mikegr Posted May 29 Share #1 Posted May 29 While I feel tired and bored to build a plane model I'm excited to build a simple tank diorama in the humble but still efficiently detailed and space saving, 1:72 scale. The reason I picked this model is to avoid camouflage patterns. A single colored vehicle in the dessert scene. Let's see how invisible I can make it. Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted May 29 Author Share #2 Posted May 29 (edited) Before model introduction I will post some pics of my visit at the Panorama museum in Cairo. Cairo isn't all about Pyramids, it has many sightseeings within the city center like the Saladin Castle which also has a big mosque, a police museum and other modern fighting machines like aircrafts, howitzers and tanks. And from the Castle of Saladin What is impressive is how these metal beasts are made. Makes you wonder how these super heavy vehicles can develop decent speeds. What makes me wonder though is what is the great force required them to blow them in pieces like we have seen in the documentary films. Especially in the modern warfare days, the challenge of survival among new threats like guided missiles and UAVs is definitely rough. However seems like there is some future left for these battle machines. We can imagine a fleet without carries but we cannot imagine a modern army without tanks. Edited May 29 by mikegr Egilman, Landlubber Mike, NavyShooter and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted May 29 Share #3 Posted May 29 Well the same way they make race cars go fast is the way they make tanks go fast... HP to Weight ratio... You can get anything to fly with a liberal application of horsepower.... Well the future of aircraft carriers is good as long as there isn't solar powered remote control aircraft.... (survivability is the issue, but you have to have the carrier to support the pilots) Tanks have reached a plateau in development, like cars, they are beginning to look all alike, and the anti-tank weapons have improved so much, (at least ours have) that armor is junk on the battlefield as soon as they are spotted... But then again wars of conquest are passe' as well... Large scale wars ala WWII will result in total world destruction... But the contents of museums like this are impressive none the less... Man's ingenuity for destruction knows no bounds... mtaylor, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 2 Author Share #4 Posted June 2 The reason I choose this model is because its easy to paint with one color only. The details on the main body surface are crispy. The tracks are flexible easy to bend not plastic I am following a video of a similar Flyhawk model assembly. There are two main pieces the body and the turret. I start making the body. Then the wheels. They primed separately and glued together. Then I preshadow the darker areas behind the fenders before I place them Canute, king derelict, Baker and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 4 Author Share #5 Posted June 4 Though it is a simple kit my inexperience cause me some troubles. The structure of the exact squared box chassis wasn't easy. Finally before give up and doing a lot of online research I manage how to fit the upper part without gaps. Note that if this doesn't match perfectly it wont allow the right wheel alignment. Egilman, Baker, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 5 Author Share #6 Posted June 5 The turret was easy to built. I did some improvement, drilled the barrel and put some grill behind the gun house. For this I used 3 pieces of tap mini filter Canute, Egilman, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 8 Author Share #7 Posted June 8 Painting started with careful moves not to delete the dark shades After 1rst coat After 2nd After 3d After the last one NavyShooter, mtaylor, Egilman and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted June 8 Share #8 Posted June 8 The shading looks very nice alan mikegr, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted June 10 Share #9 Posted June 10 Very nice work, Mike. I like all the military display photos you presented earlier in this thread as well. Odd to see one lone British AFV amongst all that Soviet armor and weapons. mikegr, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 10 Author Share #10 Posted June 10 Thank for the comments about the model and pictures. Here are a few more from Corregidor. Was there in 2014. There are 11 or 12" mortars. You can see the marks from the bullets shot and realize how close was the combat. Best sightseeing in Manila is actually off Manila Old Collingwood, Egilman, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 10 Share #11 Posted June 10 6 hours ago, CDW said: Odd to see one lone British AFV amongst all that Soviet armor and weapons. Yeah, was very odd to see the US M-48 and M-60 in line with all that Soviet equipment also... (soon to be joined by an export version M-1 Abrams as well) The Egyptian army was the first foreign nation to receive M-1 Abrams tanks... mtaylor, Canute, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted June 10 Share #12 Posted June 10 2 hours ago, Egilman said: Yeah, was very odd to see the US M-48 and M-60 in line with all that Soviet equipment also... (soon to be joined by an export version M-1 Abrams as well) The Egyptian army was the first foreign nation to receive M-1 Abrams tanks... Wow I did not know about the M1 tanks. Thanks for sharing that. Jack12477, Old Collingwood, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 11 Share #13 Posted June 11 3 hours ago, CDW said: Wow I did not know about the M1 tanks. Thanks for sharing that. Yep, they were