pirozzi Posted February 18, 2018 Author #541 Posted February 18, 2018 I finished all of the foremast running rigging that could be done at this point in the build. That was a lot of rigging. The plans are vague in some areas as to the belay points for some of the rigging. I had to rely on books from R.L. Anderson, Keith Julier, and the photo gallery from Euromodels for some information. Having experience in rigging these types of ships with full sails also helped. Having to do all this research makes this project all the more fun. Next up is the standing rigging for the foremast and the bowsprit running rigging. Vince P. marktiedens, BillLib, zappto and 1 other 4 Quote
pirozzi Posted February 21, 2018 Author #542 Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 5:09 AM, donrobinson said: This method is very interesting, and I am thinking of using it on my Stefano when the time comes. Do you think the sails will interfere with tying the shrouds and ratlines? Great looking ship! On 2/16/2018 at 5:09 AM, donrobinson said: This method is very interesting, and I am thinking of using it on my Stefano when the time comes. Do you think the sails will interfere with tying the shrouds and ratlines? Great looking ship! Hi Don, It does not interfere at all. I used it on building the Sovereign of the Seas. The only shrouds you will be doing is the lower ones. All of the others up above are done off ship. Vince P. Landlubber Mike 1 Quote
pirozzi Posted February 21, 2018 Author #543 Posted February 21, 2018 The spritsail topmast backstay is a complicated array of blocks in a spider weblike pattern. In order to get the whole thing to balance and tensioned evenly, I built a jig. I traced the diagram first from the plans and taped it to a board. Then using small nails I built the thing on the board. I will remove it and place it on the ship. More photos to follow. I used this method on the Sovereign of the Seas which had several large and even more complicated arrays for the mizzen mast upper stays and they came out perfect. Vince P. Altduck and marktiedens 2 Quote
pirozzi Posted February 23, 2018 Author #544 Posted February 23, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 5:09 AM, donrobinson said: This method is very interesting, and I am thinking of using it on my Stefano when the time comes. Do you think the sails will interfere with tying the shrouds and ratlines? Great looking ship! Hi Don, It will not interfere. I used this method on the Sovereign of the seas and it worked out well. I believe the whole issue with rigging is to work from the inside out. Doing the shrouds and ratlines first limits the ability to get inside where most of the rigging is, especially if rigging with sails. Vince P. Quote
pirozzi Posted February 23, 2018 Author #545 Posted February 23, 2018 Most of the standing rigging for the foremast and bowsprit is complete. The foremast backstays and shrouds will be done last. Next up is spars, sails, and running rigging for the bowsprit and spritsail topmast. Vince P. ken3335, DenPink, marktiedens and 1 other 4 Quote
pirozzi Posted March 8, 2018 Author #546 Posted March 8, 2018 Hi All, I found this great book, thanks to a new member here, Mark from Virginia USA. It is illustrated with actual drawings and paintings from the 1600's by the builders of war ships of the period of the mid to late 17th century. Also photos of various museum models. Since I am building the Royal William and Prince coming next, I thought it would be a good addition to my reference library. Not only is it a great book, but it has diagrams of rigging plans as well. I am building the RW with full rigged sails and the plans leave out some of the tiny details. I have been going back and forth to several sources trying to figure the running rigging out. This book has a complete diagram for rigging sails on a ship like the RW. In ten minutes it answered all the questions I had. It also has fabulous closeup photos of the decorations for the RW and the Prince and many other ships of the period. I got a used copy in almost new condition from Amazon for $149 US. Thanks Mark! Vince P. Kevin, Landlubber Mike, marktiedens and 2 others 5 Quote
pirozzi Posted March 13, 2018 Author #547 Posted March 13, 2018 Finally completed the standing and running rigging of the foremast and bowsprit. Only things left are the braces and lower shrouds of the foremast which will be done later in the build to allow access to the inside of the decks. This area of the ship has the most complicated and intense rigging considering you are really rigging 2 masts together, so the hardest part is over with. With the sails, as said before, the amount of rigging is much more complicated. I had to accomplish the rigging in layers from the inside out in order to have access when needed. I made a list of all of the lines and prioritized them by numbers and completed each in pairs. Next up is placing dozens of tiny rope coils to all of the belay points and then moving on to the mainmast. Vince P. Landlubber Mike, kmart, marktiedens and 3 others 6 Quote
DenPink Posted March 17, 2018 #548 Posted March 17, 2018 Hi Vince Nice work my friend. Is that the kits flag, if so thank god they have got it correct. Denis. Will send you an email. Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64
pirozzi Posted May 16, 2018 Author #549 Posted May 16, 2018 Finally another post. The mainmast is fully constructed and rigged. There was an enormous amount of work to complete this and that is why it took so long. I can only put in an hour or two here and there. I am partially furling the main course so the decks and their details can be seen on the finished model. Next is to step this mast to the ship and complete the standing rigging and belay all of the running rigging to the decks. Vince P. marktiedens, glennreader, kmart and 1 other 4 Quote
pirozzi Posted July 12, 2018 Author #550 Posted July 12, 2018 Completed the main mast and stepped it into the ship along with all of the standing and running rigging and the sails. Huge amount of additional rigging for the sails. Still have to complete the lower shrouds and braces. Next up is to complete the lower shrouds and rattlings for the foremast since the majority of the rigging to the decks is now completed. The remainder of the staysail running rigging ties off to the foremast shrouds before tying off to the deck. Vince P. kmart, marktiedens, Oliver24 and 3 others 6 Quote
Old Collingwood Posted July 12, 2018 #551 Posted July 12, 2018 Amazing work. OC. pirozzi and zappto 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
