augie Posted April 24, 2015 Share #91 Posted April 24, 2015 I'll say. In fact maybe I'll trade you 36 finished guns for the woodwork on the head. Nice. GLakie 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share #92 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) very kind fellas,......could have been more accurate, but i guess i lay down the parameters as to how far i want to go......naaaa augie.....you'll breeze through the head build....it's hard, but so much fun.....never bored....focus is so strong....brain challenge, battling bad habits....learning new techniques........ha...when i finish something, i finally figure out how to do it......now if i can only remember it Edited April 24, 2015 by yancovitch Rustyj, augie and GLakie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share #93 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) decided to stamp the cap squares over a filed down nail with a slotted screw as a punch......quoin handle.... bristle from a plastic broom...melted the end which i figure would be nice to prevent hand from slipping off ........that's if for awhile........... Edited April 26, 2015 by yancovitch EJ_L, UpstateNY, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted April 25, 2015 Share #94 Posted April 25, 2015 A nylon broom-bristle for a quoin handle----clever! Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 25, 2015 Share #95 Posted April 25, 2015 Hi Vic, just caught up with your Progress update on Confederacy, its such a Beauty and I see you`re leaving the wooden tones as natural Color scheme, (love it) Congrats to this lovely build.... Nils GLakie 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share #96 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) thanks, nils,,,do you mean leaving off painting the lower wale black?.............and....anyone know what happened to Ben Trussler and his build? Edited April 26, 2015 by yancovitch Trussben, GLakie and Mirabell61 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 26, 2015 Share #97 Posted April 26, 2015 Vic, yes. the lower wale in dull black is a contrast in well harmony with the natural wood. BTW. For gallerie, tafferal, bow, and those places whwere you have chosen the black background for your decoration it looks elegant and just right, I like it very much Nils GLakie 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share #98 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) ok......was going to leave it natural, but my wife who is 10 years younger than i, likes the black wale....and she will have to live with it when i kick the bucket...she's kind of, sort of, in a way,....the boss..... ....too bad i wasn't able to get the same wood for the stem and stern.......something i'll have to live with back to the cannons oh....that's just a piece of electrical tape Edited April 26, 2015 by yancovitch jwvolz, GLakie, Dubz and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted April 27, 2015 Share #99 Posted April 27, 2015 ALWAYS essential to keep the Admiral happy. Mine just noticed the 'torpedo hole' on the starboard side and proclaimed 'I hope you're going to fix that' ! UpstateNY and GLakie 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share #100 Posted April 27, 2015 hahahaha! GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted April 27, 2015 Share #101 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Vic. Your doing a fantastic job on your Confederacy. As they say you've gotta keep the admiral (boss) happy. Ben is busy in the scratch build section doing a pof Pegasus. GLakie 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share #102 Posted April 27, 2015 thanks rusty....not doing as many dumb things as i did in the beginning .....oh.....just thought i'd get some feedback regarding rigging, which i intend to do..... i noticed on the photo, that the main mast is exceptionally tall...seems like it would be quite a strain carrying all that sail.....andit's yard is the same length as the one on the foremast which is strange...guess it's because of the height.....also, aside from the mizzen mast, all masts have the same diameter, which again is strange.....just thought i'd get some feedback.......i wonder what the taubman plans look like...can't afford to find out right now................ GLakie, JerryTodd, qwerty2008 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted April 28, 2015 Share #103 Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Hi Vic, You, Augie and all the rest of you experts who have built or are building this gorgeous kit by Chuck also inspired me, so I will be building the Confederacy as my next kit build. While I am biting off more than I can probably chew, I am also going to fully rig her as well so it is great to know you plan to blaze the trail here! In case it helps you, Chuck was kind enough to point me towards the Corother's plans to follow for the rigging. Note in case you purchase them as well, Chuck warned me the belaying points are wrong, so I am now looking for Hahn reference plans from a similar era frigate, so I can figure out what exactly is wrong! So see the below image of the plans. I can't post anything more detailed given copyright concerns. For mast and spar dimensions, take a look at the 1956 NRG article by Douglas Robinson. He has multiple measurements from different sources including the Admiralty measurements taken after the Confederacy was captured. Note the main mast per the Admiralty measurements was much higher at 97ft as compared to 88ft noted down by Joshua Humphreys. Robinson notes it could have been stepped in England as seems the main was badly sprung after her capture. Cheers, Nigel. Edited April 29, 2015 by UpstateNY CaptMorgan, EJ_L, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted April 28, 2015 Share #104 Posted April 28, 2015 Another Confed will be a welcome addition to the growing fleet, Nigel. With you and yancovitch fully rigging, it will be exciting. I know that Andy (realworkingsailor) also has one that he plans to rig. Now if I only had a bigger house........ GLakie and UpstateNY 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share #105 Posted April 28, 2015 sorry....does sprung mean warped or split?............will have to rely on info gleaned from this forum, as i can't afford any plans or whatever at this time......that drawing seems to make sense, although i thought the main and mizzen masts would be raked to the rear different degrees.....and is it the 88ft length on these plans?....fraid i'm not very knowledgable....i just see something i like and want to make it ..a romantic .......i'm not good at detailed research.... GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted April 28, 2015 Share #106 Posted April 28, 2015 Hi Vic, Well, I am not knowledgeable about any of this, but only way to learn is to try new stuff. Part of the fun for me. Your work is beautiful so sure you will do a fabulous job rigging her. I love the Admiralty builds, but will also have to really improve my woodworking skills to do the Confederacy justice given all the exposed timbers. I've not had time to check the plans, but will do so after work tonight and let you know what I find as regards the main mast. Finally, a sprung mast is a cracked or split mast which exhausted my knowledge so a quick check on the internet indicated it can be caused by a failure of the standing rigging. Cheers, Nigel. GLakie 1 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted April 29, 2015 Share #107 Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Vic, Just checked the plans and main mast length measures at 88 ft. I then checked the main yard length which at 86ft 6in also matches the mast/spar specs as recorded by Joshua Humphreys. I also just found notes on the plans showing Corothers referencing Douglas's article so right now I think his plans try to show the Confederacy as built by Jedidah Willets in 1778. As regards the mast angles, plans show the foremast is vertical. Main and mizzen rakes are the same, but both are very shallow at only 1/8in per foot. Hope this helps. Cheers, Nigel. GLakie 1 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share #108 Posted April 29, 2015 thanks for your efforts......have a way to go yet but bits of info will accumulate....cheers vic GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #109 Posted May 28, 2015 awe.......housework has taken priority now that the warm weather has arrived up north here.....have to hold off a bit.....the lady of the house has a lot of to do's to do ................hope things will slow down soon, so i can get back to gun rigging........ augie, GLakie, UpstateNY and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted May 30, 2015 Share #110 Posted May 30, 2015 Just catching up on your Confed Vic, I'm still around but working on a full scratch built POF at the moment so my Confed is on the blocks for a while. Ben GLakie and augie 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share #111 Posted May 30, 2015 nice to say hello.....think i can get back to work on the ship as most of the renovations around the house are completed.....unless the admiral has something else up her sleeve ..... GLakie, Rustyj and augie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share #112 Posted May 31, 2015 by the way....thanks glakie for your kind words.....also nigel...haha....i'm still thinking of leaving off the black wale GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share #113 Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) ach....procrastinating rigging the guns, so i put a stand together so i can finish up the basic outside hull, and not have to touch or rub it anymore.......cut up a couple of wooden candle holders....as i don't have a lathe and finding brass ornaments is too difficult up here in no mans land.....may sand down the base of the pedstals so they'r not as wide, and make them shorter.....hmmm the black wale may look good in this situation hmmmmm.......i'm just posting to encourage myself to get going again.....been slack......cheers.... Edited June 18, 2015 by yancovitch Rustyj, Jack12477, EJ_L and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted June 18, 2015 Share #114 Posted June 18, 2015 Honestly I think the candle holders look nice with her good solid base good hight I wouldn't change it unless you feel it needs it Your girl is a beauty love how she's turning out GLakie 1 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share #115 Posted June 19, 2015 thanks...jolly good.... GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted June 19, 2015 Share #116 Posted June 19, 2015 Gorgeous ship and gorgeous build. Very nice work! GLakie 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share #117 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) thanks mike, very kind.....and here i go again, getting distracted!.....decided to make a dragon head for a dragon boat someone donated to the recreation center here.......sheesh!.............. Edited June 20, 2015 by yancovitch GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share #118 Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) back to business.......still avoiding gun rigging so i put a few things together, but rigging will be next......found this wheel online, but i think it's too chubby.....may have to end up buying the expensive one from caldercraft or deal with the metal wheel in kit which seems too small and thin....hmmm...from one extreme to another............ Edited July 22, 2015 by yancovitch UpstateNY, etubino, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted July 22, 2015 Share #119 Posted July 22, 2015 Those fitting look great Yancovitch. Especially nice job on the Brodie Stove. I agree about the wheel, as that one looks a little "fat". Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 22, 2015 Share #120 Posted July 22, 2015 Nice job on the stand! The furniture looks good....that stove IS fun to build. Wheel could be a tad thinner but it's a matter of how you feel about it. GLakie 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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