wvdhee Posted February 13 #121 Posted February 13 Looking great! dunnock 1 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
dunnock Posted February 18 Author #122 Posted February 18 Thanks for the likes and encouraging comments. Forward Braces Looking at the main yard braces, the plans show they are tied off to the bowsprit bitts but I’d tied off the inhauler to one of them. I reviewed all my bowsprit rigging against the photos of the model in the RMG and other references. In the photo its not clear that an inhauler is present and Marquardt refers to Lever saying that on small ships, an inhauler was not rigged. For this reason (and for expediency), I have decided to remove the inhauler. The main yard braces are 0.66 times the appropriate stay. I used 0.6mm rope. They are spliced around the end of the bowsprit, lead through the brace pendants and back through the outer sheaves of the triple block and tied off at the forward bitts. The topsail yard braces, using, 45mm rope, are spliced around the yard arm, run through 3mm blocks hooked into the eyebolts at the cranse and run back to the crossbeam of the forward bitts. I left both sets of braces slack but some more work is needed to make them hang satisfactorily. I use dilute pva and weight the rope along its length with paper clips. Aft Braces Prompted by Andrew, I considered the aft braces. There are none shown on the museum model of Trial but all the of the cutters photographed by @tkay11 show them fitted and Marquardt also lists them. I decided to fit them. Looking at the photos of the 1763 cutter, the aft braces are shown threaded through a sheathed hole in the stern and I’ve tried to copy this effect. An eyebolt is glued in far aft and two holes drilled in the side forward of the eyebolt. The eyes of ringbolts are Ca’d over the holes to add to the effect. The braces are rigged in a similar manner to the fore braces with pendants on the main yard and spliced to the arm of the topsail yard. The main yard brace is tied to the eyebolt, passes through the brace block, leads through the forward hole in the stern and is belayed at the aft cleats. The topsail brace goes through the aft hole and is belayed to the nearest timberhead. Like the fore braces, I have left them slack. Bowlines Bowlines are not present on the Greenwich model and maybe it’s not appropriate to add them when there are no sails on the model. Marquardt says that the main yard bowlines are threaded through a double block on the end of the bowsprit. Although I tried, I could see no way of adding a block easily with all the other rigging in the way so I decided to added only topsail bowlines. These lead through thimbles stropped to the end of the ‘sprit. The thimbles are difficult to see with all that's going on. The bowlines are hitched to the yard in-board of the yardarm cleats with a timberhitch and lead through the thimbles. I was running out of suitable belay points up front so they are tied off to the winch standards. I used 0.35mm rope. I’ve gone beyond my original rigging plan and the model now looks very busy around the bowsprit. and I’m calling a halt. It’s time to tidy up all the trailing ropes and make some hanks and coils, not one of my favourite bits of the build. I’ve tried various methods of making hanks but I struggle to make them look very convincing. Ah well onwards.. David DaveBaxt, Thukydides, Glenn-UK and 7 others 10 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Thukydides Posted February 18 #123 Posted February 18 Great job David. I like the busier look on models. All the pictures you see from the era, the ships looked very cluttered and so I feel you need at least a bit of clutter to make it feel authentic. AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
AJohnson Posted February 18 #124 Posted February 18 (edited) That looks outstanding David, really pleased you have blazed the trail for me and others to follow on this fine build. I also like clutter, looking at the contemporary models of Cutters like Trial & Hawke then they are very busy looking and cluttered with details like rope hanks anchor bouys and boats even. Are you hoisting a flag at all? Edited February 21 by AJohnson dunnock 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
dunnock Posted February 21 Author #125 Posted February 21 Thanks Andrew and Thukydides for your kind words. I will be pressing my daughter into flag making as the very last step, although she doesn't know it yet! Kate made such a good job of jacks and ensigns for Fly and Diana that she is designated Chief Flag-Maker. 😃 David AJohnson and chris watton 2 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
DaveBaxt Posted February 21 #126 Posted February 21 (edited) You have made lots of progress since I have been away on holiday and good to be back and what a surprise to see how far on, you are. We'll done and as expected she looks amazing. Edited February 22 by DaveBaxt AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
