something. And regarding Anna, we were a great little country town of a couple thousand folks for many years, but it's sure changed lately. And not for the better glbarlow 1 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 8, 2020 Share #30 Posted May 8, 2020 The DFW metro area is reaching out ... ErnieL 1 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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