JSGerson

 

 

Q: is the billboard painted or would it just have been left natural ? if painted what color and would it be. Black or ocher, or  matching the paint stripes. It seems to stand out on its own so I don't think it would have matched the striping.

I took a look at my collection of 34 different model Rattlesnake's build pictures that  I have assembled over the past four years of my build. Of the completed models that were painted and that had bill boards, some were black in color and others natural wood. Just remember that the purpose of the bill board is to take the abuse of the anchor so it doesn't mess up the hull. I would imagine a lot of pieces have to be replaced over time as the wood wore down and keeping it painted would be a pain. So I guess the choice is yours - make it look good or make it more realistic.

 

 

Not sure what the anchor board thing is called but is it made of multiple planks or was it one solid chunk of wood ? 

The anchor board thing is called a billboard because the flukes on the anchor are called bills. The board provided added strength for wear and tear as the anchor is hauled aboard the ship. You can see how I handled it here:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2293-rattlesnake-by-jsgerson-building-robert-hunt%E2%80%99s-kitbashed-mamoli-american-privateer-a-164-scale-pob-model/page-27

The deck planking on my model was done per the plans: A false deck made of a single piece of thin wood that came with the kit was installed after the bulkheads were glued to keel.This was the foundation for the deck planking. Where I kit bashed the cabin floor with a checkerboard (per Robert Hunt's Practicum} there is an additional layer to support the the checkerboard. The combined thickness of the support and the checkerboard pieces equals the thickness of the deck planks so there is no difference in height. To ensure that the gun ports were of proper height from the deck planking, I created a heavy stock card cannon. If the cardboard cannon could slide easily through the gunport, it was OK. Other decks (quarterdeck and forecastle) were planked directly onto the ships beams.

As for other methods, I can only assume that any change from a kit's plans must be compensated for any change in overall dimensions. This is my first model of this type so I am a bit limited in experience. I don't know if I have answered your question but maybe some other readers of this log can jump in with their ideas.

I too have Byrnes draw plate and it is worth the money. Someone once said they don't like models that have the Measles. If you look a actual ships the treenails are subdued almost to the point of disappearing on some decks. For that reason I did nothing to enhance the treenail contrast. I used bamboo skewers I bought at the grocery store, split them down, and then used the draw plate. They were "glued" in place with Poly-wipe, the same treatment I applied to the whole deck and hull planks. Because the grain of the treenails are perpendicular to the surface, it draws in the Poly-wipe and darkens them just enough so you can see them, but not enough to overwhelm the senses. It's a matter of taste of the builder. Just my 2 cents.

I collected Pasi's build log as he was creating it and copied it to a Word file for my own use. It's not the complete log as I have deleted what I felt were non essential comments from other followers or I have deleted their screen names if I kept their comments. Because it's edited and technically it's Pasi log. I don't know if I have the right to distribute it. If you can get Pasi's or the Moderator's permission,  I would gladly send it to you.

Moderator, can I distribute another member's build log without his permission?

Scott - This week finds me visiting my spry 95 year old Mom in Florida, so no work on the model till I return.

According to the Practicum, there are just a few more items to add to the deck ( sheave structures, cleats, spare masts, etc.) then the last major piece, the ship's boat, which is a little model unto itself. At that point I will have completed all nine chapters of the Practicum for creating the hull. Then the real fun begins - starting the Practicum for the masts, yards, and rigging!

I've got to believe what I read somewhere that Bob took a lot of short cuts near the end of the hull building in his Practicum. He stated somewhere earlier that he was building four models and writing their Practicums at once and had deadlines to meet. That would explain why he never finished his model hull or rigged it. At least he provided detailed interpretations of the rigging plans so we could finish.

Still, all things considered, if I had to start over, I'd still buy his Practicum. There is a wealth of experience and knowledge there.

The blocks were first glued into position on the outer hull. Only one hole had to be drilled through the hull to the inside wall where the line passes through. The other hole in the block is just for show. For the inside sheave block, glue was applied to the block, a pin was place in one of the sheave block holes and then the pin with the block was stuck into the hole in the bulwarks. The sheave block was then slid off the pin and orientated on the bulwark and the pin removed. A final coat of Poly Wipe on the block and it’s done. It sounds way more complicated than it really was.

Hull Sheaves

At first this looked like a straight forward simple install. A piece of 1/32” x 3/16” x 3/32” boxwood is to be glued to the outside of the hull and a hole drilled through until it passes through the bulwarks on the inside of the hull. Somehow this didn't look right. First, a sheave is a rope pulley built into the hull wall. That means it actually has two holes, one at the top of the pulley wheel and the other at the bottom. Second from what I could find, these were built flush with the hull; they didn't stick out of the hull.

In order to install the sheave in the hull I would have to make a finely cut rectangular hole in the hull and fill it with a double-holed sheave block that could accept a “rope” to pass through it. This would require very high tolerances and I don’t have those skills. The sheaves should have been constructed before the hull was planked. I just didn't know then. Remember this is my first boat of this style. Why the Practicum didn't address this then, I don’t know.

Therefore a compromise was required. Instead of a simple block of wood with a hole in it as depicted in the Practicum, I elected to make the block with a double hole and a shallow trough between them to give the impression of a pulley wheel inside.