dunnock Posted February 26 Author #127 Posted February 26 A quick update. I’ve spent the last few days making hanks and tidying the deck. I have used the method of wrapping rope around pins arranged in an elipse but have always had difficulty making the hanks hang realistically, especially thinner ropes. I now prefer the method published by @carlo_l How I make rope hanks, fast and easy technique - My JIG - Model Tips and Tricks and Making Jigs - Model Ship World™ although I change it slightly by tying off the hank and then making the loop. The coils are made in the normal way by laying rope down on the sticky side of masking tape and fixing with dilute pva. David Thukydides, No Idea, Blue Ensign and 9 others 12 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Thukydides Posted February 26 #128 Posted February 26 Those are pretty nice looking hanks. I will have to take a look at that tutorial as I am going to start to need to do these soon. dunnock and AJohnson 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
carlo_l Posted February 26 #129 Posted February 26 David you are doing a great job! I am very impressed how everything is looking on that deck 😃 AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote YouTuber and Blogger talking about the world of model ship making. You might also know me as Tagliamare ⛵
Ronald-V Posted February 27 #130 Posted February 27 Those ropes look great! It looks very realistic, how they just laying there...nice job dunnock and AJohnson 2 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
Theodosius Posted February 29 #131 Posted February 29 This is all very authentic! dunnock and AJohnson 2 Quote
dunnock Posted March 1 Author #132 Posted March 1 (edited) Thanks for the likes and all the very kind compliments. Anchors I attempted to make the anchors back in November but broke both of them when trying to fit the anchor rings. The replacements arrived soon after but left it a while before having another go. Despite being as careful as possible, I still broke another anchor when trying to insert the ring. Thankfully Chris had sent me three replacements and the final one was drilled out and the ring inserted without any damage. Puddening of the ring still took a lot of care. I used 0.45mm dark brown rope and 0.1mm thread for the seizings. The cat block is a 4mm double block with hook made from 0.7mm brass wire and blackened. The iron band is represented by heat shrink tubing. The cat block is rigged with 0.35mm rope. It is tied off at the inner eyebolt on the cathead and threads through the block and both sheaves in the cathead and tied off at a cleat on the inboard side of the cathead. The anchor is lashed to a convenient timberhead by the shank painter and at the arm. The ensign will be the final touch which will be added as soon as my Flag Maker has space in her busy schedule! Thanks for looking in David Edited March 1 by dunnock Ronald-V, Javelin, DB789 and 9 others 12 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
AJohnson Posted March 1 #133 Posted March 1 Looking very good David, I am suitably warned about the delicate anchors! Seems inevitable, given how clumsy I am, that I will be breaking them also! 😆 dunnock 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
dunnock Posted March 1 Author #134 Posted March 1 Quote Looking very good David, I am suitably warned about the delicate anchors! Seems inevitable, given how clumsy I am, that I will be breaking them also! 😆 Thanks Andrew. I thought that the anchor ring was a bit under sized so made a new one. This necessitated drilling out the hole, by which time there is precious little shank left. If you go with the kit anchor ring, it will be more robust. AJohnson and Mr Whippy 2 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
DaveBaxt Posted March 1 #135 Posted March 1 3 hours ago, dunnock said: Thanks for the likes and all the very kind compliments. Anchors I attempted to make the anchors back in November but broke both of them when trying to fit the anchor rings. The replacements arrived soon after but left it a while before having another go. Despite being as careful as possible, I still broke another anchor when trying to insert the ring. Thankfully Chris had sent me three replacements and the final one was drilled out and the ring inserted without any damage. Puddening of the ring still took a lot of care. I used 0.45mm dark brown rope and 0.1mm thread for the seizings. The cat block is a 4mm double block with hook made from 0.7mm brass wire and blackened. The iron band is represented by heat shrink tubing. The cat block is rigged with 0.35mm rope. It is tied off at the inner eyebolt on the cathead and threads through the block and both sheaves in the cathead and tied off at a cleat on the inboard side of the cathead. The anchor is lashed to a convenient timberhead by the shank painter and at the arm. The ensign will be the final touch which will be added as soon as my Flag Maker has space in her busy schedule! Thanks for looking in David There are always frustrations along the way but credit to you for overcoming them and making a really nice example of the anchor rings. AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
