SS Klondike II by John Ruy - 1/8” = 1’ (1/96 scale) - Sternwheeler Riverboat

[KeithAug]

She is quite lovely isn't she. I think I like the exterior version with all the arrows, much more interesting with all those extra bits. 

[John Ruy]

A bit of progress…

 

I worked on the Main Deck (bow section) tonight. 

Tracing the deck line for a template. 

Cut out the template and draw the outline of the bow section on 1/16” plywood. 

Cut out the plywood…

Glue and clamp… Bow section complete. I will be planking the Main Deck once the structure is completed.  The upper decks were covered with canvas, which I will simulate with paper and gray stain. No need to plank those decks. 

Cheers 🍻 

 

Edited August 28 by John Ruy

[GGibson]

I had not seen this latest SS Klondike II scratch build of yours before, John!  How'd I miss this?!?  Will follow this one, as well, obviously! 

[KeithAug]

I see the bow is “working out” quite nicely. Always good to find a use for a bit of weight lifting ironmongery.

[FriedClams]

Good progress, John - coming along nicely!

 

Gary

[John Ruy]

Main Sub-deck completed…

Cutting out the sub-decking from 1/16” plywood. 

 

Ready to plank the main deck…

 

Shout out to @Kusawa2000 in White Horse, YT for his spy photos. He helped me confirm the Fore Deck planking and the Steam Winch to be placed on the Fore Deck.
Thanks Mike…

 

The real Klondike II is currently under some serious restoration efforts by Parks Canada. 🇨🇦 

I will be attempting to scratch build this Winch at 1/96 scale. Any tips or suggestions you all may have would be greatly appreciated. I have enough photos, it’s a mechanical drawing of this equipment that would be helpful. 

On to planking… 🍻

 

Edited August 31 by John Ruy

[Keith Black]

 John, regarding the winch.

 

 I suggest that once you determine the frame dimensions that you draw those dimensions on card and cut out the winch footprint to give yourself an idea of the boundaries you'll be working in. Rough guess on my part, at 1:96 scale, I think the frame footprint to be approximately 1.25 L x 1.0 W inches not including the four friction drums. Then start thinking on how to create the winch elements out of simple materials, card or styrene for gears and the two gear guards, eye pins for shaft bearings and levers, dowel for shafts and friction drums, 16 or 14 gauge wire for shafts, smaller wire for levers and rods, small dimensional wood for the frame. 

 

 That's a lot of elements to cram onto a very small space. The goal is to suggest the whole without replicating each individual piece, IMHO.   

 

 The below is the hole punch set I have that I used for punching the gears out of card for my Donkey engine. They're very inexpensive and when they get dull, replace em!  

 

https://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-hollow-punch-set-3838.html?event_id=183117&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12169518939&campaignid=12169518939&utm_content=114845717657&adsetid=114845717657&product=3838&store=437&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4feIhHaYGJ7rQIokKGomcEYK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi52GtYCgiAMV0Un_AR1OBApJEAQYAiABEgIbxvD_BwE

 

   Keith

[KeithAug]

3 hours ago, John Ruy said:

I will be attempting to scratch build this Winch at 1/96 scale.

It's quite a complicated thing isn't it. I assume it had many uses including powering the forward derricks as well as anchors?

[John Ruy]

36 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

 John, regarding the winch.

 

 I suggest that once you determine the frame dimensions that you draw those dimensions on card and cut out the winch footprint to give yourself an idea of the boundaries you'll be working in. Rough guess on my part, at 1:96 scale, I think the frame footprint to be approximately 1.25 L x 1.0 W inches not including the four friction drums. Then start thinking on how to create the winch elements out of simple materials, card or styrene for gears and the two gear guards, eye pins for shaft bearings and levers, dowel for shafts and friction drums, 16 or 14 gauge wire for shafts, smaller wire for levers and rods, small dimensional wood for the frame. 

 

 That's a lot of elements to cram onto a very small space. The goal is to suggest the whole without replicating each individual piece, IMHO.   

 

 The below is the hole punch set I have that I used for punching the gears out of card for my Donkey engine. They're very inexpensive and when they get dull, replace em!  

 

https://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-hollow-punch-set-3838.html?event_id=183117&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12169518939&campaignid=12169518939&utm_content=114845717657&adsetid=114845717657&product=3838&store=437&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4feIhHaYGJ7rQIokKGomcEYK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi52GtYCgiAMV0Un_AR1OBApJEAQYAiABEgIbxvD_BwE

 

   Keith

Thanks Keith…

I have been trying to wrap my head around this task. Your suggestions are very helpful. 

 

I have found a Bluejacket piece that could work as a base and have been pondering 🤔 modifications. 
 

5/8″ x 3/4″ (1/8″ Scale). Priced per 6 pieces. $7.66

I do think your suggested size feels more appropriate and I can build it to look more correct than Bluejackets “Liberty” winch modified. 
 

 

 

 

[John Ruy]

35 minutes ago, KeithAug said:

It's quite a complicated thing isn't it. I assume it had many uses including powering the forward derricks as well as anchors?

Yes, quite the work horse, back in the day. 

