Lady Nelson by Jasseji - Amati/Victory Models - 1:64 Scale

[Jasseji]

current state, opening the Gun and Sweep ports:

[Jasseji]

Today had a lot of work at work so managed only to open the Gunports:

 

Bit of cleanup required on them still, but will do that when the bulwark inner lining is complete.

 

I'm procrastrinating with the second planking

[drjeckl]

Looks good.  Take your time finishing it off.  Treat each plank as a separate project and focus on the details,

 

[Jasseji]

8 hours ago, drjeckl said:

Looks good.  Take your time finishing it off.  Treat each plank as a separate project and focus on the details,

 

Thank you, this is actually my first real planking (other 2 attempts never made it past the main Wale line) and i am overall happy with it.

Yes, i screwed up 2 or 3 things, but overall i like the result

[Ian B]

looking good-- keep it up

[glbarlow]

If you aren’t screwing a few things up you’re not learning. Adapt, Improvise, Overcome, this is why we do this for such opportunities. 

[Jasseji]

The Admiral demands progress, so planked the deck (i know, no edge planks, waterway etc. "It's supposed to be that way")

[Jasseji]

Deck Planking and Inner Bulwarks (almost) ready for sanding:

[Jasseji]

Getting some bleedthrough despite the masking tape, but i do plan to add some kind of waterway so no concern here.

 

I like how the color turned out actually (it's Vallejo Red 70.926)

 

 

Still havent touched the outer Planking...

[glbarlow]

Add a thin 1/32 strip as a waterway and the paint bleed will be covered. 

[Jasseji]

32 minutes ago, glbarlow said:

Add a thin 1/32 strip as a waterway and the paint bleed will be covered. 

Yes, That is the Plan (1mm strip) 

[Jasseji]

Added some fittings and waterways, gratings were done (partially) by my 5-year old son

[yvesvidal]

5 hours ago, Jasseji said:

Added some fittings and waterways, gratings were done (partially) by my 5-year old son

 

This is promising. I came to build models, after watching my father for hours and hours, as a kid. What a wonderful teaching !

 

Yves

[Jasseji]

Please ignore the Glue-Stains and scratches on the Planks, i am allowing my Son to help me out a bit and accidents happen.

 

This post will be purely self-critique

 

I have made some errors during Fairing

- I was afraid to remove too much material

- Ended up removing too little from the Bow Filler

- I followed the Instructions from the Booklet:

    - Roughly faired the bulkheads and Bow Fillers

    - Glued them on

    - Glued the Prow/Keel assembly

    - Continued fairing the bulkheads 

 

I should have left the Keel/Prow assembly off the model for the whole fairing process, even try to do the first planking with the prow removed, the Problem is now, there is no space on the Prow to fit the main wale.

 

I see 4 Possible Solutions:

- Ignore and hope noone will notice

- Leave the Wale off and hope that noone will notice

- Try to sand it (but then i will definitely have sand away the walnut plank, i have decided to paint her anyway, so maybe...)

- Glue some 1mm planking strip to the front face of the Prow (and to the bottom of the Keel), in order to add some substance there + cover it on the sides with Walnut veneer 

[Gregory]

This will be great practice for your Sphinx..

[VTHokiEE]

I’m not an expert so take this advice with a grain of salt. I am working on the NRG Half Hull and the instructions show the wale tapering into the rabbet as described here (post 52):

 

 

Could that be an option?

[Jasseji]

11 minutes ago, VTHokiEE said:

I’m not an expert so take this advice with a grain of salt. I am working on the NRG Half Hull and the instructions show the wale tapering into the rabbet as described here (post 52):

 

 

Could that be an option?

Indeed, i was considering something like this

 

I'm way off from this yet, finishing the planking requires that i sit down over this for an hour at least undisturbed per session, for the moment i am doing things i can do for 5 minutes, lay aside and then pick up again half an hour later - doesnt work with planking that way

 

[glbarlow]

Agree the best approach is first sand down the planking, you have a lot of thickness there you can remove. Then thin the wales as it nears the stem to be almost equal to the planking. This in fact is how the wales are done on my Cheerful by design if you want to see an example. 
 

