DaveRow

A Single 7mm block added to the top of the Fore Mast for the Main Top Mast Stay(will be using 0.64mm rope) to run through.

The stay runs down the mast, fixed via a tackle to an eye on the Starboard side(H1-10 AoTS) of the mast step.

For the collar I used 0.45mm rope, seized leaving a gap to go around the block, the seized ends to form the end loops. 

The block ready to be fixed to the fore mast top:

And the block lashed in place:

The block/collar may be a bit too high up for the Main and Fore stays to be perfectly in alignment. ?

Dave R

16 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Dave,

What a great idea, charting the rigging before doing. You wouldn't have charts for the lower and middle masts would you? I know they would be useful to the endeavor group.

 

As an advanced novice or low intermediate builder, I would love to know how you keep your work so neat, clean, and sharp. I fear I am getting the reputation as a building slob.

 

Regards

 

 

Hi Michael,

Below is a sketch of the 3 lower Masts, shroud rope sizes I used.

Haven't done the Fore or Main TopGallant Masts yet.

Sketching up these diagrams is just the start of understanding how the rigging all goes and works together.

The shrouds and stays are the easier ones to follow, the more I get into it, wow it gets interesting.

Cheers

Dave R

4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Dave, that is a great idea and I did something similar but also used the Rigging Spreadsheet Danny and John developed.  It was very useful in that it generates the sizes of the ropes in the actual ship rig and also the scale size in metric or imperial.  I then rounded these and reduced the resulting list to about 6 sizes all up to allow me to make up rope of the appropriate sizes.  Your method appears to be paying dividends as the scales and their relative ratios look right to the eye.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Hi Pat,

I had a look at the same Rigging Spreadsheet of Danny and John you mentioned.

It is great, produces the rope sizes, however I may be wrong, not the blocks ? am I correct ?

I did something similar(using David Steel's) which produces rope sizes, and also the block types and sizes.

When I first looked about what seems like years ago, I wanted to find out how many block types & sizes I'd need, I could not find a source at that time.

The spreadsheet converts the imperial to metric at an entered scale and is based on the "Ships 20 to 22 guns.... closest tons to Endeavour. 

I've added a AoTS Ref to the left side for what I used.

The spreadsheet also works out the totals for:

- lengths of rope sizes for the standing and running rigs and

- type and sizes for blocks

Samples below > first Main-Mast page, (1 of 24 pages of data)

And produces a Summary of Blocks:

Note: Of interest, the number of blocks the spreadsheet indicates(681) is pretty close to a number mentioned in an article "Rerigging Endeavour Part 2"  by:

Anthony Longhurst, ANMM leading-hand rigger and shipwright on the Replica,  mentions "Add to this the oiling and upkeep of nearly 700 blocks"

And a Summary of Ropes to order:  based on Chucks packages (each 20'), I hope I don't get into strife showing a suppliers price/name. Just what I used to work out what to order and how much.

Disclaimer:  Above may not be accurate and is purely what I have used for my Endeavour. Use at your own risk.

Enough, back to the real work....
 

Dave R

13 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Dave,

What a great idea, charting the rigging before doing. You wouldn't have charts for the lower and middle masts would you? I know they would be useful to the endeavor group.

 

As an advanced novice or low intermediate builder, I would love to know how you keep your work so neat, clean, and sharp. I fear I am getting the reputation as a building slob.

 

Regards

 

 

I have the charts/sketches for the 3 lower masts. I'll get them from my log book and post.

I keep a log book, details on how to make items, sketches, sizes and calculations etc.

As for working neat and tidy. ?

I just try to make neat cuts, go slow and steady and if not up to scratch, I redo things.

I plan ahead and quiet often, I make something as a trial run to see how it goes, make changes if not 99%, even work out a number of processes(even making jigs) to mass produce the same item a number of times.

I am sure many others do the same things above.

I mostly use a magnifying glass with Leds for all the small items.

