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HMS Victory 1805 by Bertu - Caldercraft - Scale 1:72

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Ian,

Thank you, can't wait to start the second planking. This weekend I should finish the first planking and post some images.

 

Mike,

Thank you. I don't mind a little contest as long as it is not extreme and the wood has a good finish.

 

Robert

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First planking ready.  It wasn't easy, but I'm quite happy with the result.  I think I learned a few things as I went along, what I should and what I shouldn't do next time. Now I have to decide if I am to copper or not.  If not I have to be much more careful with the second planking.

 

A few images of the first planking not yet sanded and finished.

 

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Robert

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First planking ready.  It wasn't easy, but I'm quite happy with the result.

 

Robert

 

Well you certainly made it look easy, excellent result, you have a great base for the second planking now :)

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Job well done! Sit back and admire your hard work. Can I suggest that you leave your options open with respect to coppering? To do so you only have to do as great a job as you did with your first planking - and, I suggest, use defined plank lengths. I think you will find that a plank length of say 85 mm (20 feet) or 100 mm will allow you to adequately edge bend and pseudo-spile around the bow. 

​Best, Ian 

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What a wonderfull job!

 

I was thinking maybe I will do a wooden kit as next project but when i see this kind of work and the amount of tools im not sure if i will do that. It looks so difficult but again very very nice.

 

 

Grtz Ray

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Thank you all for your comments.  Sorry for not replying before but I have been very busy, in fact I don't really have anything new to post.  Before I start the second planking I have to assemble the quarter galleries, including the lights for them, so I have to do a bit of thinking how to wire them.

 

Ray,

Don't be discouraged and you don't really need that much tools.  There are some tools that although it is a help to have, but you can do without.  I found the Bluenose II very helpful to learn on and gain some experience,  mind you I still have a long way to go.  Some builds I see on this forum are really a piece of art.

 

Heinz,

I am impressed with YOUR work. As I am thinking of not coppering the hull I have been having a close look at your great hull planking.  Did you slightly bevel the edges of each individual plank to make them stand out more?

 

Robert

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Hello Robert, 

 

yes, that is exactly what I have done. I rounded the edges with sandpaper to make them stand out. Otherwise you could not really see that they are builded in a special way. Especially when the color of each plank is very similar and you work very clean it may have the look of a laminate. 

 

In fact, I went even further. I took an old and small screwdriver, using it like a little chisel, and made a  slot between the planks. I filled the slot with black wood filler to simulate the caulking. This has made the individual plank even more visible. 

 

This procedure has another big advantage: you don´t have to work 110 percent correct. It´s no problem if the plank does´t fit exactly, because you NEED these little spaces between the planks for the wood filler :-) 

 

Maybe your read my comment on Ian´s blog (Seventynet). He worked so clean and correct, that you have problems to find the single plank. And this is really a shame, because he used this special but and top-technic for his wales. But Ian told me that he will surprise us with a secret solution. I am very curious to see :-)

 

Best wishes and 

keep on the good work!

 

Heinz

 

P.S.: if you take a closer look to my first planking, you will see that I have had much problems with it. Starting with the gun ports I have to renew and ending with 1 kg wood spatula. My victory could not compare with yours at this point :-)

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Heinz,

Thank you for your reply, very much appreciated.   I haven't started the second planking yet. Presently I am working on the quarter galleries and they are taking me more time than I thought as I am am fitting the lights in them and had to do quite a bit of thinking to avoid any wiring or lamps showing through the windows.  Will post some pictures when I have made some more progress.

 

Robert

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Fitted part of the quarter galleries and their lights.  

 

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Lights well hidden in the space between the  galleries.

 

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I try every light I fit to make sure the connections are ok.  After I fit the skins there is no way I could get to them again.

 

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Lights for the stern galleries.  Wiring still underway. I have also prepared the resistances for the three stern lanterns.  Very thin wires will be soldered to the small circuit boards and passed through very thin copper pipes to supply the power to the lights in the lanterns, HOPEFULLY!!!!

