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Lovely work Theo,

 

just let the natural Wood Colors work on the appearance, it Looks great

 

Nils

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Thanks everyone for the feedback, comments and likes, every single one of them is appreciated a lot   :)

 

After a few weeks of “relaxing” I’m working on the ST again..

I managed to manufacture and install the balusters and rails for the quarterdeck just before my holidays.

"Not exactly" as suggested by the kit, but not so much different either.. 

.. i added a few extra details to them with the previously mentioned techniques..

 

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So today I started to produce the pin racks.

Instead of the suggested “square look” I decided to give them rounded edges and milled a rabbet in them ..

 

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To fasten them better to the bulwarks I decided to reinforce them with 2 pcs Ø0,8mm brass wire.

After using the same holes as a template for the bulwarks holes, I glued the wire in position and finished off with a 0.8mm treenail.  

 

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The result 

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

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Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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..An minor update..

I’m working on some details for the channels, chains and lower deadeyes.

The instructions/drawings are not really revealing anything about this, so I searched the forum/internet for as much detail as possible.

 

I started with straps for the lower deadeyes and ended up with these:

 

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If you’re interested, I show in another topic in “Wooden Tips and Tricks and Making Jigs”  LINK how I made these.

 

..The ST uses chains to fix the lower deadeyes to the hull..

According to the instructions this is simply done with a “nail”, but this seemed a bit to basic for me..

 

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So again after searching the net I found out that these are normally fixed in place with help of an “preventer”.

I made one, and it looks much better already but I still wasn’t really satisfied.

 

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So I made another version which I think looks better, but is (off course) more difficult and time consuming to make..

 

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Here’s a picture showing all 3 solutions.

.. during blackening of the provided nails i also found out that they are not made of brass/copper :huh: .. 

 

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.. I think there’s no other way and I have to settle for solution no.3 ..

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

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Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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Thank you for the nice comment Schnu.

Luckily the chain used is provided by the kit and it can be used as it is.

However, I’m not sure yet what to do with the nails..

..either I leave them “as is” or I’ll might have to paint them..  

Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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I think you are right Sjors and I probably will paint them black ..

On the other hand my canon lids also have “shiny” nails, so.. who knows ..

 

But before I will make that decision, I decided that it would be wise to do some “cannon-port” rigging before installing the channels permanent..

 

To ease the rigging (and alignment) of these, I removed the "eye" from the lid, fixed the rope to it and glued a piece of Ø1mm blackened brass tube on the rope and installed it once more.

 

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Even dough this seems like a good solution, it will still take me quite some time to rig all of them..

Here's the result sofar ..

 

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..and with the channel in place ..

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

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Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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Thank you all for visiting, comments and for hitting the like button.

 

Continuing ...

The instructions instructs to “drill holes” in the channel for the deadeyes.

but after “all my research”, I decided to do it a bit more authentic and wanted to “carve” dedicated slots for the deadeyes and to install a “capping strip”

 

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I “thought” I was very thorough when I marked all the positions for the slots and preventers.  

 

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But it turned out to be a real puzzle to get everything in place.

Somehow I placed this deadeye not so nice when looking at the shooting angles of the cannon behind it..

 

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It turns out that there’s just not much space to play around with..

After a quick fix of this mistake and moving the slots "a bit more" to the left, it became a bit better but it’s still not really perfect..

 

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On this picture you can also see that i have additionally strengthened the channel with (3) nails

 

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Here’s the final result with all the chains installed. 

At least it can shoot “straight” without damaging the deadeye and rigging  :P

 

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“Another bonus”,  I rigged all the canon hatches and have now installed all the cannons on port side.

 

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.."Quite impressive firepower" she had..

 

Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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Theo,

 

Here I'am again  :D  :D

Chainplate looks perfect !

Nice idea to "cut" the holes for the deadeye's.

But.....You are not the only one with this problem.

Sometimes there is no different way to do it different when a shroud is blocking a cannon.

