Mary Rose by Mr Pleasant - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:80

[Baker]

And, great work Mark 👍

[allanyed]

Thank you Patrick. .  I would like to read more.  What is the publication you copied in your post?

Thanks again!

[Ferrus Manus]

17 hours ago, Mr Pleasant said:

I've done the stays with "mice" although the instructions didn't call for them

I did that on my Golden Hinde build. I absolutely DESPISE making mice, and i don't have a ropewalk. Im going to have to make a million of them for my Spanish Galleon. 

[Baker]

5 hours ago, allanyed said:

Thank you Patrick. .  I would like to read more.  What is the publication you copied in your post?

Thanks again!

 

 

[allanyed]

THANK YOU Patrick, much appreciated.😀

Allan

[Mr Pleasant]

Hi All

Thanks for the comments and likes.

Small update on progress...

Cannons are now installed but not without a few small issues shown below.

The plans asked for dummy cannon blocks to be installed at the framing stage in the pre defined slots  shown in the top left image with the intent that holes are drilled into the blocks to accept the dummy cannons.

Top right image, the wood gauge shows the depth from the dummy block to the edge of the frame (pencil mark). The unpainted part of the cannon is of a lesser diameter than the barrel and is to fit in the hole drilled in the block.  However following this course of action would lead to the cannons being far recessed inside the hull.  To overcome this blocks were made and the cannons fixed to these to effectively increase the length of the cannon as shown in the bottom image.  The assembly was then glued against the dummy cannon blocks....the thread was was used as a recovery mechanism in case the cannons fell inside the hull whilst the glue was setting

Cannons are now installed and I'm onto the running rigging

 

 

 

Thanks for dropping by

 

Mark

[Louie da fly]

Very nice work, mate!

 

On 6/24/2023 at 5:39 PM, Mr Pleasant said:

the thread was was used as a recovery mechanism in case the cannons fell inside the hull whilst the glue was setting

That's brilliant! Now why didn't I think of that?

 

Steven

[Fishooks]

On 8/23/2022 at 8:09 PM, Mr Pleasant said:

Hi All

Must be time for another update.....

Had a small issue with the shrouds fouling on the sides as shown below

 

Not sure how this happened as I haven't deviated from the plans and having checked the photo (below) that came on the instruction manual it's not clear if there is an issue with the model itself or not and particularly the shrouds further away from the Main mast and around the Mizzen mast.

 

 

Regardless, I needed to fix it, the channels are epoxied and pinned so I couldn't remove them, the mast was also epoxied and not moving, the height increase in the mast to clear the sides would have been significant in any case.  Only real option I had was to add material to widen the channels, luckily there was sufficient spare wood from where the channels had been cut from.

 

Next was on to fixing the shroud dead eyes and this was accomplished using a jig with a horizontal line drawn on to fix a constant level...I know some people prefer spacers but I find this works for me.  

 

 

 

The dead eyes for the channels are only held by rope and these had to be stitched prior to seizing as no amount of glue, shellac, varnish would take the strain once the shrouds were pulled tight....following photos show where I'm up to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking in

 

Mark

One factor working against you is that the kit masts are shorter than the correct scale by 51mm. I dont suggest this would be enough extra height to clear the side rails but it could only help. I am planning to add in the 51mm to the lowest section of the mast and then see what the effect is.

[Mr Pleasant]

Will be interesting to see if this solves the problem entirely or if you still need to widen the channels.  If you're not doing a build log a pm would be nice when you get to that stage to satisfy my curiosity.

 

Mark

[Fishooks]

On 8/23/2022 at 8:09 PM, Mr Pleasant said:

Hi All

Must be time for another update.....

Had a small issue with the shrouds fouling on the sides as shown below

 

Not sure how this happened as I haven't deviated from the plans and having checked the photo (below) that came on the instruction manual it's not clear if there is an issue with the model itself or not and particularly the shrouds further away from the Main mast and around the Mizzen mast.

 

 

Regardless, I needed to fix it, the channels are epoxied and pinned so I couldn't remove them, the mast was also epoxied and not moving, the height increase in the mast to clear the sides would have been significant in any case.  Only real option I had was to add material to widen the channels, luckily there was sufficient spare wood from where the channels had been cut from.

 

Next was on to fixing the shroud dead eyes and this was accomplished using a jig with a horizontal line drawn on to fix a constant level...I know some people prefer spacers but I find this works for me.  

 

 

 

The dead eyes for the channels are only held by rope and these had to be stitched prior to seizing as no amount of glue, shellac, varnish would take the strain once the shrouds were pulled tight....following photos show where I'm up to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking in

 

Mark

The problem with the shrouds fouling the topsides is not your fault, nor is it the channels. It is simply that the masts are 11% too short at the scale and this is enough to cause the problem. After seeing your issue I checked that when I got to it and found that was the cause. The kit is good, but far from perfect. I lengthened all my mast sections to avoid the issue. AOTS talks about the construction contractors about 1520 describing the mast as more than 150ft long.  .if you scale that down you can see the problem.

[Fishooks]

the additional mast height completely avoided any shroud fouling

Edited September 15, 2023 by Fishooks

[Fishooks]

another couple of pics

[Mr Pleasant]

Hi All

 

Thanks for the likes and comments and thanks to Fishhooks for posting on the error in the mast dimensions provided in the plans.  This is what the forum is about after all, I've learned a lot and continue to do so and hopefully this build log will prove some assistance to those who are in the middle of building this model or who are considering starting.

 

I started this on the 28/12/2020 and finally finished on 05/09/2023.  The model out of the box builds fairly well and I think the preceding posts point out all the main pitfalls I came across.  The only things I've changed are the making of my own rope and the addition of the two cannons at the stern.

 

The following photos show the end result of a model I've enjoyed building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again for stopping by

 

 

Mark

 

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Mr Pleasant

[Baker]

Congratulations, a very beautiful model.

[Mr Pleasant]

Thanks Patrick

I'll certainly be following your build of the Mary Rose

[Fishooks]

congratulations on a superb job

[ccoyle]

Nicely done! Congratulations!

[mugje]

Wonderful model! Congratulations with the finishing of this project!  

[Blue Ensign]

 

Well done Mark on producing a  fine looking model, I like the look of her.

This kit is not the easiest to deal with, and bluff bowed ships, not the easiest to plank.

ps that's a very nice mouse you produced, great weave effect.👍

 

B.E.

[Louie da fly]

Superb work on your part. Something to be justly proud of.

 

Steven

[GrandpaPhil]

Very nicely done!