 

 

Robert

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Planking and galleries look great, Robert.

Re 2nd planking and wales: I bevelled the latter but not the former.

Like others I used anchor stock and top-and-but system for the wales, and because I plan to paint the hull, the bevelling was necessary.

There is some debate about which wale has the anchor stock,and which one has the top-and-but. I followed McKay.

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Not much to show.  Unfortunately I am not finding enough time as much as I would have liked to.  I finished planking the middle deck.  I used the four butt shift system.  There is a very good article in this forum's 'Ship Modelling Resources'.  The title is Simple Butt-Shift Deck Planking by Ulises Victoria.  For the plank edges I used a 6B pencil. I gave it two coats of matt varnish but was thinking of finishing it with a coat of satin matt varnish.

 

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Robert

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Thank you for your comments and likes, really appreciate them.  They give me more determination for the next step.

 

More work on the quarter galleries.

 

Bent and fitted the upper and lower counter patterns.

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Fitted the skins.

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Robert

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Nice neat work as usual Robert and a good job putting the curve in the counter pattern. that piece is very fragile when it's wet :) :)

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Thank you Bob. You are right about the counter pattern in fact while wetting and bending it ply sheets had already started to come apart :o .  I had to insert glue at the edges and clamp it.

 

Robert

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Very nice deck.

Personally I would not use a satin finish.

Generally in models, it is better to finish more matt than in real life.

Paul

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Very nice deck.

Personally I would not use a satin finish.

Generally in models, it is better to finish more matt than in real life.

Paul

I agree 100% :)

But it's your build and totally your decision :)

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Paul / Bob,

 

You are right, in fact after I finished it with a satin coat I sanded it lightly again with a piece of very fine steel wool and brought it back to matt.

 

 

Jimz66,

 

Thank you for your comment.

 

 

Robert

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Very nice job on the lower counter and the quarter qalleries Robert. I made a mess of my lower counter and had to replank it.

 

Best, Ian

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Hello there, my apologies for the long absence from this great forum.  Unfortunately I had to shelve the project for some time due to my work.  Last summer I was extremely busy and I was working very late in the evenings as well.  Now I basically settled down and I started on the Victory build again.  I have a lot of catching up to do, visiting your builds.  Hopefully coming summer will be more relaxing and have time for the build which I enjoy doing.

 

Going forward I decided on the following hull finish

·         Upper part of the hull to be paint finished as per the instructions manual.

·         Lower part of the hull not to be covered with copper plates but leave with the second planking timber finish. 

·         Use the same walnut strips supplied with the kit cut into 85mm lengths to represent 20ft planks and use the four butt shift system.  I will take Heinz’s idea of leaving a very small gap between the planks and use black filler.  This will enhance the outline of each plank.

 

So here goes my update for my last slow progress:

 

Lined the side doors.

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Marked the positions of the lower and middle wales and planned the positions of the planks.   From the lower edge of the lower wale to the keel I divided into bands.  I made this with string by measuring the widest part of the hull and divided in 25mm bands (5 planks x 5mm), making sure nowhere else is wider then 25mm or narrower than 12.5mm (half the total of 5 planks).  If everything goes according to plan there should be no stealers.   Took me quite some time to plan the bands.

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Marked the individual runs of the planks from the upper edge of the middle wale down to the lower edge of the lower wale.

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First rows of second planking.  You can see that some of the planks are not cut into 85mm lengths.  That is because they are going to be covered again with the wales.

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Robert

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Great to see you back at your fine build Robert. That looks like a very nice plank line. I used very thin battens to get the feel for how the planks would lie in choosing my band geometry. At least for the second side, which turned out better. I didn't think of using string and maybe that would have been easier.

ian 

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Hello  Robert!

 

welcome back! 

 

I could not wait to see your Vic growing and how you implement "my idea" :-)

 

Good luck for your planking!!!

 

-Heinz-

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