dunnock Posted May 1 Author #136 Posted May 1 The Ensign has been painted by my daughter Kate and I have rigged it on a separate line. I used steam to set it and tried to impart some feeling of movement to it. I’m not sure if I’ve succeeded or whether I like the way it hangs. I’ll think about it for a while. Anyway that was the finishing touch and so my first effort of building a ship from Vanguard Models is complete. I like the way that the basic hull slots together so easily and the laser etched bulwarks and deck add to the simplicity of the build. Trial was fun to do and makes a lovely model I have already received my next ship, HMS Speedy, from Chris but I’m inclined to lay my own deck and bulwarks on this build. I’ve a few weeks to mull it over while on holiday in Shetland before making a start. Thanks to everyone for looking in and for all the helpful comments and support. David rcweir, CiscoH, DaveBaxt and 13 others 13 3 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Thukydides Posted May 1 #137 Posted May 1 Great job, the flag looks really nice. You should be proud of her. AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
DaveBaxt Posted May 1 #138 Posted May 1 Very realistic Ensign! AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
No Idea Posted May 1 #139 Posted May 1 David congratulations on your finished build it looks fantastic and I have enjoyed watching your progress. Good luck with Speedy. DaveBaxt, AJohnson and dunnock 3 Quote
DonSangria Posted May 1 #140 Posted May 1 Looking good! Nice work! AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Current build: HMS Sphinx 1:64 (Vanguard Models) Finished: HMS Beagle 1:60 (Occre)
dunnock Posted May 1 Author #141 Posted May 1 Thanks very much for your kind words and compliments @Thukydides, @DaveBaxt, @No Idea and @DonSangria When I get back I'll try to take some shots with a better background David DaveBaxt, No Idea and AJohnson 3 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
No Idea Posted May 1 #142 Posted May 1 David that would be great and have a nice holiday in Shetland too AJohnson and DaveBaxt 2 Quote
chris watton Posted May 1 #143 Posted May 1 Very well done, David, I think this is the first one I have seen fully complete, she looks very nice indeed! DaveBaxt, dunnock, AJohnson and 1 other 4 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook
Craigie65 Posted May 1 #144 Posted May 1 Wonderful work. Looking forward to watching your log of Speedy. Enjoy Shetland! AJohnson, dunnock and chris watton 3 Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
dunnock Posted May 1 Author #145 Posted May 1 Quote Very well done, David, I think this is the first one I have seen fully complete, she looks very nice indeed! Many thanks Chris, that's very kind of you and especially encouraging coming from the designer of this great little model. Quote Wonderful work. Looking forward to watching your log of Speedy. Enjoy Shetland! Thanks Craig. Really looking forward to Shetland. We've been to Scotland and many of the islands but this will be our first trip to Shetland. David chris watton and AJohnson 2 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
ccoyle Posted May 1 #146 Posted May 1 I agree with the previous comments -- she looks quite sharp! dunnock, chris watton, No Idea and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
DB789 Posted May 1 #147 Posted May 1 David, she looks fantastic. Well done. chris watton and dunnock 2 Quote Dan Current Build: Yacht Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Previous Builds: Fifie (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Nisha (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Zulu (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Saucy Jack (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Erycina (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HMS Alert (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Grecian (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Ranger (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HM Gun Brig Adder (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Waiting to be Built: Speedy (Vanguard Models, 1:64)
dunnock Posted May 1 Author #148 Posted May 1 Thanks very much Dan. Your Adder's looking great too. David DB789 and AJohnson 2 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Ronald-V Posted May 2 #149 Posted May 2 Congratulations! Well done, she looks beautiful AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
AJohnson Posted June 25 #150 Posted June 25 Congratulations David, superb finish, does your Daughter take orders for Ensigns? 🤣 looking forward to seeing your Speedy log. Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
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