Gokstad c. 900 AD by bigpetr - 1:48 - CARD - viking ship

[Boxbuilds]

I think you nailed the color of the hull.  And the "carvings" along the strakes are well done.  Look forward to the next chapters.

[bigpetr]

Jig is ready to serve, I forgot to include few important guidelines to the jig, so I had to plot them by hand:

 

Then I assembled some visible ribs and aplied the grooves to the edges. Some test paint was used  to see if the grooves will be visible when painted . They are, so I will continue to do them on the rest of the ship.

[bigpetr]

Ship attached to the jig

 

and planking template is prepared to be printed:

[Louie da fly]

3 hours ago, bigpetr said:

and planking template is prepared to be printed

 

 

Oh, wow!

[PhilB]

How did you come up with the planking template? That's really impressive. Did it simply derive from the CAD work?

I'm already thinking of trying to do proper planking on my next ship, but have never tried to use a CAD application.

[bigpetr]

Template is a result of my CAD work as are (and will be) all other parts of the ship. CAD is realy useful for this, because you can solve all inconsistencies in blueprints and generate templates that fits together nicely.

[bigpetr]

Planking journey has started, first plank in place, fits perfectly:

 

Here are planks in two stages of making proces. Laminated templates and cut out planks. Planks are laminated to desired thickness in a way that ends are roughly two times thinner than the middle part, same as the original planks. Also not every plank has the same thickness. In this scale differences are few tenths od millimeter, so I hope it will be at least felt if not seen.😀

[Louie da fly]

I'm enjoying following this one - if only to see the physical results of all that theoretical preparation you did.

[Srodbro]

A question about your planks:

Is the shape of an individual plank the same from stem to midship and from midship to stern?

Love  your build. Trying to figure out this new emoji thing to give a “like”. 

[bigpetr]

I am glad you like it, friends.

 

No, the shape of the plank is not same from stem to midship and from midship to stern. I 3d modeled planks to fit all actual ribs so they dictates the shape of the whole plank. Also stem and stern has different shapes so endings of the planks is different there also.

 

My planks represents the shape of the ship as displayed in musemum today, witch, as I learned receantly, probably do not represent the shape of the ship from its active years of duty due to 1000 year in the ground, wood shrinking and romantic ideas of archeologists from first half of 20th century who reconstructed the ship for display.  Lets hope it will recieve the same treatment from nowdays archeologists as Oseberg ship and we will get the shape closer to the initial state of the ship.😀

[mtaylor]

23 hours ago, Srodbro said:

Love  your build. Trying to figure out this new emoji thing to give a “like”. 

 

Lower right hand corner of each post...  there's a "thumbs up".  If you hover over it, a couple of icons will also display incase you want to use one of them.  Just click on which ever one you want to use.

[bigpetr]

Few more planks added, red ribs will be visible, deck boards will be removed there:

 

Everything fits fine so far:

[KrisWood]

Looking good! I'm going to have to hurry my own project along to catch up! 😀

[bigpetr]

Strake 9 out of 16 si done. So far no adjustments to the templates needed. Long phase of template preparing pays off.

 

 

It took five months to get to the point where I was with my abandoned first try to build Gokstad from paper kit, not so bad😀

[Louie da fly]

40 minutes ago, bigpetr said:

Long phase of template preparing pays off.

 

 

I couldn't agree more. All that work has really produced superb results. That's such a beautiful shape.

[bigpetr]

I have to attach another rib to guide the planks, because planking reach to the top of the small rib underneath it.

 

I have ploted decorative triangles to the top planks. They were probably painted. Are there some information on how the color on viking ships was done? Did they apply protective tar coat and then the colour, or just the colour layer? Or colour and then tar? Or do they mixed color pigment with tar? On museum replicas it looks like just colour layer.

[PhilB]

Wow! That hull is looking good! Planning all the strakes with CAD really pays off.

I'm eager to see the next steps.

[Louie da fly]

On 10/25/2020 at 10:57 PM, bigpetr said:

re there some information on how the color on viking ships was done? Did they apply protective tar coat and then the colour, or just the colour layer? Or colour and then tar? Or do they mixed color pigment with tar?

Very good question - unfortunately i don't know the answer to this one; it would probably be in some archaeological report somewhere. Does it make a difference to how yo're doing the model?

[bigpetr]

  Not realy louie😀. I just need to decide, how i will depict the colour of triangles. If plain or with some weathering or dirty from the tar.

Edited October 27, 2020 by bigpetr

[Binho]

Your ship is looking amazing! The templating really payed off, and I like the decorative moulding on the planks.

 

On 10/25/2020 at 4:57 AM, bigpetr said:

They were probably painted. Are there some information on how the color on viking ships was done? Did they apply protective tar coat and then the colour, or just the colour layer? Or colour and then tar? Or do they mixed color pigment with tar? On museum replicas it looks like just colour layer.

 

From the Viking Ship Museum website:

 

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The paint used by the Vikings as the basis for decoration work of this kind consisted of inorganic colour pigments with casein tempera as the binder. Casein can be obtained from, for example, buttermilk and one of its advantages is that it can be directly applied to tarred planking where it lasts for a considerable time, even in Danish weather conditions.

 

So it seems like it was applied to an initial layer of tar. I'm assuming any subsequent layers of tar applied over the years as maintenance weren't applied over the paint, but the paint itself was just reapplied.  Here are some pictures from the Helge Ask Guild website (Skuldelev 5 replica) of them repainting and re-tarring the ship. The bottom paint used here is a modern copper based one I believe, the Vikings appear to have used seal blubber tar below the waterline

 

 

 

 

[bigpetr]

Thank you very much for Info binho. Now it is clear to me how it probably looked.

[bigpetr]

Firs I cut oar holes to the planks:

 

then attach it to the hull:

 

I did some tests how to paint the triangles:

This is one posibility (score lines with blade so the paint will stop at it). Other idea is to cut individual triangles, paint them and glue them together. But maybe it will look too "precise". I need to test it.

[bigpetr]

I was thinking to make more planks with color, like this (images are ilustrational - model is from Jan van den Heuvel)

or this:

 

since there are no traces of colour pigments on the planks it could look anyhow.

[Louie da fly]

Beautiful work on the planking, Bigpetr. That view from the bow is just amazing - what an exquisite shape!

 

I like what you're doing with the triangles. If you can get it to work without the paint "bleeding", I think scoring the lines is probably the better way to go.

 

Regarding the colour scheme, I like to top one with the single black stripe better than the bottom one with two. But that's just me.

[bigpetr]

Thank You Louie, I like the single black strip more too, it is decent and nicely highlits the triangle strip

[Martocticvs]

Very impressive work! Looking great, and all that early effort is paying off nicely

[Binho]

Wow, that front view is looking amazing! Great work. My vote is for the single extra strip too

[Binho]

Hey @bigpetr, if you haven't seen it I think you will love this: https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=LCWEGGrUnpi

 

It's the Gokstad exhibition room. It allows you to walk around the ship in 3D with fairly high resolution photos! Next best thing to actually being there.

[bigpetr]

Thank you for link Binho, i know about it and use it a lot for planking details.

[bigpetr]

The progres was little slower lately. I had to figure out how to tackle color paint of the top plank. Top planks have rivets and are ready for paint: