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Whaleboat Foot Rests
Just like in the gig, the foot rest were made in the same manner from 1/64” stock material. This time, the two position brackets were paint grey. I left the foot rest itself bare because I thought that paint would not last very long under the wear and tear of rower’s feet and they probably were replaced as needed. It also offers a little contrast.
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Whaleboats
Just wanted to say that this week (Aug 21, 2017) has been interesting. I got to see the eclipse as I was right smack dab in the middle of the totality just west of Columbia SC, about an hour from my home (using back roads to avoid highway traffic). It truly was a spectacular sight. My friends and I could not have asked for a better day.
However, the next afternoon, I discovered that someone had rammed into my mailbox with a vehicle and smashed it into three pieces and damaged the one next to me sometime earlier in the day. I spent Wednesday removing what was left of the old mailbox post, and putting in a new one. If it’s not one thing, it’s another in the life of a home owner.
When we last saw the two whaleboats, I had left them as a simple hull with simulated ribs painted with white primer. Per the Hunt practicum, he gave the builder a choice of priming the hull and ribs and then adding the flooring, or adding the flooring and then painting a more difficult structure. Since I had already primed the hull and ribs earlier, the flooring was added and then a coat of white primer was then applied to it. Ideally one would want to glue the bare wood pieces to a bare wood surface and not a painted one. On the other hand, a coat of gray had to be applied to the inside of the hull as well and I would still have to paint the hull and ribs again. Eventually all was glued and painted. The plans called for the use of 1/32” x 1/64” risings but due to the fragility of the stock and the low probability anyone would notice, 1/32” square painted white strip of basswood was used and positioned at the border of the white and gray paint inside the hull. The rising will eventually support the thwarts.
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OK, now you are really showing off 8-). I would have never thought of using blackboard chalk as a carving material. Fantastic job. Too bad your viewers will be leaving their nose prints on the display case (you are making a display case, aren't you?) as they try to see the intricate detail of the carving. Your skills never cease to amaze me. Wow!
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As I mentioned above (Aug 18, 2017 post), I used the same exact Armanti figures for my model. I got mine at Age of Sail.
Jon
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You might want to use 5 minute epoxy glue on those joints. They will fill in any gaps, you have the luxury of a little time to set the pieces once the glue is in place, you can file/sand off any excess, and you can paint it. The main point though, due to the small gluing surfaces, I believe the epoxy will be a whole lot stronger. I used this method for the mast top stanchions on my Rattlesnake. (June 9. 2014 post).
BTY, what kind of drill did you use to form the holes in the metal? All I have are wood drills which either bend or break if you breath on them too hard.
Jon
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I used those exact same figures for my Rattlesnake (post Feb 11, 2017). After I trimmed off the casting seams I dipped them in the same acid bath I used for blackening metal pieces to get rid of any oils left on the metal. To my surprised, the metal turned black as if I had blackened them. Just thought you might want to aware of that.
Jon
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Nice solution.
When I use pins, I install the pin into item that needs to be glued to the deck. Then I position the item to its intended location and press the item so that the pin makes an impression on the deck. Then I drill a pin hole into the impression. Now the pin fits into the deck and the item is properly located. It doesn't matter that the pins don't necessarily line up with each other (because they are hidden), but that the resulting pieces are located in their respective positions.
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As always neat, clean, well photographed, and a pleasure to view and read.
Jon
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May I suggest you add metal pins to the underside of anything you're going to mount to the deck that will handle rigging line. The rigging line adds a lot of tension to bits and stanchions and may pull them off the deck. Trying to repair that kind of catastrophe is something I would want to wish on any model builder.
Jon
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Gig Bumper
The major element of the gig was the bumper. This was made from 1/32” square boxwood which was pre-bent by soaking in water and then using a hot iron wood bender. It makes gluing so much easier.
Gig Completed
The pintle and gudgeon were made of ordinary white paper wrapped the rudder and rudder post. According to the photographs on the actual ship they are white so I did not use a contrasting color to make them stand out. It’s part of my philosophy that less is more. Finally, I used ordinary beige sewing thread for the yoke tiller ropes.
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Gig Thole Pins
The US Navy’s plans provide excruciating detail of the thole pins; way too much detail for this level of scale. The pins are not cylinder shaped but slightly conical; do not have a circular cross section, more oblong; come to a flattened rounded point at the top; and the pairs aren’t even the same shape. So like many of the other builders who decided to include thole pins, I chose to make mine circular cross section with a flattened pointed top. Using a Byrnes draw plate, I drew down bamboo skewers close to 7/128” in diameter. The thole plate was supposed to be 1/128” thick but I didn’t dare get any thinner than 1/64”.
