jah Posted November 13, 2013 #1 Posted November 13, 2013 I am new to this site and taking up ship building again since I was a boy 40 years ago. What a help this site would have been then. I see several references to Chuck's practicum for the Phantom and Sultana. I can't find them anywhere on the site. can someone point me to them? Quote
augie Posted November 13, 2013 #2 Posted November 13, 2013 They should be on the Model Expo site. I found Sultana and here's the link for chapter 1 http://www.modelexpo-online.com/images/docs/MS2016/MS2016-Sultana-Practicum-01.pdf Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
augie Posted November 13, 2013 #3 Posted November 13, 2013 And here's the link to the Phantom practicum by Chuck....also downloadable from the Model Expo site http://www.modelexpo-online.com/images/docs/MS2027/MS2027-Phantom-Practicum-Complete.pdf Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
jah Posted November 13, 2013 Author #4 Posted November 13, 2013 That was quick. Thanks for your help. Quote
Tripkid Posted January 1, 2015 #5 Posted January 1, 2015 The practicum has disappeared. Does anyone know of another location? Quote
mtaylor Posted January 1, 2015 #6 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Looks like they've redone the site. You might try emailing them and see if they still offer it. Otherwise, I'm not sure where you'd find it. Row, did you get to the practicums? I hit a deadend where it says they're available but no links. Edited January 1, 2015 by mtaylor Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GLakie Posted January 1, 2015 #7 Posted January 1, 2015 Just checked the site and it seem they're up-grading the site. So far I'm not finding either ship, so they must still be re-loading the info. Not sure but maybe later they'll be back up to full capacity. Cheers Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Chuck Posted January 1, 2015 #8 Posted January 1, 2015 If they dont put them back on the site I will fish around for the master CD;'s I have and place them somewhere on this site. Chuck mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Mirabell61 and 2 others 5 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
CharlieZardoz Posted January 1, 2015 #9 Posted January 1, 2015 Drat! I knew I should have downloaded all those practicums when I had the chance, got most of them though, worth their weight in gold mtaylor 1 Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...
Chuck Posted January 2, 2015 #10 Posted January 2, 2015 I have uploaded the Sultana practicum here..... http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-build-and-practicums.php Chuck I will add the Phantom in a little while. Once I find it...I know its here somewhere. CharlieZardoz, AON, justsayrow and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
jwvolz Posted January 2, 2015 #11 Posted January 2, 2015 A good number of the MS parts lists and instruction manuals were on the old site, they all seem to be gone now. I hope they're still updating. I was going to use those for determining some replacement wood plans for a few future builds. Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel"
CharlieZardoz Posted January 2, 2015 #12 Posted January 2, 2015 I'm sure they are as they just added a link for trumpeter models which is currently empty. Should be interesting to see how their new site progresses. Quote Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress) Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...
tkay11 Posted January 2, 2015 #13 Posted January 2, 2015 I have the Phantom practicum as a pdf file. I don't seem to be able to attach it to this post so I've uploaded to DropBox at this location. If Chuck or anyone wants to put it in the forum space they're welcome. I'll remove it from DropBox in a week or so. Tony Chuck, mtaylor and AON 3 Quote === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
Nirvana Posted January 3, 2015 #14 Posted January 3, 2015 Seems like ModelExpo removed all the goodies like practicum(manual) and related plans for their kits, I found out because I wanted to download the material list for one of the kits. This as I like to have another copy or pre-copy before ordering. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Brenticus Posted January 8, 2015 #15 Posted January 8, 2015 The new location of the practicum (and others) is here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-build-and-practicums.php Quote Cheers, Brenticus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Jack, you have debauched my sloth!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Completed Logs: HMS Patrician, frigate, 32 guns (converted Lindberg Jolly Roger 1:150) Completed Build Gallery: HMS Patrician
figuerres Posted January 8, 2015 #16 Posted January 8, 2015 if you do not find it on the model expo site call them and ask. from what I was told they are working to bring the updated site "up to date" it sounded like they had a big change to stuff in how the site works and are getting it fixed as they go fwd. Quote Holding at Rigging stage : MS Bluenose 1:64, rigging and finish work Building Hull : MS Fair American 1:48 In the yard: 18th Century Longboat, Model Shipways Kit Done: AL Bounty Jolly Boat
GLakie Posted January 8, 2015 #17 Posted January 8, 2015 As stated in post #15, Chuck has already posted them here on this site. Cheers thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
cheetahhouse Posted February 12, 2015 #18 Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you - As I am at the all important pre-planking stage of Le Hussard, this practicum is a much welcome addition! Hip Hip Hooray on the movie too! GLakie 1 Quote
Pau Posted August 20, 2017 #19 Posted August 20, 2017 A new member.Can't find the practicum for the Phantom in any of the links posted. Quote
Mumin Posted August 20, 2017 #20 Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Pau said: A new member.Can't find the practicum for the Phantom in any of the links posted. ModelExpo has it on Phantom page (separate chapters or all-in-one pdf), just scroll down to Description and click second tab (Instruction and Parts List). Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
Pau Posted August 20, 2017 #21 Posted August 20, 2017 Thanks, I have these instructions, but I fins sentences such as "This procedure will be demonstrated in class " utterly useless, as well as references to drawings that do not coincide "fig 9 on page 8" Quote
Chuck Posted August 20, 2017 #22 Posted August 20, 2017 What you need to realize is that the practicum was originally written for a classroom project and NOT for home use. Several new builders were working on the Phantom with my help and we met twice a week. We worked on the model together in a classroom environment. I was asked to also allow the MFG to place it on their site and I said it was OK. Folks thought it would be useful. The references to drawings in my guide were pointing to the actual instruction manual which came with the kit at the time...about 12 years ago. My guess is that the instructions have changed or at least the pagination. It is what it is. Still worth every penny....free. But if you have a question...dont be shy, ask your question in the appropriate forum or start a build log. Chuck Ryland Craze, Mumin, Tigersteve and 2 others 5 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Pau Posted August 20, 2017 #23 Posted August 20, 2017 Thanks for the explanations. My comments would have been different had I known the origin of the instructions. Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote
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