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Yup,

Very nice indeed!!

Cheers....HOF.

2 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Excellent work   - really  coming together.

 

OC.

Thank Chap,

Appreciated.

I have to remind myself that thi is my first "Ship with Guns.... 🙂"

Lots of firsts for me also, PE etc.

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

Hi Pat,

I quite like the look of the Air-Brush kit.

A plethora of accessories!! (I might just have to save for one.)

Cheers....HOF.

Hi All,

Photos to go with the "Small" update.

I installed the Stern Booms and Stern Anchor Cables. I made up all Booms with a simple jig and painted prior to installation.

(I'm not really 100% happy with the Grab Rails but you can't really see them unless you are really close.) (Maybe I can get things perfect with my Trumpeter Bismarck.... 🙂)

(There are other aspects of this model, (My work), that irk me but far too late to do anything about them.  😐)

It'll be o.k. Not much left to do....

• Rigging
• Boats (Already constructed)
• 10.5cm AA Guns (Already constructed)
• Interference Grids
• Accommodation Ladders?
• Main Deck Railing
• Touch-Ups

Anyway, "Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes!!"

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

Photos:

Hi All,

Tiny update.

Bow Anchor "Cables" re-done for the fourth time!!

My error was not taking the outboard Cables right up to the Anchor Shaft.

Installed the Bow Booms on the Hull and am working on the Stern Anchor Cables at present.

I'll get some pictures up soonish.

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

5 hours ago, VitusBering said:

I recognized the serving thing - not that one specifically, that one looks unique, but like a Sterling engine, it doesn't matter how it is constructed, the function is evident with a bit of inspection. Serving your own lines is impressive - beyond my skill at the moment. I don't think a plastic model is worthy of that kind of effort. When and if I attempt a museum quality wood model I may attempt it.

 

I also think that should that time come I'll probably invest in a 3d printer. But that's a ways down the road. You took over six years working weekends to complete the Cutty Sark (I have studied your build log, btw. Very nicely done) and it may take me at least half that long working regularly to finish this model.

 

This is my first ship model since the '80s. I've built R/C planes both from kits and scratch but even though they're semi-scale, they don't take the level of craftsmanship, expertise, and knowledge a tall ship demands.

 

That's a prime reason I'm here - to learn.

Hi Darryl,

Very kind words, thank you.

Cheers and Regards,

Harry..

2 hours ago, VitusBering said:

That's a great looking model, Harry, and thank you very much for the info. Wow, really nice pic.

Thanks Chap.

The CS took ma 6.5 years of weekend work tro complete and was my third ship model.

(A very steep learning curve. 🙂)

The plastic "Connex" thing in the foreground is my Serving device.

I did a "Truncated" build log on MSW if you are interested.

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

2 hours ago, rvchima said:

Harry,

It's too late now but I use Novacan black patina for stained glass to blacken miscellaneous parts. It just takes seconds, but your bleach idea seems to have worked perfectly. The chains, er... cables, look great!

Rod

 

 

Thanks for looking in Chap!!

Yup, far too late for an alternative Blackening solution. (Needs Must I guess.... 🙂)

I think I'm getting somewhere....

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

Hi Darryl,

An early photo of my Cutty., this is the 1/78 Sergal/Mantua 1/78 version.

The reason I am posting this is the size with reference to the plan on the wall. (As I mentioned, I could not recall what "B" size they were/are. 🙂)

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

Hi John,

Very nice Fittings indeed!!

Cheers....HOF.

5 hours ago, VitusBering said:

Thanks HOF, that's very encouraging. That's the same vendor I got mine from. How large did you make the Campbell plans - wait - the ones from the book or the one(s) from the Royal Museum? The museum ones are pretty big already (758x567 mm or approx. 30x22 in.) so I am assuming the ones from the book. So the question remains in any case, I think)... how big did you make them?

 

I will have to juggle other artwork to make room for the Museum plans if I get both the Rigging and Sail plans.

This brings back memories of scratch building a 1/4 scale de Havilland Chipmunk in Art Scholl livery in my garage. I had full scale plans that took up three of the walls and part of the ceiling. I tried to have them reduced but no one would take the job.

Hi Chap,

The plans that I had enlarged were from the Museum.

I got them enlarged to the largest "B" size. (I think that's a "B2?" Not sure sorry..... )

You should ge6 3 plans, Sail, Rigging and General Arrangement, Sheer/Plan views.

Once enlarged. they were about 1/96 Scale. (And yes, they took up lots of Wall Space!! 🙂)

Cheers....HOF.

30 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

I thnk  I have  about  120 figures  made ,   I have the  case  already  here  it  is   - 

 

OC.

Hi Chap,

That is really good!! (Thank you for the photo.... )

The diorama is going to look awesome!!

(I have been following along for a while, it will be good to see everything come together.)

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

2 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Thank  you  kindly  Harry,   I have  placed a  handful  of figures  shown  in some of my  earlier  pics,   the  dio  base  is  36Inches  by 24inches.

 

OC.

Thats a reasonable size!! 🙂

How many figures total and are you intending a dust cover/case of some description?

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.i

Hi Chap,

Looking really good!!

(I was going to ask when we were going to see the figures in place on the Diorama.)

Can I respectfully ask what are the Diorama dimensions?

Cheer and Regards,

Harry.

Hi Chap,

I got a "First Edition" Longridge set a few years ago from Abe Books.

I did find them very useful.

(Campbells Plans are really good also although I had to get mine enlarged at a local print shop so I could read the detail.)

Cheers....HOF.

9 hours ago, Joe100 said:

You have to be careful with Kagero. If they don’t know the answer to a question, they tend to answer it themselves, with nonsense. Their Kongō drawings are absolutely hilarious. I picked them up last year to help with my build, and boy, they’re rough. They look pretty, but they blend the ship’s fit from 1941 to 1944. 

Yup, they are very nice drawings.... 🙂

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

5 hours ago, Joe100 said:

Excellent, just remember the stern anchor has a short amount of chain where the swivels connect, and the rest is steel cable. This anchor was rarely used and the KM felt a steel cable was sufficient for holding purposes. This meant the anchor itself did a little more work than the average anchor though. It’s not too strange of a setup, but it wasn’t as robust as others. The anchor chain cables do a lot of the heavy holding on a large ship. 
 

The booms you’re referring to are just standard boat mooring booms, they swing out and allow the crew to embark/disembark the ships small boats without having to come along the accommodation ladders. A little simpler to deploy. For your purposes, I’d rig them as stowed. These didn’t weigh much, and I believe they were left in place during Rhine Exercise. With the exception of the smaller boats being removed, most of the boat handling equipment was left in place. Bismarck would likely have been deploying boats often to search lone enemy ships, plant explosives, inspect, all the things one does on a cruiser-warfare cruise. 
 

The small boats weren’t going to be needed, so they were left in Norway. I’m sure after the loss of Bismarck they were redistributed, but it would have been interesting to know where they got off to. 
 

If you’re interested, one of the Verkehrsboot from Tirpitz still lives. I believe it’s in France now, but I can’t remember the details. 

Hi Joe,

The information is just superb thank you!!

It is really good to add correct terminology to my repertoire of "Ship Lore," i.e. "Cable."

Thanks again for advising equipment that was removed prior to operation Rhine..

I don't think that I will delete these smaller craft. (It looks like my Ship will have all the "Bells and Whistles. "🙂)

Again, not 100% historically accurate but I like the look of these bits. (The only ones to know will be you, me and anyone else that reads this information.... 🙂

Yup, I intend to install the Booms "Stowed," much simpler I think....

Of note, my "Super 3D drawings of Bismarck," (Kagero), show the color scheme as of May 27, 1941. This depicts the Ship "Fully Loaded" and Inc. Swasticker markings Fore and Aft. (Artistic License? 🙂)

Anyway, onwards!!

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

1 hour ago, Joe100 said:

Bismarck’s bow anchor was removed in Norway, to save fuel lugging it around. The stern anchor was more tricky to remove so it was left in place. Bismarck’s stern anchor didn’t use a chain cable, (anchor chains are called “cables” btw), it used a braided steel cable. 
 

After Denmark Strait, one of the bow anchors and cable was let go to help level the ship. It’s believed the other was dropped as well, with minimal results. 

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the info, appreciated!!

Well, I have the Bow Anchor and "Cables" installed., probably not 100% historically accurate but I am comfortable with what I've got. 🙂

I have the Stern Cables to install later today.

Edit:

BTW were the Bow/Stern Booms for Boat recovery or something else?

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

20 hours ago, keelhauled said:

Hi Harry!

Happy New Year!  I hope your summer is going well.   Had a great time in Melbourne and Sydney a couple of months back. It was business, but I got a day free on two weekends.  spent it on the water!

best, 

Marc

Hi Marc,

Good to see your "Hale and Hearty."

At least you can mix a little free time with business.

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

1 hour ago, Old Collingwood said:

They  look  Super  -  very tidy.

 

OC.

Thanks OC,

I had another look at the Starboard Main Anchor Chain.

I just could not live with it twithought any tension.

De-bonded Chain at the Spurling pipe, "Tweaked" and re-attached.

Much better, Port and Starboard Chain runs are now clear of the Deck... 

Much improved!! 🙂

Cheers,

Harry.

Hi All,

Another small update:

Completed the Bow Anchor Chains, I used the "Eyelet" method of attaching the small Chains. (A couple of small touch ups required.)

The Main Anchor Chains affixed but I feel that the Starboard side could have had a tad more tension. I don't think I'll push my luck, unless of course, it bugs me too much.... 🙂

I'm reasonably happy with the result, (I have to be, I'm not doing it again!!)

Stern Anchor Chain tomorrow and maybe the Fore and Aft Hull Booms (I made these up some time ago.)

I am looking forward to Rigging the Beastie, sort of.... 🙂

(The new "Specs" are awesome!! I can see again!!)

Cheers....HOF.

Photos:

18 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Thanks for the explanation as I've never heard of using bleach on silver.

 

Liver of sulfur would  be a good way to go... less mess and won't stain the wood.

Thanks Mark,

I think it worked out o.k. 🙂

Cheers....HOF.

5 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

OC, I know some of the products but haven't clue what's available in N.Z.  

 

Harry, that's great you got them blackened.   What did you finally end up using?

Hi Mark,

Yup, I got the Silver Chain blackened with household bleach. (Janola, as it known here.)

I had the chain immersed for about ten hours prior to the installation.

(I quite like blackened Silver; the Black does not come off when handled unlike my experiences with blackened Brass Chain. Maybe in the future I'll substitute Brass Chain for Silver.... 🙂)

Liver of Sulfur is preferred I believe.

As for obtaining this on-line, I don't know, I did not try as I wanted the chain "Yesterday" as it were.... 🙂

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

19 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Place  the  chain then paint  the  damn  thing    Harry  -  its  what  my   attaitude  would  be  -  treat  it  in place  and  do  some  paint  shades  and  washes  over  it   -  Im  sure  it  would  behave  -  just  needs  a  bit  of  time  but atleast  you  would be  able  to  work on it rather  than  waiting  for  stuff  to arrive.

Hey  I can  talk  -  look at  my  figure   painting...

 

OC.

Thanks Chap,

The Chain is already done.... 🙂

Absolutely nothing wrong with your soldiers!!

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.

18 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

I thought  you  could  get  dedicated  products  to  Blacken  metal  products  -  seen  it mentioned  in many  of the  wood  ship builds  in here  (just  dont  know  which  one)  many  have even  Blackened  whole  canons  etc.

 

@mtaylorAny ideas  mate?

 

OC.

Thanks OC.

Yup, there are many products to do the job, couldn't agree more!! 🙂

Sterling Silver Chain was, I thought, a "Pragmatic" approach to the problem that I had at hand.

Friday afternoon, 3pm and I wanted something that I could use as soon as practicable.

If I was to order a specific Blackner it would be a few days before I received anything, not to mention cost, shipping etc.

I thought Household Bleach would be good to try, if it hadn't worked, I would have been forced down the "Commercial" path.

The other thing that I considered "How often would I use?"

(I did like the idea of squashed boiled eggs.... 🙂)

Cheers and Regards,

Harry.