archjofo Posted September 1, 2013 #31 Posted September 1, 2013 Hi Alex, absolutely awesome and beautiful. One of the best work I have seen ever. It's art. avsjerome2003 1 Quote Best regards Johann Video: La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette of 1827 - naval artillery La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of long boat La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of the masts La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - 2019 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 1 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 2 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 3 See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #32 Posted October 23, 2013 I graduated from the "furnish" Gondek, a little more effort and I can close it . Before closing, I will do the final photo. Mastered the three-dimensional shapes and almost finished decor stern. Finished completely underwater boards . fnkershner, avsjerome2003, egkb and 20 others 23 Quote
Chuck Posted October 23, 2013 #33 Posted October 23, 2013 Wonderful Work Alex!!! Jeronimo 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
michaelpsutton2 Posted October 23, 2013 #34 Posted October 23, 2013 Really fine the carved frieze work is great. Would you mind sharing with me how you have obtained that "muted" finish. I would love to be able duplicate it Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave
Trussben Posted October 23, 2013 #35 Posted October 23, 2013 Staggeringly beautiful Alex, congrats. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #36 Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks for the kind words Chuck However, this work has been difficult for me. Good quality of sculpture I have reached only the sixth attempt. Among other things, autumn depression ... Quote
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #37 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Really fine the carved frieze work is great. Would you mind sharing with me how you have obtained that "muted" finish. I would love to be able duplicate it Hi michaelpsutton2 Okay, I'll write again, and the recipe and method of preparation of solutions. I use two kinds of solutions (water (stain), and based on beeswax (mastic) of varying consistency). However, the photographs shows the processing is not yet finish. I will make the description and explanation completely and totally ready for this process. Edited October 23, 2013 by AlexBaranov mtaylor 1 Quote
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #38 Posted October 23, 2013 Staggeringly beautiful Alex, congrats. Ben Thanks for the kind words Ben Quote
NMBROOK Posted October 23, 2013 #39 Posted October 23, 2013 Staggeringly beautiful build Alex The artificial ageing techniques you are using are excellent. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #40 Posted October 23, 2013 Staggeringly beautiful build Alex The artificial ageing techniques you are using are excellent. Kind Regards Nigel Hi Nigel However, I want to note that this is not the finished work using the method of artificial aging. The process will be completed only after all the work on the ship's hull. I cover parts only wax mastic now for wood preservation. Quote
NMBROOK Posted October 23, 2013 #41 Posted October 23, 2013 I read on the Russian forum about a mix containing bitumen.If you use this mix,I assume it must still work with wax already applied?When I read about this technique,I was concerned it could result in a patchy finish.If you apply wax first,then I can see how this is aleviated.Sorry for so many questions Alex,but rather than struggle to find the answers on the Russian forum,what better way than to ask the master himself? Kind Regards Nigel pergynt 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #42 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) I read on the Russian forum about a mix containing bitumen.If you use this mix,I assume it must still work with wax already applied?When I read about this technique,I was concerned it could result in a patchy finish.If you apply wax first,then I can see how this is aleviated.Sorry for so many questions Alex,but rather than struggle to find the answers on the Russian forum,what better way than to ask the master himself? Kind Regards Nigel Yes you are right, I am using bitumen for the pigment in wax solutions for aging wood and rigging. This ancient way. However, we know that the bitumen is corrosive with respect to organic materials. So you can not use pure bitumen without beeswax. The negative impact of bitumen on organics was observed long ago, back in the 18th century. However, the method of protection was found by an experimental way. Bitumen is added as an additive to tar and wax solutions. I use beeswax and mineral wax (paraffin). Beeswax has a very small molecular structure. The molecules bind mollekuly wax bitumen and bitumen can not destroy organic materials. By the way, the aging of sails I use a similar solution. But the basic solution always contains wax, paraffin, bitumen, resins, natural soap, wood (pine) turpentine. Edited October 23, 2013 by AlexBaranov AntiSpiral, NMBROOK, harvey1847 and 1 other 4 Quote
NMBROOK Posted October 23, 2013 #43 Posted October 23, 2013 Thank you very much indeed Alex for taking the time to explain this to me.This is very interesting and I shall no doubt have a try myself on some scrap timber. I look forward to more updates. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #44 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) The basic ingredients and immutable my solution beeswax, paraffin, asphalt, wood rosin, natural soap, wood (pine) turpentine. Edited October 23, 2013 by AlexBaranov avsjerome2003, nisenbom and NMBROOK 3 Quote
