JohnSGG Posted July 8 #1 Posted July 8 Dear fellow nautical enthusiasts, Thank you for permitting me to share in your august company. Following my introduction I shall elaborate on my particular reason for desiring to engage your attention. Whilst the personal apogee of my ship modelling to date has been the construction of a plywood press fit laser cut pirate galleon (scale and identity not otherwise specified) for the edification of my four year old son, I have a considerable interest and extensive library in the history of ships of the age of sail and modelling. More practically however I have a metal casting foundry that I constructed in my garden. So far have cast in brass a 1:10 desk toy 6pdr on the Armstrong-Fredericks pattern. I hope in the future to have the leisure and liberty to make my proper ship modelling debut. Somewhere gathering dust I have the plans for the Lady Nelson cutter which seems to me a reasonable starting point. In doing so I would be following the footsteps my late grandfather, Frank, who after retiring from a career as a power station architect (interrupted by a stint navigating Lancasters to precise locations in Germany), took up ship modelling, quite likely at least in part to compete with his brother who had already developed an enviable reputation in scratch building scale railway locomotives and rolling stock. The one modelling memento of his that remains in our family’s possession is a two-masted armed trader, fully constructed and rigged but left in an oiled wood finish. This is now unfortunately showing its age and the scars of various mishaps over the decades. Essentially the rigging is decomposing due to sunlight exposure and there is minor damage to the mizzen boom and some spars. This year we will celebrate my Mother’s 75th birthday. It would give her great pleasure if a programme of restoration were to be underway soon. Unfortunately I lack the time, tooling and skills to immediately undertake this myself. I am hoping that someone here may be able to direct me to a suitably skilled individual, or perhaps be that person, to undertake such work on terms of commensurate financial recompense. We are located in the Southwest of England, near Bristol and any contacts in that area would be particularly prized. Yours faithfully, John Griffith. chris watton, GrandpaPhil, Baker and 9 others 12 Quote
ccoyle Posted July 8 #2 Posted July 8 Welcome aboard! I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your grandfather's model is the old Artesania Latina Harvey kit, a generic Baltimore clipper. Plans for her are probably easily obtained on eBay (the kit was very popular back in the day). You might also find the book Rigging Period Fore-and-Aft Craft by Lennarth Petersson valuable. Stevinne, JohnSGG, Ferrus Manus and 6 others 9 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Keith Black Posted July 8 #3 Posted July 8 John, welcome to MSW, hopefully you'll be able to locate someone to undertake the restoration of your grandfather's model and a fine looking model it is. Glad to have you aboard. Ryland Craze, Scottish Guy, JohnSGG and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted July 8 #4 Posted July 8 Welcome! Keith Black, Scottish Guy, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
KeithAug Posted July 8 #5 Posted July 8 John - have you thought of contacting "The Repair Shop". Restoration for your Mother's 75th Birthday is the sort of project they seem to specialise in. They don't charge for their work as presumably they make a mint out of the TV programme. Welcome to MSW. Keith Black, Ryland Craze, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
druxey Posted July 8 #6 Posted July 8 Welcome aboard, John. A nice family heirloom like that should be protected in a case after you (hopefully) have it restored. Keith Black, Ryland Craze, JohnSGG and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
mtaylor Posted July 8 #7 Posted July 8 Scottish Guy, JohnSGG, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Nirvana Posted July 9 #8 Posted July 9 6 hours ago, ccoyle said: Welcome aboard! I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your grandfather's model is the old Artesania Latina Harvey kit, a generic Baltimore clipper. Plans for her are probably easily obtained on eBay (the kit was very popular back in the day). You might also find the book Rigging Period Fore-and-Aft Craft by Lennarth Petersson valuable. It's very likely it is the Harvey from Artesania Latina, I recognise the "pottys" at the bow. John, a very warm mtaylor, Scottish Guy, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Gregory Posted July 9 #9 Posted July 9 6 hours ago, ccoyle said: I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your grandfather's model is the old Artesania Latina Harvey kit Looking at some of the fittings, particularly the deadeyes and belaying pins, it was not totally out of the box.. mtaylor, Keith Black, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
popeye2sea Posted July 9 #10 Posted July 9 It is, indeed sir, a pleasure to make your acquaintance. You are most welcome here. Best of luck in finding someone to take on your estimable commission. I remain, sir, your most obedient and humble servant. Henry JohnSGG, Ryland Craze, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
knightyo Posted July 9 #11 Posted July 9 I offer my humble felicitations and trust that one of our estimable colleagues in your vicinity shall offer assistance befitting of your charming object. Yours respectfully, Alan PPS, Maturin sends his compliments and asks that you pay no mind to the fingers in the side table. mtaylor, Ryland Craze, Scottish Guy and 1 other 2 2 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106
Baker Posted July 9 #12 Posted July 9 Keith Black, Ryland Craze, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
JohnSGG Posted July 9 Author #13 Posted July 9 (edited) Thank you very much to all for your exceptionally kind welcome. Thank you in particular for the consensus reached on the probable identification of the kit, which should certainly assist in finding plans containing the rigging scheme and also for book recommendations for further research. 15 hours ago, ccoyle said: Welcome aboard! I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your grandfather's model is the old Artesania Latina Harvey kit, a generic Baltimore clipper. Plans for her are probably easily obtained on eBay (the kit was very popular back in the day). You might also find the book Rigging Period Fore-and-Aft Craft by Lennarth Petersson valuable. I agree that a case would be a useful addition to fend off the inquisitive hands of the junior family members. I have also rescued the vessel from its sun exposed position to a more suitable display area! 11 hours ago, druxey said: Welcome aboard, John. A nice family heirloom like that should be protected in a case after you (hopefully) have it restored. Alan, you are to be congratulated on your perspicacity with regards to the quotation in the title... Let me reassure you however, that as a physician myself I am inured to the presence of the occasional errant phalange. 4 hours ago, knightyo said: I offer my humble felicitations and trust that one of our estimable colleagues in your vicinity shall offer assistance befitting of your charming object. Yours respectfully, Alan PPS, Maturin sends his compliments and asks that you pay no mind to the fingers in the side table. Thanks again, and my great pleasure to make your collective acquaintance. Best wishes, John. Edited July 9 by JohnSGG Scottish Guy, Keith Black, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote
Scottish Guy Posted July 14 #14 Posted July 14 Hello John and welcome aboard here at MSW, enjoy the community and the modelling... Micha mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." Jacques - Yves Cousteau. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Build: "Roar Ege" by Billing Boats - 1:25 On Hold: n/a Finished: n/a
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