the first receiving M1A1's in '88 they currently have over 1300 of them in service and a plant that assembles them from local parts and purchased high tech parts.. (mostly M1A2's) Australia was next... Saudi Arabia is 100% Abrams supplied, (over 600 in service) and Iraq also has several hundred as well as Poland has turned in all it's T72's to Ukraine in exchange for M1A2's and Romania is slated to receive them this year.. Understand one thing, NONE of the export versions have any of the special upgraded armor that US issues do, no DU backed composite armor and no DU ammo... It is also reported that a Russian armor display near Moscow has a captured M1A1 on open display... (not something the Russian's destroyed it was something captured in Afghanistan and take to Russia) Right now the only ammo capable of destroying a US operated upgraded M1Abrams consistently is fired by the M1Abrams itself... And of the nine tanks completely destroyed by tank gunfire in Iraq, 8 of them were friendly fire incidents... The earlier models of the M1 are beginning to take casualties in combat, in Syria, (yes Syria) Iraq and Ukraine, mostly to upgraded antitank missiles and improved Russian DU armor piercing rounds, usually in the side and rear armor areas, the front armor has never been penetrated by any weapon known to be used on the battlefields today... It is still, a US operated Abrams, the best most survivable and operable MBT on the planet and is about (2026-8) to undergo another upgrade... Also they are now designing the replacement for the Abrams, seeing as it is now approaching 50 years old as a design and is over 40yrs old as an operational weapons system... Jack12477, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 11 Author Share #14 Posted June 11 3 hours ago, Egilman said: Yep, they were the first receiving M1A1's in '88 they currently have over 1300 of them in service and a plant that assembles them from local parts and purchased high tech parts.. (mostly M1A2's) Australia was next... Saudi Arabia is 100% Abrams supplied, (over 600 in service) and Iraq also has several hundred as well as Poland has turned in all it's T72's to Ukraine in exchange for M1A2's and Romania is slated to receive them this year.. Understand one thing, NONE of the export versions have any of the special upgraded armor that US issues do, no DU backed composite armor and no DU ammo... It is also reported that a Russian armor display near Moscow has a captured M1A1 on open display... (not something the Russian's destroyed it was something captured in Afghanistan and take to Russia) Right now the only ammo capable of destroying a US operated upgraded M1Abrams consistently is fired by the M1Abrams itself... And of the nine tanks completely destroyed by tank gunfire in Iraq, 8 of them were friendly fire incidents... The earlier models of the M1 are beginning to take casualties in combat, in Syria, (yes Syria) Iraq and Ukraine, mostly to upgraded antitank missiles and improved Russian DU armor piercing rounds, usually in the side and rear armor areas, the front armor has never been penetrated by any weapon known to be used on the battlefields today... It is still, a US operated Abrams, the best most survivable and operable MBT on the planet and is about (2026-8) to undergo another upgrade... Also they are now designing the replacement for the Abrams, seeing as it is now approaching 50 years old as a design and is over 40yrs old as an operational weapons system... Looks like the 500$ Iranian drones worked pretty well against the M1A1 in Ukraine. Of course this is a downgrade version but Ukrainians did also improve it with additional armor. For a 10 millions a piece you can have 20.000 drones instead. The gun of the M1 is no doubt a success thus the powerful and accurate shots. But its a German one by Rheinmetall, same mounted on Leopard. A verified Leopard shot at the target at 5.8 kms, back in 2017 proves this. I have worked on these during serving but on a 30mm AA guns, pretty impressive back then. A think the new M1 need to be equipped with self defense active system like Merkava, Leopard, T14s, even the new Turkish Altai has a domestic produced one. The passive armor protection belongs clearly to the battleship age, though its useful for protection against smaller caliber. Needless to say at the moment, companies are working on anti drone mini weapons, Rheinmetall has already produced the SADM, (Small Anti Drone Missile) with more to follow. Jack12477, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 11 Share #15 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, mikegr said: A think the new M1 need to be equipped with self defense active system like Merkava, Leopard, T14s, even the new Turkish Altai has a domestic produced one. The passive armor protection belongs clearly to the battleship age, though its useful for protection against smaller caliber. Needless to say at the moment, companies are working on anti drone mini weapons, Rheinmetall has already produced the SADM, (Small Anti Drone Missile) with more to follow. Absolutely, this is in the works they already have a contract ready to go for the Israeli system of rocket/drone defense which is reported to work extremely well in the combat examples they have seen... (took their armor losses down by 85%) but they are holding out for a couple of US defense contractors developing their own system right now before they commit... It's supposed to be in the next round of upgrades... They are very optimistic about it... The design thinking right now on the new MBT is for an unmanned turret with autoloading guns reducing the crew to three,... automatic targeting for the light weapons and remote control for the main gun... upgrading the engine to hybrid electric making it more fuel efficient and almost completely silent without losing any of it's speed... and a lower profile to make it more hideable.... If all this works, the next MBT will be an awesome weapon system... These kind of systems are always a balance between firepower, speed/mobility and protection... in '68 protection took a big hit with the tow missile which could turn any tank in existence into a pile of scrap iron, the Israelis learned this the hard way against soviet wire guided tow missiles during the sinai campaign against the Egyptians, but once the missiles ran out, the Israelis kicked A** They developed the reactive armor system to counter hollow charged missiles, then this was countered by first Tow II and then the Hellfire missile... two hollow charge warheads in series, the first takes out the reactive system and the second takes out the tank... then they combine the reactive system with wire cages over them... One day the missile has the upper hand the next day the armor has the upper hand... the Drones are just one of the steps in the constantly evolving process... cause right now the firepower is the dominate thing about tanks there is no defense for that Rhinemetal gun especially firing the US developed DU special shot ammo and the infrared targeting system... A tank appears on the battlefield today it's usually a pile of junk in a matter of a few minutes... Unless it's an Abrams or a Leopard II Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 11 Author Share #16 Posted June 11 I sprayed the wheels and made some corrections with mini brush. Perhaps it should be better if I had sprayed them before glued in one piece. Too late. Hopefully the way I put them in place and the side skirts along with the tracks and usage of oil washes will minimize the imperfections. Side skirts also may need to be removed for positioning the tracks easier. Will see. mtaylor, Baker, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted June 12 Share #17 Posted June 12 On 6/11/2024 at 10:01 AM, Egilman said: A tank appears on the battlefield today it's usually a pile of junk in a matter of a few minutes... Unless it's an Abrams or a Leopard If you drive it into a mine field, and the tracks "fly in the air". Then it does not matter which model of tank you are in. You are, as they so aptly say in English, a sitting duck. 😪 king derelict, Canute, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted June 12 Share #18 Posted June 12 What always makes the difference in combat are the establishment of effective standards and the training/discipline to maintain those standards in combat. Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Baker and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 12 Share #19 Posted June 12 43 minutes ago, Baker said: ....a sitting duck. Yep that is the one weakness all tanks and tracked vehicles have on the battlefield, loss of mobility... The Abrams though is a fast repair, just remove the offending damaged road wheel and repair the track, and she can rejoin the column... This happened several times in Desert Storm.... 45 minutes was the longest loss of mobility.... In Iraqi Freedom this happened to the Abrams several times as well from IED's, once the fires went out, they winch it onto a C-het and send it home where it is rebuilt into a new updated tank... It is the most survivable tank in the world today... The main weapon Insurgents use in an urban setting is knock off a track with an IED or RPG and use Molotov's dropped on it from above to set it on fire... It gets the tank out of the battle line true, but doesn't destroy the tank... But your correct, a tank without the ability to move is a sitting duck.... Baker, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 13 Author Share #20 Posted June 13 So I finish painting the model using lighter shades to give a color deterioration and dirt effect. Some dark color lightly sprayed over wheels. On a later phase I will use wshing oils to finish it Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 16 Author Share #21 Posted June 16 I painted the tracks. I wasn't sure about the color as they were many options. I chose silver metal as a base color the black on top. Finally added some sand wash effect. mtaylor, Canute, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 17 Author Share #22 Posted June 17 Fitting these tracks was the most troublesome job of this project. Now I realize how painful is to assemble these one by one piece even in larger scales. The result was bad at the round cornern but hopefully was hidden under the side skirts Egilman, king derelict, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted June 20 Author Share #23 Posted June 20 Final details -rear lights drilled filled with silicone and painted clear red. -Antennas installled. -Spare wheel and track added. -Secondary guns added -Decals Ii gave it a coat of clear varnsih before applying some oils. Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM Author Share #24 Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM Work started. I'm not experience on this had to apply thinner to correct mistakes. One small decal melted. I should have put them after oil washing. Nevertheless the overall result is satisfied, I only made one tank model this was 30 years ago and with out any paint just assembly out of the box. A kinda overused Abrams but ok it's an old A1 version. Next week I will make a display base Egilman, mtaylor, king derelict and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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