The practicum would have the builder make six of these blocks, for three sheaves on each side of the outside hull. There are in fact four sheaves. The fourth one is just under the aft deadeye channel of the foremast. This required that 16 (not 8 or 6) sheave blocks be constructed – 4 per side, outside the hull (8) and 4 per side, inside the hull (8) for a total of 16. This was accomplished by cutting 16, 3/16” long pieces of 1/32” x 3/32” boxwood. Two holes were drilled and a groove chiseled between the holes. Because I didn't want the blocks sticking out, the backsides of the blocks were sanded down as much as I dared to reduce the thickness and the edges tapered so that there were no sharp edges other than the rectangular shape. Without sharp edges hard shadows are hopefully reduced. The idea was to fool the eye into thinking the blocks were flush when they were installed.

Scott, I too was new to building POB models and the Rattlesnake was/is my first build (four years an still counting). In my case I am using the Mamoli kit following Bob Hunt's Practicum, and using a wood supplement package (all the gory details on my log).

Don't be intimidated. If you break it down into small steps, progress will be made. I watch a multitude of logs and gleam every last detail to help with my build. Although I was intimidated by the quality of other builder's skills, I was encouraged to start my own log so others could learn from my mistakes and triumphs. Because of the log, it kind of gives you the incentive to keep going because others are watching you. That, and all the tips and suggestions you get from your followers.

I hope to see your log soon, yes?

Thanks again

Thanks for the tip. How do you keep the rope together when you remove it from the jig? Is the "rope" coated, say with diluted white glue?

I just caught you build today, beautifully done. I just caught some constructive criticism on my build of the Rattlesnake - my rope coils were/are sloppy [my term]. I really didn't pay too much attention to them. So my question to you is how did you achieve such nice results? 

Igor (bdr449) -  I did try to make perfect coils like you did without much success. So instead of going crazy, I assumed (probably wrong) that the "pretty" coils were used when the ship anchored, but during an actual sail, trying to keep the ropes that neat was a wasted effort. At least that was my excuse.

How did you do your coils?

For the grating, I think you have two choices:

1. Make them yourself, but you will need a micro saw like Byrnes or Peac
2. Purchase them from a third party vendor

If you have the saw, I'd give it a try but they are tricky. Every cut must be exact or it won't work. If you do it right, you can make a much finer grid than what comes with the kit and it will look nicer. If that fails then you can always buy.

Here is the model at this stage

After the anchor rope passes through the deck rings it is fed into the main hatch. The Practicum instructed the builder to drill a hole through the grating with a 1/16” drill. The Mamoli plans show a square opening. Hahn’s plans are silent and his model is constructed in such a way that there are no gratings. The MS plan is ambiguous. The rope resolved the quandary. As soon as the rope is cut, it begins to unravel. Trying to keep it under 1/16” was impossible so I increased the hatch opening by cutting and making four grating opens into one. Now the rope had plenty of room to move during dropping and weighing anchor.

The Practicum does not address securing the anchor blade to the model although both the Mamoli and the MS plan show it. Mr. Hunt’s model does not appear to have this tie off. Both plans show an eyebolt in the deck from which a rope is looped around the anchor and tied off on the railing post. My model didn’t have the deck constructed where the eyebolt needed to be. Therefore a plank had to be added for the eyebolt complete with treenails.

There is a size restriction to the photos you can post. Maybe that is your problem. Check out this page on the site. It explains how to post pictures:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/540-how-to-add-pictures-in-your-posts-and-pms/

Welcome bdr449. So glad that you like my blog. I hope that my successes and failures help you in your build.

Looking at the anchor rope again I realized I made a couple of errors:

• I  looped the rope incorrectly

• I discovered that I had installed the bitt backwards

Per the Practicum, the anchor rope is simply looped over the outside of the bitt once. Per the Mamoli plan (the picture below), the rope starts under the inside of the bitt, comes up goes around the post and under the outside of the bitt. The MS plan is the same as the Mamoli except at the end it goes over the outside of the bitt. I chose Mamoli's method. It just seemed more secure. Is it right? I have no idea.

The bitt was removed and reinstalled correctly. It wasn't until the rope rigging was questioned did I notice the incorrect installation.

Here is what it presently looks like. Mind you, the anchor nor the anchor ropes are rigged in their final secured positions.

These were then strung onto the anchor rope and inserted into the deck. Once everything is in its place, the final details will be done.

The rope ring and the deck eyelet were then attached to the metal ring and the eyelet was trimmed so it could fit into the predrilled hole in the deck. 

Once dried, the ends were trimmed off and I had my rope rings.

Per the Practicum the anchor passes through three rings imbedded in the deck. Both the Mamoli and the MS plans show the rope passes through a rope ring which is attached to another ring which in turn is attached to the deck ring. The Hahn plans are silent on this. To create the rope ring, which I assume in real life is a rope with its two ends spliced together, I tied a simple knot on a bamboo skewer (the same ones I used to make my tree nails) and put a small dab of CA glue where the lines overlap. The skewer just happened to be the same diameter as the rings I wanted to make.