My idea was to make the plates, drill the two thole pin holes, add the pins and use CA glue. Once the CA dried solid, I would trim the pins and sand the bottom of the plate and again using CA glue into position. Drilling two holes in the plate for the pins was next to impossible because as soon as the drill bit started to turn, the wood would split.
I then used Plan B. I stained the plate first hoping the stain would act a bit like glue in the grain of the wood. Then I glued the plate into position on the rail to provide additional structural strength. Then I drilled the hole for the pins. Even then, I had one plate split.
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You might want to take a look at Tlevine's build of the HMS Atalant (March 23, 2014 post) for the hammocks and see if that will help.
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The rudder was painted white. It look almost all brown in the image but that was just the shadow of the camera lens. The yoke tiller and the standard yoke are unpainted oak on the actual boat so these were given a light stain. The standard tiller looks awfully short to my eyes, but it matches perfectly with the kit’s plans. These pictures show the dry fit. They will be permanently assembled as a last step.
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Gig Rudder Assembly
Using the US Navy plans to make the templates for the rudder parts. I used 1/32” boxwood here because the rudder has some sharp curves and I wanted clean edges. Basswood can be a bit fuzzy. Both the kit plans and the US Navy plans show a yoke tiller.
The US Navy plans show a hole for a standard tiller (but no plan of it) which I assumed was to give the occupants of the boat a choice of steering methods.
The kit shows the tiller installed along with the yoke tiller. I would assume you would have one or the other, not both. But I’m not a sailor, I don’t know. I’ve looked at other builder’s models and of those that went to the trouble of making a yoke tiller, also had the standard tiller installed as well. So, unless someone can definitively state use one or the other, I’ll install both.
The first picture below shows the parts of the rudder and the yoke tiller. The second image show the rudder partial assembled and a bent 1/32” stock to be used for the standard tiller.
The rudder ended up being about 3/128” thick after sanding which is what the US Navy plans call for at scale. This required that I use very small diameter pins to secure the rudder to the stern. I used broken #80 drill bits. They are very thin, stiff, strong, and dark in color which will make them all but invisible. As I have mentioned before, I don’t throw away scraps. The broken bits are a case in point.
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I'm not surprised you couldn't find an image. Usual when I look for one item I find another, total unrelated. I copy it and add it to my extensive library. Just for grins and giggles, I tried to find that image again with Google using keywords and similar images, no luck.
My guess for its use is to hold the chain from playing out once the anchor is dropped, not to hold up. If you look closely, you can see that the screw does not press on the chain. It presses on the wood yoke which in this picture opened.
Glad I could help
Jon
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Oooh! I like that. But as always, I have questions: drill bits #80 - 61. If I wanted to follow your example for making the stars, I would need metal cutting drill bits. If I were to order drill bills from Model Expo for example, I would assume the bits would be designed for wood. How are metal cutting drill bits designated? Other being tougher, are they designed differently? Where do you buy them?
Thanks
Jon
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Gig Rail Cap
On the full-scale US Navy drawing, the rail cap is ½”. At scale, that works out to be 0.0065” abou the thickness of s piece of copy paper. As it so happens, like many of you model builders, we don’t throw anything away. What is scrap to one person is perfection to another. While cutting a piece of stock to size with Byrnes saw, I sliced off a strip of paper thin wood. It was perfect for the rail cap.
First the strip was stained. Then two pieces where used to cover the rail using PVC glue. Once set, the excess was trimmed off with an X-actor knife and file. Finally, 4 cleats were made as before for the pinnace, and installed.
The was one small caveat, the stern grating has vanished into the land of lost socks. I had picked up the gig and forgetting that the grating was on the boat, turned it over and felt something hit my bare foot. At least I think it did. I did everything but rip the rug off the floor. No luck. So, for now, it’s gone and maybe it will make miraculous appearance before I need it again.
Otherwise I’ll have to make it again.
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Whaleboat Thwarts
I decided to install the thwarts next. Because the thwarts are not painted, I used 3/32” x 1/64” boxwood. These were cut to fit and rested on the riser installed earlier.
The thwart stanchions are 1/32” in diameter and were made from bamboo pulled through a drawplate just like the gig.
The thwarts also have knees which attach to the top of the seats. These were made from 1/8” x 1/64” boxwood. The knees were first carved on the wood stock then cut off using the razor saw and miter. The miter was used more for creating consistent lengths than squareness of cut because I had to file off an additional fraction of wood so that the legs of “L” shape was a bit more than 90 degrees to conform to the shape of the hull. These were then glued into position.