kurtvd19 Posted October 14, 2023 #1 Posted October 14, 2023 Had a question during this morning's Virtual Workshop on where to get the type of saw shown in the photo below. This tool guy has a lot on neat stuff. Visited one the NRG Conferences as a vendor and loves the way we buy tools! He's a member of my local IPMS club. GGibson, thibaultron, RichardG and 5 others 7 1 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
Stimpy Posted October 15, 2023 #2 Posted October 15, 2023 Hi. You can get them at MICRO MARK. Mike Canute, thibaultron and mtaylor 3 Quote
Bob Cleek Posted October 15, 2023 #3 Posted October 15, 2023 Amazon has the handles and blades. MicroMark is retailing them through Amazon. It's worth checking out Amazon's price comparison feature. They are selling for considerably less on Zoro, if Amazon's price comparison is accurate. If you are an Amazon Prime member, you can probably get free shipping on it through Amazon. thibaultron, Ryland Craze, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
Gregory Posted October 15, 2023 #4 Posted October 15, 2023 What is the actual name of the tool for the purpose of searching on Amazon? Canute, mtaylor and thibaultron 3 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Bob Cleek Posted October 15, 2023 #5 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gregory said: What is the actual name of the tool for the purpose of searching on Amazon? Sorry. I broke my own rule of always posting a link when citing an online source! My bad! Here you go. Amazon sells the blades and handles separately for some unknown reason. DISCLAIMER: I cannot tell from the Amazon listing whether this saw and blades are the same as those mentioned in Kurt's earlier posts in this thread. Amazon identifies the seller as MicroMark, but I notice that the blades in the photo Kurt posted have some labeling on them and the blades Amazon has pictured don't. It's certainly not difficult to knock off this item, so buyer beware. There be pirates in these waters. Wood Handle For Ultra Fine Saw Blades - Amazon.com Amazon.com: Ultra Fine Saw Blade (Pack of 5) : Tools & Home Improvement Extra Long Micro Miter Box - Amazon.com Note that I also posted the link to the suitable micro-sized miter box. These narrow-kerfed blades tend to wander in a wider miter box slot, thereby failing to cut at an accurate angle. Of course, all of this is academic for those who have already saved up and bought their Byrnes table saw. Edited October 15, 2023 by Bob Cleek Gregory, mtaylor, GGibson and 2 others 3 2 Quote
Jack12477 Posted October 15, 2023 #6 Posted October 15, 2023 Micromark Micro Miter box super value. Includes wood handle, saw blades and miter box. I have one and I find it very good for small work. mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 2 1 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
GGibson Posted October 15, 2023 #7 Posted October 15, 2023 I was the one who asked the question in yesterday's NRG Virtual Workshop, Kurt, and thanks to all for the additional links and suggestions! I've had MicroMark's larger Miter Box for Razor Saw (micromark.com) for a long time, but was intrigued by the "compactness" of the one mentioned yesterday. Appreciate the follow-up, Kurt! And others! Jack12477, thibaultron and mtaylor 3 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it) Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways
Canute Posted October 16, 2023 #8 Posted October 16, 2023 That tiny miter box for this razor saw is pretty small. Recommend you screw it down to a larger piece of wood with a pair of flat head screws. Then you can clamp the whole assembly down to your workbench. I think these saws came from the Czech Republic. The aircraft and armor folks have used them for years. I hold/clamp a steel straightedge to a car body and cut against that. Very narrow kerf. thibaultron, Jack12477 and mtaylor 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
kurtvd19 Posted October 16, 2023 Author #9 Posted October 16, 2023 The saw I showed earlier came from UMM-USA. The guy that owns UMM-USA is from the Czech Republic - still has a very strong accent. He was the original importer. He has a lot of his unique products made over there by close friends. He is a great guy and is helping a lot of friends who are still there. I try to give him my business so he can continue to keep some of the companies back there to stay in business. scrubbyj427, mtaylor, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
Jaager Posted October 16, 2023 #10 Posted October 16, 2023 Sprue Brothers has been a source: https://spruebrothers.com/tools-supplies/tools-cutting/?page=1&mode=6 thibaultron, Gregory, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
GGibson Posted October 16, 2023 #11 Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Jaager said: Sprue Brothers has been a source: https://spruebrothers.com/tools-supplies/tools-cutting/?page=1&mode=6 Ahhhh, and these guys are practically in my backyard! Well, technically across the river in another state... but they're close! Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 2 2 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it) Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways
Bob Cleek Posted October 18, 2023 #12 Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 2:01 PM, kurtvd19 said: The saw I showed earlier came from UMM-USA. The guy that owns UMM-USA is from the Czech Republic - still has a very strong accent. He was the original importer. He has a lot of his unique products made over there by close friends. He is a great guy and is helping a lot of friends who are still there. I try to give him my business so he can continue to keep some of the companies back there to stay in business. Thanks for the tip about UMM-USA, Kurt! I checked their website and was impressed by the wide range of tools they offered. I noted that the PE'd razor saw pictured above has a range of differently sized blades which UMM-USA offers, as well as a lot of other PE'd micro-saw blades, like micro-keyhole saws and the like. A quick scan of UMM-USA's tools section gives me the impression that their prices are very reasonable. It was also apparent that they emphasize plastic modeling, but their tool offerings are applicable to wooden ship modeling as well. I'm surprised UMM-USA is a MSW advertiser! mtaylor, Canute, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote
Gregory Posted October 18, 2023 #13 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Here is a link to the wood handle at UMM-USA https://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?cPath=21_28&products_id=35&osCsid=f9dc1861e067b4dd5620358510e5bd49 A variety of blades and other cutting tools here: https://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/index.php?cPath=21_28&osCsid=f9dc1861e067b4dd5620358510e5bd49 P.S. I was going through my ship modeling bookmarks and discovered this: 30 Years Anniversary JLC Micro Saw Pack I forgot I had bookmarked that and never got around to ordering it.. I will, now. Looks like a great value at $22.95 . Edited October 18, 2023 by Gregory thibaultron, kurtvd19, Canute and 1 other 3 1 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Nirvana Posted October 31, 2023 #14 Posted October 31, 2023 I have bought quite a few items from John Vojtech, the quality is better than what I expected. Have been using the saw for many years without noticing any wear of the blade. I prefer to give him my shopping spree instead of Amazon or Micro-Mark. thibaultron, scrubbyj427, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
kurtvd19 Posted October 31, 2023 Author #15 Posted October 31, 2023 I agree-- Shop local when possible. mtaylor, Canute, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
GGibson Posted November 2, 2023 #16 Posted November 2, 2023 So, just a quick update and acknowledgement... After Kurt's initial post here providing additional information regarding my query during the NRG Virtual Workshop a few Saturdays ago, and several other members' agreement on the quality of the product, I got on John Votech's UMM-USA website this afternoon and ordered the Micro Saw Pack. I received an email acknowledgement of the order at 6:51PM, and at 7:12PM I received a notice that a USPS tracking number had been assigned to the shipment! What great customer service! And, just before I came on here to give him kudos, I sent John a personal thank you email for his speed and, while typing this post, received another thank you from him for doing business with him. All over one simple purchase. Those are the people we continue to work with! Thanks, Kurt, for the info! mtaylor, scrubbyj427, Canute and 3 others 4 2 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it) Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways
Sluicemaster Posted January 10 #17 Posted January 10 These saws are also available through the CMK Kits Eshop at CMKKITS.com/en/. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
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