jiljilia Posted April 16, 2014 Share #1 Posted April 16, 2014 Could someone tell me the best way to place rope edging around the edge of sails. I really have know idea on how that is achieved as the plans of the Amati Arrow call for this edging. Thanks Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted April 16, 2014 Share #2 Posted April 16, 2014 In real life this is sewn on. However, i doubt if you'd want to go to the trouble on a model sail. The bolt rope can be carefully glued along the perimeter of the sail using white glue. This will dry clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiljilia Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted April 17, 2014 Thanks. I kinda thought that but wasn't sure if white glue was the glue to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 17, 2014 Share #4 Posted April 17, 2014 Or, you can use fabric glue. Both seem to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 17, 2014 Share #5 Posted April 17, 2014 Fabric glue will dry with more flexibility, but both will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petervisser Posted April 17, 2014 Share #6 Posted April 17, 2014 On the other hand, if you like to sew, here is what I did which turned out nice. A simple round stitch along the edges of the sail holds the bolt rope in place. Very theraputic... Peter tasmanian, mtaylor, jwvolz and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 17, 2014 Share #7 Posted April 17, 2014 I did the same as Peter on my Mayflower, but I used a small amount of fabric glue to attach the "rope" first and hold it in place while I stitched. Mirabell61, mtaylor, jwvolz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 17, 2014 Share #8 Posted April 17, 2014 Could someone tell me the best way to place rope edging around the edge of sails. I really have know idea on how that is achieved as the plans of the Amati Arrow call for this edging. Thanks Hi jiljilia, here is a Version which is complete machine-sewn, also the bolt rope to the edge.. I boroughed my wife`s sewing machine Nils ulrich, Angarfather, cristikc and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiljilia Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks for all the great ideas. This helps greatly. HIPEXEC, newbuilder101 and Mirabell61 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadeusz43 Posted April 20, 2014 Share #10 Posted April 20, 2014 This is my way for sailmaking: http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=427 Tadeusz My models:From kitsVasa, HMS Victory, Le Solei Royale, FrieslandFrom scratchHMS Warrior 1860,Esplanade,Grosse YachtNorman’s ship,HMS Speedy,La RoyalePeter von DanzigPolacca XVII cent.Current project:SS Savannah 1818 newbuilder101 and Mirabell61 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 20, 2014 Share #11 Posted April 20, 2014 nice sail making Tadeusz43, thanks for sharing.. Nils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted April 20, 2014 Share #12 Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) I would caution that actual sail twine used to sew on a bolt rope is not nearly as thick as even the finest of sewing threads would appear in scale. Modern sail twine is just a bit thicker than dental floss and although I imagine it was considerably thicker "in the old days" before nylon, it could not be sewn through any fabric if it was as thick as even the thinest rope. Having said that, I do like the way an actual sewn seam or line of stitching puckers the fabric a little, it tend to impart a texture to the fabric that adds to the organic look of a sail, even if these puckers themselves are out of scale. Edited April 20, 2014 by JerseyCity Frankie captainbob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jud Posted April 20, 2014 Share #13 Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Does anyone apply any product like Scotch Guard to their sails before attaching them to their model, to protect them from airborne dust.and also making them easier to clean. jud Edited April 20, 2014 by jud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiljilia Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted April 20, 2014 Tadeusz43 I like the step by step on the sails as the rope edging is exposed and that's how I have to do my sails. Thanks. Petervisser... the therapeutic lessons are coming I'm sure and sometimes my patience does were thin and sewing a thread around a rope will, I'm sure increase patience. Sherry, thank you for your ideas for gluing as I did go out and buy myself a tube of speed-sew. Mirabell61... I copied your plans for my files as there are ideas that I like in what you do with sails. Thanks to everyone as the time to do my sails is drawing nigh. Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted September 5, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 5, 2017 Hi snowy here i like that idea could someone show me how to make the sails from scratch mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted September 5, 2017 Share #16 Posted September 5, 2017 http://todd.mainecav.org/model/sail-making/ mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 5, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 5, 2017 For yet another approach, see the topic under 'Reviews': Swan IV, Sailmaking Supplement. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted September 5, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Gluing the boltrope onto the sail COMPLETELY AVOIDS out of scale thread and out of scale stitching. I honestly can't think of any good reason to sew the boltrope onto a model sail other than if one is slavishly sticking to real world practice out of a sense of litteral interpretation. But even then the sailtwine passes through not around the boltrope. Edited September 5, 2017 by JerseyCity Frankie Gregory and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted September 6, 2017 Share #19 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Sewn, glued, or soldiered, the boltrope does not attach the the knife edge of the cloth. Edited September 6, 2017 by GeraldTodd mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted September 8, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 8, 2017 Thanks guys i like this I'm building the amati adventure pirate ship I'm about to start furnishing the deck thanks again mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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