The only answer that I can tell you is that that cannon is a spare one........or reserve.

But you find a lovely solution for it.

Building is just like chess......look 3 steps forward and one step back.

 

Sjors

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Hej Sjors & Schnu
Thanks for dropping in and the comments, they are as always very welcome.
 
This way of installing the lower deadeyes and using a capping strip seems to have been common praxis in the old days and it is actually a quite easy way of implementing them.
 
I made a really good decision by not drilling  the holes on the locations pointed out by the instructions and shown in the drawing…
This would have been a disaster for me as in my case it would even have blocked a few more cannons ports.
 
So I agree with you Sjors, it is really important to look a few steps forward and not to rush things  ;)
 
Ups.. I forgot to mention: 

Never trust the instructions and/or drawings and always "double check" yourself  :P 

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

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very nice photo's

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


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Theo,

 

Super nice update. Your attention to details is so impressive. She's a beauty.

 

 

PS: following your build led me to decide on building the carriages for mine, as well as rigging them correctly. I so appreciated the effort you took with your weather deck guns - they look so awesome (:-)

 

Cheers,

 

Michael

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Yes !!!

 

....It has taken some time..

(so this will not even be an update with a lot of dazzling new stuff..)

but ....

 

I managed to install all the channels on port and starboard including all the lower deadeyes and the corresponding chains !

In parallel I rigged all cannon hatches and installed all the armory "OcCre" has included in the kit. 

 

Naturally here are some pictures of the final result..

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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Theo,

 

Beautiful project, such a wealth of perfectly executed details.!! As you know you were the catalyst for my efforts at hand building the carriages on mine. I am really enjoying following your build. Also a really impressive ship. 

 

MIchael

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for your nice comments Michael, Randy & Sjors, and thanks to everyone for visiting/using the like button.

 

Finally I have some time to spend on some other details of the ST..

I had an idea in my head about how to create my own version of the poop lantern ..

 

Too be sure I use the right dimensions I started out with an template and made sure everything was in the same scale.

 

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Creating the frame for the glass was a bit of a struggle (after several attempts) I found a "easy" way to manufacture these ..   

I used my mill setup (with an X-Y table) to have length consistency of the individual frame parts …

 

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And used the table saw (with some “homemade” additions) to get the needed thickness of the frame.

 

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The result after cutting/assembling them.

 

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I used the same technique for the muntins and assembled them with the template I made earlier to make sure they fit inside the frames.

 

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I made a top & bottom of 2 different sized pieces of 0.6 mm finer...

... and to make life a bit easier, i used a brass bar to keep the frames in place during the gluing process.

 

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So far so good, the wrap up will follow soon...

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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Hi Theo,

 

Very nice work, I look forward to seeing the lantern complete.  Your project is a true work of art.  Thank you for sharing.

Jack

 

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..Thank you Jack..

 

So here's the promised wrap up..

Next thing was to add some nice attributes so it really starts to looks like a lantern, (and to hide some of the imperfections of the wood).

 

.. I started with “twisting” 3 strings of Ø 0.4 mm brass wire with a drill, pictures will show later where i used it.

 

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I used a “rounding over” and an “edge cutter” and milled the profiles into 2 laths and by using the table saw I cut them into 4 individually shaped laths (but I ended up in only using 3 shapes..)

 

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Then i really challenged the table saw by cutting them into 8 egual angled pieces (2x22,5 degrees cuts).

 

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And could glue these into "perfectly" shaped octagons..

 

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Glued the different octagons on top and bottom..

 

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And camouflaged the “rough” sides of the lantern with pieces of twisted (blackened) brass wire.

..the final finish was to glue an (cannon) ball on top and to add a Ø1,5mm stick  and to cut the holder for it …

 

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Taa-daa..

 

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So next project will be to create the 2 "smaller" lanterns.. 

.. the ST has not "1", but "3" lanterns :huh:  

Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

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Finished Projects:

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