[Keith Black]

3 hours ago, John Ruy said:

I have found a Bluejacket piece that could work as a base and have been pondering 🤔 modifications. 
 

5/8″ x 3/4″ (1/8″ Scale). Priced per 6 pieces. $7.66

 John, were I you I'd have bought that the moment I saw it. For $7.66 (you spill more than that on a good night ) it's a steal. Yes, there's satisfaction in building something like the winch from scratch but..... if that Bluejacket piece comes close to working out it'll save you at least a weeks worth of work. And if nothing else you could rob it for pieces parts if you decide to build the winch from scratch. In that case buy two.  I think that's an awesome find, I'd jump all over it. 

 

 It doesn't appear the winch on the model in post #8 is close to being the correct winch? Who looks at that model and say's "well, nice model but that winch." 

Edited September 1 by Keith Black

[John Ruy]

31 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

And if nothing else you could rob it for pieces parts if you decide to build the winch from scratch. In that case buy two

Amazing, I was having this exact same thought. I’m sitting here right now putting together an order for cleats and pieces I need for my 1/16 scale Red Jacket as well. 
 

Thanks for chiming in… 🍻 I’ll try not to spill any thing… LOL 😆 

[John Ruy]

Building out the Stern…

Cheers 🍻 

[John Ruy]

Planking the Main Deck…

Finish framing out the stern…

Planking the Stern…

Planking the Main Deck…

Bow planking…

Main Deck and Bow completed with platform for Steam Winch. 😎

 

Next up, some filling/sanding of the hull and decking. Then painting the hull white and the decking gray. 
 

Cheers 🍻 
 

 

[Baker]

Nice work  👍

[Dr PR]

John,

 

This is  a long shot, but you might find a patent for the winch in the US Patent Office archives. When I was working on the OK City model I found the patents for a couple of winches there, along with patents for the entire Talos missile launching system! Hundreds of drawings and detailed descriptions.

 

Search for Biefort and winch -  I think that is the name in the photo you show.

[John Ruy]

6 hours ago, Dr PR said:

John,

 

This is  a long shot, but you might find a patent for the winch in the US Patent Office archives. When I was working on the OK City model I found the patents for a couple of winches there, along with patents for the entire Talos missile launching system! Hundreds of drawings and detailed descriptions.

 

Search for Biefort and winch -  I think that is the name in the photo you show.

Thanks Phil… I’ll give it a shot.
BYW… It’s BIEGERT MACH WORKS. 

I will see what I can find. 

[Keith Black]

 John, Stephen Allen, @Stephen Allen posted this link to a steam winch that is similar to yours.

 

https://www.hatchwellantiques.co.uk/stock/model-steam-winch-detail

Edited September 17 by Keith Black

[John Ruy]

36 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

 John, Stephen Allen, @Stephen Allen posted this link to a steam winch that is similar to yours.

 

https://www.hatchwellantiques.co.uk/stock/model-steam-winch-detail

That’s NICE! WOW! Thanks for setting the bar. Good images to work with. 👍

[John Ruy]

Steam Winch…

 

I purchased two Bluejacket steam winch kits and proceeded to modify them to create 1 Klondike Winch. 

 

CHEERS 🍻 

Edited September 29 by John Ruy

[Keith Black]

 John, the winch turned out looking spot on. You did a great job working at scale to replicate Klondike's winch. 👍

[John Ruy]

15 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

 John, the winch turned out looking spot on. You did a great job working at scale to replicate Klondike's winch. 👍

Thank you Keith, your advice was very helpful. I can now add micro mechanics to my skill sets along with micro carpentry. 🔨 

[GGibson]

Excellent work, John! 👍🏆

[wmherbert]

Very slick. Nicely done 

Bill

[Ian_Grant]

John, noticed (again) your build which I must have forgotten to "follow" at the time. Looking great! Winch is excellent.

 

Those interior photos on upper deck and wheelhouse are very interesting. When I was there only the main deck was open to be wandered through, due to ongoing renovations.

 

Looking forward to seeing more of your build!

 

Ian

[FriedClams]

Nice work on the winch, John.  Fiddly work at that scale - looks good.

 

Gary

[KeithAug]

The winch came out very well. I am surprised how rough some of the Bluejacket castings were.

[John Ruy]

4 hours ago, KeithAug said:

The winch came out very well. I am surprised how rough some of the Bluejacket castings were.

Thanks Keith… To be fair to Bluejacket, had I built the winch they casted it, the parts were done quite well. It was my Hacking of the parts to build the Klondike’s Winch, that roughed it up a bit. Thanks for your comments, I think it came out quite nicely for my first attempt.

 

Cheers🍻

Edited October 18 by John Ruy

[Keith Black]

 John, I miss seeing updates on the Klondike plus I could follow your lead with Lula. 

[John Ruy]

1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

 John, I miss seeing updates on the Klondike plus I could follow your lead with Lula. 

Keith, I miss doing updates. I haven’t abandoned the Klondike, life got in the way. My Wife fell and fractured her hip. She had surgery 9/11 to pin the hip joint back together and we have spent a lot of time with healing and PT at home. She is better now, but we are now in the holidays. I Promise I’ll get back on it soon, it’s good to know you missed me. LOL 😆