All takes time, hence many hours of work sometimes produces very little in the end.

Dave R

Hi All,

Thanks for your comments Michael, Pat and Greg and others for looking in.

I thought I share something I am sure most if not all of us model makers do.

Planning ahead, don't we ?

I am getting ready for the upper mast Standing Rigging.

Killing some time as I have more ropes from Chuck to arrive soon.

I've marked up on a copy of the AoTS Standing Rigging page(for 1:60), with as many as possible rope and block sizes for easy reference.

At times I sketch up a specific task ahead of the sizes.

Below is a sketch and tables for the TopMast ropes and block sizes.

Cheers

Dave R

Awesome paint job Greg.

or should we say artistry.

Dave R

I had a look at the Endeavour Fore and Main Mast Jeers single blocks. Each has 3 single blocks. The AoTS p103 indicates doubles on the yard and mast.

The Endeavour Mizzen just 1 single on the yard, stropped around the mast. And the AoTS p105 indicates similar. But how it was raised ? does not indicate.

Therefore I am using the following:

Added in the Jeer Blocks to raise the Yards up to each of the 3 Masts.

Fore Mast:  7mm double blocks either side, with lashing to the mast and the block double stropped.

The Yard will have 2 single 7mm.

Maine Mast(same as Fore):  7mm double blocks either side, with lashing to the mast and the block double stropped.

The Yard will have 2 single 7mm.

The Mizzen Mast:  For this block I deviated from the AoTS and Endeavour, to have blocks either side, so the mizzen yard can be raised by these.

Note: The mizzen topmast topsail yard has single blocks either side of the mast and a double on the yard. Page 104 AoTS.

I used a 6mm single block either side. The Yard to have 1 x double 6mm.

Might have a look at the crowsfeet and Main Stay Tackle next/soon ?

Dave R

Me and the fella sin the yard have managed to add the StaySail Stay to the Mizzen Mast.

First we made a few more mouse blanks to weave for the stay and for TopGallant Stays a little down the track.

The Stay fixed to the foot of the Main Mast.

Next the Jeer Blocks.

Dave Row

On 6/15/2017 at 7:49 AM, Greg the peg leg sailor said:

G'day Dave 

This model is bloody marvelous mate. Your eye for detail is outstanding, and did you say years ago that this is you FIRST model? Unbelievable!

Are you going to add crow feet to the masks? They week there on the HMS ENDEAVOUR  but not on the HMB endeavor. This factor is going to be addressed, I believe, to make the replica more realistic. 

Havagooday mate 

Greg 

Greg,

It is my first wooden Boat Model to this detail.

However as a young fella, made plenty of plastic models(dozens of them).

Been about boats and yachts most of my life, so maybe it is in my blood.

Crows Foot, rattlings all to come.

I want to make sure I've got all the blocks etc. under the tops before I go adding the crows on.

Dave R

11 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Very nice work Dave,the efforts paid off as they look very good.  Did you try putting bits of white card behind the shrouds?  i found that help me focus on the area of work a little better as the black on black against shadows certainly does do your eyes (and the brain) in.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Came up not too bad. Rushed the Mizzen and close up bit rough.

No white card for the Futtock Shrouds.

Plan to do it for the ratling ropes though.

Looking at the Jeer Blocks next. Should get all the blocks I know off onto the lower mast first before going up.

Dave R

Looking very authentic.

You do justice to the varied colors to make things look real.

Dave R

Finished off the Futtock Shrouds to the top of the Fore and Mizzen Masts.

Fore Mast

I start by attaching the Futtock Stave either side to the mast shrouds.

I used 0.5mm black rope and seized with cotton this time(used brass rod for the main mast stave)

Then add in the Catharpins, attached to the middle 4 mast shrouds under the stave.

This leaves room for the Futtock shroud to loop under the stave, over the Catharpin, around the Futtock and back over the stave and down onto the main shroud.

Can get fairly busy with the trying cords. 

Making the ForeMast Futtock Shrouds.

Attached to the Fore Mast.

Mizzen Mast

Mizzen the same but 3 shrouds per side, attached to the 3 rear mast shrouds.

And we now have the tops and Futtock Shrouds on each mast.

I'm glad the Futtock's are out of the way.

Doing my eyes in.

I suppose it is onto the Ratings next ? or maybe not until I raise the runners ?

Dave R

1 hour ago, RGL said:

Well done, that was a horrible part of my build. 

I agree, and I have only done 1 set.

Dave R

Finished off the Futtock Shrouds to the top of the Main Mast today.

Futtock Stave and Catharpins

2 Futtock Stave(I wound thread around brass bar for mine)

4 Catharpins from 0.5mm rope wound with black tread

Below shows the Catharpins tied between the shrouds, the Futtock Stave tied to the stays.

Starboard view of the Main Mast top.

Top end of the Futtock Shrouds. I made small brass hooks from 0.5mm bar, shaped and welded a loop in one end. 

The lower end of the Futtock Shrouds. Looped around the Stave and Stay then tied below to the Stays.

Up and under.

More to go...

Dave R

16 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Looking good Dave, and progress is a bit (much) faster than for mine

 

cheers

 

Pat

 I've got the promise of rum and wild women for the apprentices at the shipyard if they get a move along.

Been adding tension to the shrouds, port/starboard to align the mast tops, and adjusting the stays fore/aft to set the mast rakes.

Nothing broken yet, the lads doing a fine job. The rum awaits.....

I believe I am looking forward to the fine work required for the Futtock Stave and Shrouds, the Catharpins and Rattlings.  

I tell myself this anyhow.

Maybe I need the rum. ?

Dave R

3 hours ago, shipaholic said:

Hi Dave 

looking good mate, that longer bowsprit looks right eh?

cheers

Steve

Yes Steve.

The longer bowsprit will come together nicely with the Main Topmast.

With all going to plan, straight stay lines.

Dave R

Another good start their Greg.

A lot of scratch work which your so good at.

Dave R

Been slow going, checking and preparing ropes sizes and making the ends.

Mizzen Shrouds:

Shrouds made and hoisted at-top the mizzen mast.

All just clear the top rail either side, just how they should be.

Mizzen Stay:

Made the Mouse on the serving machine(with mouse jig) and looped for the top of the stay.

Hoisted the stay in place.

3 years and 1 month after starting the build:

An side on view of the 3 Lower Masts hoisted with Shrouds and Stays on.

I believe I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel ahead.

Dave R

Looking good Rowand.

Dave R

Good Job 

Glad you got some paying work.

Lessons learn't on planking of 1st layer will come in handy for 2nd.

Great effort.

Dave R

On 5/3/2017 at 3:02 PM, rowand said:

Hello Everyone,

It's been a while since my last and I've been 'tinkering' with the model so my next post will have some pictures to go with it.  I haven't made great progress but it's progress never-the-less.  I shall report in with the pictures and in the mean time I hope all is well with your modelling projects.

 

Cheers,

Rowan D.

Hello Rowan,

Look forward to your pics and where you are up to.

Dave R

Thanks for you all Greg, Steve, Mike and Pat for looking in on my log. You guys all provide inspiration.

More making Stay's Mouse

Second weaved mouse for the Main Mast Preventer Stay.

Getting the hang of the weaving.

Pat,

Odd numbers are good. Still a bugger to weave through them though.

Might try a light/dark longitudinal's for next one. 

Dave R

On 5/3/2017 at 8:32 PM, shipaholic said:

Good job Dave but a lot of work, did you see my post on using fabric band-aid material for the meeces?

Hi Chris,

I tried the fabric band-aid's.

I just couldn't get it to work out neat enough.

Probably was ok, but the weaving method is coming along fine now, comes up better.

Thanks

Dave R