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Well, the "newbie" to PE just encountered his first screw-up. While looking over the kit and PE parts, I discovered that the PE enhancement kit does not include doors or deck hatches, those are in a separate package. So it's back to MegaHobbies for the remaining parts. (what's that old saw about a ship being a big hole in the ocean into which you pour money ) In the meantime, I can work on prepping the hull and deck for priming and painting while I wait for the order to come in.
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Kevin, Denis, Ken, Greg, Ryland, welcome aboard. Greg (@RGL), you've set a very high standard to follow. Glad to have you along for the build. Chris (@ccoyle), drifting a little off-topic is okay with me as long as we don't get too far adrift.
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Mark, welcome aboard. And, yes, you are correct, the brothers were from Waterloo, Iowa.
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Lou, Thanks for the history lesson. I was vaguely familiar with the overall history of the Battle of the Philippine sea and Leyte Gulf from the old TV series Victory at Sea (yes, I am that ancient of days) but not the the individual battles. And, yes, The Sullivans was decommissioned in 1946 and assigned to the Pacific Reserve Fleet. It was re-commissioned in 1951 and returned to active duty. Wikipedia has some of her history There is a second ship named The Sullivans (DDG-68) an Arleigh Burke-class Aegis guided missile destroyer commissioned in 1997. Al-Qaeda attempted to attack and blow her up in 2000 but they failed. They later successfully attacked the USS Cole in the same year. I believe I saw a model of the 2nd ship (DDG-68) offered, which I may build at a later date.
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You and Lou have me on that one. I confess I am not very up-to-date on WWII Naval battle history and even less knowledgeable about WWI Naval battles.
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Some photos of The Sullivans that I took in September 2011 showing her tied up at the wharf alongside the cruiser Little Rock at the Buffalo (NY) Naval Park. I plan to return and get some more photos and take the tour of the ship.
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Tom Welcome ! I've never done PE before either, so this will be interesting. Re: Ice boat, Thanks. But you could scratch build a ice boat, there's no hull to build or plank, just a keel aka backbone, runner plank, mast, spars.
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Not sure yet, Mark. I have to inventory the kit first and see what is included and read the instructions thru and do some more research.
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Chris, there were 2 kits purchased at the same time including the PE Brass so I didn't break everything down cost wise. The Sullivans kit was 25.73 and the John S Brown Liberty ship (also 1:350 Trumpeter) was $38.72 from HobbyLinc, total for 2 kits with tax and shipping $74. The brass PE for both ships totaled $63 from MegaHobbies, tax and shipping included. The Hold/Fold tool, Black acrylic mat, and extra bending tool totaled $99.87 from The Small Shop (Oregon ??) tax and shipping included. So for two kits, including PE it was about $137 for both kits. The extra tools were a "wanna-have" extra. To answer the second part of your question: I've been modelling plastic for probably 50-60 years off and on, mostly in 1:35 scale Tamiya armor, fully camouflaged/weathered using an airbrush free hand (no masking), and super-detailed using a variety of stuff. Also did a lot of N-scale model railroading models in plastic, wood and a little card-stock. If you remember the Hubley & Gabriel metal car/truck kits, I also did a bunch of them. My Dad was a huge model railroading fan, started with Lionel right after the war (that's WWII ) , then S-scale when it was introduced, skipped over TT-scale, and went to HO scale, built most of his HO rolling stock from Athern (and others) kits; he and I built some of his rolling stock cars together, so it's sort of in my blood. Shep Paine's books and FineScale Modeler magazine provided a lot of modeling references for the Tamiya armor models. (Before I found MSW ) - I have close to 40 some-odd Tamiya 1:35 scale armor models, including a couple of unopened kits. But this is my first excursion into PE Brass detailing. Watching the builds of RGL, COG, Semourbutts, et al, peeked my interest into trying PE myself. Another reason is that I am running out of room for the larger wood ship models and need to do something a little smaller in overall size. I still have 4 wood kits on the shelf waiting for me to open them. Someone starting out could easily built these two ships out of the box without the PE add-ons and still get a lot of experience and satisfaction and not break the "piggy-bank".
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For my next build I have chosen to “go rogue” and join @RGL, @COG, @Canute, @Old Collingwood, and @Popeye the Sailor and build a plastic kit with Photo Etched Brass. The kit is 1:350 scale Trumpter model of the Fletcher Class destroyer The Sullivans DD537. The PE Brass is from Tom’s Modelworks. The Sullivans is a United States Navy ship named in honor of the five Sullivan brothers (George, Francis, Joseph, Madison, and Albert) aged 20 to 27 who lost their lives when their ship, USS Juneau, was sunk by a Japanese submarine during the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal on 13 November 1942. This was the greatest military loss by any one American family during World War II. She was also the first ship commissioned in the Navy that honored more than one person. After service in both World War II and the Korean War, The Sullivans was assigned to the 6th Fleet and was a training ship until she was decommissioned on 7 January 1965. In 1977, she and cruiser USS Little Rock (CG-4) were processed for donation to the Buffalo and Erie County Naval & Military Park in Buffalo, New York. The ship now serves as a memorial and is open for public tours. I chose The Sullivans partly because I have visited it while visiting my daughter in Buffalo and I can easily obtain detailed photos of her as needed during the build. DD-537's specifications are: Length: 376 feet 6 inches Beam: 39 feet 8 inches Draught: 17 feet 9 inches Crew: 329 Displacement: 2,050 tons Max Speed: 35 knots (40mph) Fuel Capacity: 492 tons of fuel oil Range: 6,500 nautical miles Original Armament: Five 5 inch 38 cal gun mounts Ten 40mm Bofors AA cannon in five dual mounts Seven 20mm Oerlikon AA cannon Two 5 tube 21 inch Torpedo Tubes Two 24 round Hedgehog Anti Submarine Mortar Projectors Six Depth Charge Projectors Two Stern Depth Charge Racks Current Armament: Four 5 inch 38 cal gun mounts Four 40mm Bofors AA cannon in dual mounts Four 20mm Oerlikon AA cannon Two 3 tube Mk32 Torpedo launchers Two 24 round Hedgehog Anti Submarine Mortar Projectors One Stern Depth Charge Rack Power Plant: 4 Babcock & Wilcox oil fired boilers powering 2 General Electric steam turbines driving 2 screws with 60,000 Shaft Horsepower Launching Date: April 4, 1943 at the Bethlehem Steel Company, San Francisco, CA The obligatory box and contents photos follow:
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Thanks everyone for your kind comments and Likes. It's been fun bringing you a taste of Hudson Valley history and our winter recreational sport.
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You most definitely will. It was also at this year's conference as a work in progress. I will be taking it to our Hudson River Ice Yacht Club winter meeting in December also. I'll post pictures here later.
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Michael, the shipwrights of the mid-1800s looked at the Dutch boats and the cradles they used to sail their cargo boats on the frozen Hudson River and decided that the ribs and planking were not essential. Their desire was to build a boat suitable for racing on the ice in winter and they were mostly financed by the families of America's Gilded Age, e.g., Roosevelt, Vanderbilt, Astor, Livingston, etc. whose homes lined the eastern shore of the Hudson,. The rigging on this ice yacht was quite challenging especially the blocks controlling the boom. Snow in October? Lucky you, I guess We have had nothing but rain for the last two weeks.
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John, no ! The real runner is cast iron set into an oak board. See Post #59 for a photo of an actual runner. I simulated the runner with wood on the model because I couldn't figure out how to craft a metal insert at this scale. My metal working skills are very limited. If I figure it out I will replace the wood runner with a more accurate one. It's just bolted on. On the real boats the cast iron blade is shaped at 45 degrees on each side, the actual surface contact with the ice is extremely thin, like an ice skaters skate blade.
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How was the 2018 Conference?
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New Bedford ? As in New Bedford Massachusetts? Home of the Whaling Museum, and just down the road apiece from Battleship Cove Maritime Museum in Fall River MA ? And just east of Mystic Seaport ? That New Bedford ??? Is that the location for 2019? -
Thanks, Lou. Why wait till this winter? Here's a link to her launch in 2014 on the Hudson River https://youtu.be/dzf-jeKhk4Q . Enjoy the virtual ride!
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Completed the ice yacht last night. Could not find any scale grommets and attempts to make the from KS brass tubing proved to be beyond my skill level, so I opted to use a bolt rope instead of the more modern grommets used on the current real 1:1 ice yacht. Photos of the model are attached below. Sorry for the picture quality, can't get outdoors for better lighting due to the severe wet weather we're having. And yes that is a "little person" sitting in the cockpit with their video camera ready to take a wild ride.
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I hope you are joking. Lee Valley has an incredible collection of miniature planes and chisels that are perfect for model work. -
It's a new sub-forum of Shore Leave, Dave. Lots of interesting non-ship modeling.
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Maketh that a second Mead and a portion of black puddin, kind sir !
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