piratepete007 Posted July 13, 2018 #552 Posted July 13, 2018 Vince, Of all the models built and that I have seen from this Euromodel-supplied 'kit', I have to say that the detail shown in your build is just one of a few that stand out above the rest. You have emulated the fine detail from the drawings and this is the unsung hallmark of Euromodel; their drawings are there to be copied to the degree that you feel comfortable with …. and you are so comfortable with showing the absolute detail. Congratulations. Pete Zarkon, Landlubber Mike, marktiedens and 3 others 6 Quote
pirozzi Posted July 13, 2018 Author #553 Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, piratepete007 said: Vince, Of all the models built and that I have seen from this Euromodel-supplied 'kit', I have to say that the detail shown in your build is just one of a few that stand out above the rest. You have emulated the fine detail from the drawings and this is the unsung hallmark of Euromodel; their drawings are there to be copied to the degree that you feel comfortable with …. and you are so comfortable with showing the absolute detail. Congratulations. Pete Thanks Pete. It is fun to include as much detail as possible. The plans are very precise, but you really have to read them over and over to pick out every little detail. Old Collingwood, zappto and marktiedens 3 Quote
marktiedens Posted July 13, 2018 #554 Posted July 13, 2018 Hi Vince - you`re doing a great job - those sails look perfect!!! Mark zappto 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Landlubber Mike Posted August 12, 2018 #555 Posted August 12, 2018 Vince, I've been off MSW for the past couple of months but came across your build and wanted to say that I love the sails. Did you use the sail cloth that came with the kit? I just realized my LAR kit came with sail cloth, and I might just use it if it's the same stuff you are using. Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
pirozzi Posted August 13, 2018 Author #556 Posted August 13, 2018 Hi Mike, I did use the cloth from the kit but there was not enough. Since sewing is out of my league, I had a friend of mine who happens to be a seamstress, make the basic sails. She found more cloth that closely matched the kit. I had her stain the cloth with tea because it was very white. Real sails had a stained and weathered look. The tea did the job. When she delivered the sails, I added the corner cringles, the edge ropes, and the reefing ties. I think adding the sails makes for a more authentic model. It does however add a considerable amount of labor and supplies. Vince Landlubber Mike, Old Collingwood and kmart 3 Quote
pirozzi Posted November 13, 2018 Author #557 Posted November 13, 2018 I am still plugging along slowly. I decided to add Catharpins to the lower shrouds. They probably will be hard to notice, but this is just another bit of detail I am putting into this model. Vince P. marktiedens, Old Collingwood and Landlubber Mike 3 Quote
marktiedens Posted November 13, 2018 #558 Posted November 13, 2018 Nice! I remember doing those - a real pain. Mark Old Collingwood and pirozzi 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
pirozzi Posted November 29, 2018 Author #559 Posted November 29, 2018 Finally finished the foremast. All of the standing and running rigging is complete except for the Course sheet, clew, and tack lines. These will be done at the very end of the build to allow easy access to the sides of the hull for what is left. Next up is to construct the mizzen mast and step it. Then I can finish the main mast rigging. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. A few more months and she will be completed. 🤩 Vince P. Katsumoto, marktiedens, Landlubber Mike and 3 others 6 Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted November 30, 2018 #560 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) WOW! Outstanding! This is a magnificent ship, and you are doing a magnificent job with it. Congratulations!!! Edited November 30, 2018 by Ulises Victoria zappto, Old Collingwood and pirozzi 3 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
marktiedens Posted November 30, 2018 #561 Posted November 30, 2018 I agree - really nice! I really like the sails. Mark zappto and pirozzi 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Old Collingwood Posted November 30, 2018 #562 Posted November 30, 2018 Superb work - she is looking Gorgeous, the sails add so much detail and give her a 3D look. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
pirozzi Posted December 29, 2018 Author #563 Posted December 29, 2018 I am constructing the mizzen mast, the last one to go. As usual, I will complete it off ship first. Vince P. GrandpaPhil, marktiedens, Katsumoto and 1 other 4 Quote
pirozzi Posted January 4, 2019 Author #564 Posted January 4, 2019 The mizzen mast with the crossjack and the lateen yard and sail. Vince P. zappto, marktiedens, Landlubber Mike and 3 others 6 Quote
kmart Posted January 5, 2019 #565 Posted January 5, 2019 Vince, I'll repeat my early comments I made . Truly Magnificent!, Inspiring! I love the sails. They look great. Really adds to the model, makes it come alive from a static model to a real ship ready to sail out of port! K. pirozzi 1 Quote Current Build: USS Constitution ( Model Expo) Past Builds: HMS Victory Bow Section British Armed Launch Friesland (Dutch 74 - 1663) Roger B. Taney (US Revenue Cutter )
pirozzi Posted January 21, 2019 Author #566 Posted January 21, 2019 The mizzen mast is completed and is ready to step into the ship. Vince P. piratepete007 and marktiedens 2 Quote
pirozzi Posted January 23, 2019 Author #567 Posted January 23, 2019 The mizzen mast is stepped into the ship and now awaits the standing rigging and the belay of the running rigging. Vince P. Landlubber Mike, marktiedens, Oliver24 and 2 others 5 Quote
Landlubber Mike Posted January 23, 2019 #568 Posted January 23, 2019 Beautiful work Vince! Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
piratepete007 Posted January 23, 2019 #569 Posted January 23, 2019 Very, very impressive Vince. Its not often we see the sails added including the stay sails. Quote
pirozzi Posted February 10, 2019 Author #570 Posted February 10, 2019 The mizzen mast is completed with all of the running rigging and the poop deck flag pole is installed. The lower shrouds and backstays will be completed later. Next up is to complete the main mast lower shrouds and back stays. Vince P. Landlubber Mike, zappto, coxswain and 5 others 8 Quote
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