For your next model: you should have started tapering the planks right away and not had those full width ones there (referring to where the dark ones start, not those above deck level). 
 

Lady Nelson is a good first model, but at least in mine (done as a refresher after a three year layoff) the materials were very shoddy. Your next Vanguard model will be more fun. Use LN had a learning platform and the give it to your son.  😁

Edited August 27, 2021 by glbarlow

[Jasseji]

8 minutes ago, glbarlow said:

For your next model: you should have started tapering the planks right away and not had those full width ones there. 
 

I had conflicting info on that one to be honest, saw some versions where people made 3 full widht, i just made 2 (the 1st one ist actually still part of the Bulwark planking)

 

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 Lady Nelson is a good first model, but at least in mine (done as a refresher after a three year layoff) the materials were very shoddy. Your next Vanguard model will be more fun.  😁

 

Yes, the Walnut is weird, i cant get any 2 planks to stay the same color after they touch a bit of water or glue even tho i have sorted them - as i said, this will get painted over, i am thinking Ochre/Black Paint scheme.

 

I want to finish that damn Planking and fittings to move to the Sphinx, Masting will be done after i get clearance from The Admiral to purchase a Lathe

 

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Use LN had a learning platform and the give it to your son.

He already plays with it, i rather he does with this than the Sphinx

Edited August 27, 2021 by Jasseji

[Jasseji]

no progress on planking but doing the Guns to sit and wait (barrel test-fixed with Matte Varnish, will see if it holds)

 

I hate Cast Carriages

 

 

Test-Fit:

Edited August 28, 2021 by Jasseji

[Gregory]

3 hours ago, Jasseji said:

I hate Cast Carriages

They really look pretty good.

We know the difference, but how close is your target audience going to be, and will they know the difference?

 

I struggle over details that I know are important to me, but at some point I have to let it go..

[Jasseji]

53 minutes ago, Gregory said:

They really look pretty good.

We know the difference, but how close is your target audience going to be, and will they know the difference?

 

I struggle over details that I know are important to me, but at some point I have to let it go..

 

me being a Blackpoweder Artillerist myself am a bit Anal about guns.

 

But i will propably leave the swivels unpainted, although they should be easier to do 

[glbarlow]

The swivels are horribly out of scale, I left them off

[Jasseji]

39 minutes ago, glbarlow said:

The swivels are horribly out of scale, I left them off

Indeed, might be an option

[Jasseji]

Planking down to the Waterline on Starboard side.

 

I feel that the Limewood first layer was easier, the Walnut somehow doesnt want to cooperate

 

Sanding will be done when weather outside permits (Tuesday hopefully).

 

I'm tempted to experiment with another planking technique below the Waterline (never tried the "wrong" approach with drop planks and cutting planks to shape where they meet the wales)

 

Like shown here on the "Incorrect" side:

 

 

[PRS]

Yes I found the walnut was pretty hard to make the bends and it broke easier. If it was thinner it might have been easier to do.

 

But since it is so thick it leaves a lot of material to sand

[BenD]

1 hour ago, Jasseji said:

Walnut somehow doesnt want to cooperate

It never does.

 

I found that Chucks method works even for walnut.  This method helps immensely with bow planking. 

 

You bend the planks laterally then clamp them. Take a blow dryer to them for 2-3 minutes and they keep there shape.

[Jasseji]

30 minutes ago, BenD said:

It never does.

 

I found that Chucks method works even for walnut.  This method helps immensely with bow planking. 

 

You bend the planks laterally then clamp them. Take a blow dryer to them for 2-3 minutes and they keep there shape.

I use a travel iron and a curved shape to clamp it around it

[Jasseji]

Like this:

 

still, they refuse to keep the shape, also they tend to snap back to weird curves after i do the bending to fit around the hull.

 

Anyways, i have already decides, that the hull will be painted, now i am experimenting with a cheat-Technique below the waterline which is very fast but definitely not how it should be

 

[glbarlow]

3 minutes ago, Jasseji said:

a cheat-Technique

Not going to learn that way.