NMBROOK Posted October 23, 2013 #45 Posted October 23, 2013 I know it is a lot to ask Alex,but do you fancy doing a small tutorial on this?This technique is employed by quite a few builders in Eastern Europe,but as yet,has not really been employed in the western world.I think there may be many builders on here that would find this most interesting.I do however fully understand if you would rather keep the secret to yourself.it is a bit like asking for the recipe for kentucky fried chicken. Kind Regards Nigel Brian the extraordinaire 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
dvm27 Posted October 23, 2013 #46 Posted October 23, 2013 Alex has been given the rare honor of being designated Master Modeler on his Russian ship model forum. It's easy to see why. mtaylor and NMBROOK 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #47 Posted October 23, 2013 Of course there is no secret. All of these ancient methods and artificial aging recipes I found on the internet. I took a lot of experimenting and discover the most successful and easy recipes that give excellent (in my opinion) the result. I wanted to create a model of the ship that it was very similar to the old museum piece. I believe that it makes sense to make the experiment more to get the most excellent quality. I am willing to share my experience. The only problem is explanation. I do not have a daily practice in English but have a deficiency of daily time. So my English is very bad. To write messages I use the electronic translator and correct grammatical errors.... NMBROOK 1 Quote
AlexBaranov Posted October 23, 2013 Author #48 Posted October 23, 2013 Alex has been given the rare honor of being designated Master Modeler on his Russian ship model forum. It's easy to see why. Master Modeler .... It's not my phrase and not my opinion. I believe that much remains to be achieved. It is only mid-way. However, I sometimes use epithets. In the commercial aspect of it is very useful. However, I know that advertising is the most shameless thing, but with this statement always easy to accept. Advertising is the foundation of business. NMBROOK 1 Quote
NMBROOK Posted October 23, 2013 #49 Posted October 23, 2013 I fully understand Alex.You have some wonderful master classes on the Russian forum,but unfortunately it nearly kills google translator on my computer. Kind Regards Nigel dvm27 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
garyshipwright Posted December 9, 2013 #50 Posted December 9, 2013 Hi Alex. Have a question for you sir and wondering were you found the information. The clench bolts that you show on the outside of the gun ports, was this done on English ships? I thought that this was done on French ships but was hidden on English ships under the outer planks. Another question is how is this detail done, cast or metal work and can you show how this was made. Thank you sir. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779
NMBROOK Posted December 10, 2013 #51 Posted December 10, 2013 Hi Gary,the clenchbolts are castings,they are available to purchase on Alex's Shipmodels.ru site.I know because I was looking at them myself the other night. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
Sailor1234567890 Posted December 10, 2013 #52 Posted December 10, 2013 In absolute awe over this build. WOW. Quote
garyshipwright Posted December 10, 2013 #53 Posted December 10, 2013 Thanks Nigel. I went to there site sir and nothing comes up or at leasty what I can see. Any more help would be grateful, knowing what sizes and cost of them also. Thank you again. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 10, 2013 #54 Posted December 10, 2013 Thank you very much Alex to show us your receipe. Since the first time that I saw on a forum the use of asphalt by russians I tried it sometimes and I like the aging effect. I do not understand why you use wood rosin which is probably something like pine gum. The only thing I know about it is that it is water resistant. Gaetan Quote
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 11, 2013 #55 Posted December 11, 2013 Aging solution with asphalt Beeswax Slows drying time, soften the color and more transparent. Mixing it with the bitumen allows beewax molecules to bind and make the asphalt more neutral paraffin:help beewax or could be white wax candle asphalt: Was used by the egyptiens for embalming Oil suluble pine resin: Gives plastic properties and can form a varnish if mixed with alcool natural soap: probably for the oils in the soap turpentine: Fluidity and solubility of the mix siccative: shorter drying time, max 10% of total mix. Alex is right everything is on Internet avsjerome2003, nisenbom, NMBROOK and 3 others 6 Quote
NMBROOK Posted December 11, 2013 #56 Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Gary If you click on the accessories link at the top of the page then download the moulding pdf which is top left of the next page.Everything is listed with sizes and prices in Euros.Be warned some seriously nice kit and I know I for one could spend a fortune on there.Look out for the trunnion caps unbelievable detail! Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
NMBROOK Posted December 11, 2013 #57 Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Gaetan Good work find that.I found a section on the Russian forum,but google translator made a bit of a mess of it.It is definitely worth experimenting,because when done properly it looks incredible. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
Decoyman Posted December 11, 2013 #58 Posted December 11, 2013 Is it www.shipmodels.ru we should be looking at? because I can't see a link for 'accessories". Rob Quote Chaloupe Armée en Guerre Caldercraft Agamemnon
Decoyman Posted December 11, 2013 #60 Posted December 11, 2013 Thank you! Rob Quote Chaloupe Armée en Guerre Caldercraft Agamemnon
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