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Hi Lin, Nice progress you are making. If you are struggling with carving Then the route previously mentioned by David (aka Shipyard Sid) of using Sculpey isn’t a bad one, I went down that route and the result is below, just a bit of painting to go and it will do. It’s also fairly inexpensive and easy to work. Gary
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Hi Mark, The positioning of the Wales on the Victory at present follow her 1765 plans and were installed in her 1920’s restoration, she has been re-planked many times over the years, including the Wales, and none of her ‘skin’ is original except possibly for a few Hook and Butt strakes below the main Wale. There is evidence that during her refit prior to Trafalgar that the Wales may have been lowered by circa 2’. The plans for the Boyne held by the National Maritime Museum were based on Victory’s pre Trafalgar refit, and these show the lower Wales. So it would not necessarily be incorrect to go with the lower Wales. I’ve included an abstract of the Boyne below where the lower edge of the Wales is clearly denoted by the thick line, you can see a lighter line parallel to this one denoting the upper edge of the Wales running parallel, best seen if you look at the rearmost lower port where you can clearly see the Wale transects the port at its bottom edge as opposed to more towards the top as per victory’s current configuration. Gary
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Urban myth is they once had ‘broon’ dedicated dependency ward at the local hospital for those caught by its heady aroma once too often! Gary
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I have their Treenail maker, it’s a lot faster than using draw plates
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Anatomy of the Ship series book - AoS
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Hi Chris, That is welcome news, I probably spend more on fittings than on kits (second only to my spend on books), there is I believe an outlet for after market fittings. It would be nice to see a UK/European high quality outlet. I’m willing to spend on quality and like Chuck’s fittings but as he often points out himself the cost of international shipping can be prohibitive so I welcome a complimentary service (not that I’d be giving upon Syren, high quality competition can only be a good thing). Gary
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This shot was probably taken when trying to break out of the ice, it looks like water in the foreground and they worked ahead and behind the ship to break ice and clear room to take a run in an attempt to break through. As you can see the sails are full so they are probably trying to apply pressure to the stem to break through to the water ahead. Scott used this process as did Shackleton a decade later (he learned from Scott) to try and reach open water. Gary
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Hi Sanders, Nice to to see another NE member on the forum. Have a good root around here and you’ll find all you need, and as you will know from your browsing if you can’t find it just ask there is a wealth of talent here and people are only too willing to share it. Gary
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Dafi, If you wanted to pin it down there are The National Archives, under ADM 160 (and sub-divisions) Ordnance Office, but it would be a hell of a search through the letters sections unfortunately, there seems to be no single returns book as there was from 1803 onwards. Chances are that most of the guns stayed with her from refit to refit as they were set aside when taken out, so the 32 Pounders are probably the same ones from 1788 onwards through to Trafalgar and beyond. They were all made by Walker & Co.. The reference I mentioned earlier I would look for was from ARMING THE ROYAL NAVY, 1793-1815: THE OFFICE OF ORDNANCE AND THE STATE by Gareth Cole, he states “Victory herself appears to have been armed with old pattern cannon” and then provides the reference “An Account of Iron Ordnance on Board of His Majesty's Ship Victory, Chatham. 28th April 1803', TNA ADM 160/ 154. Although, it is not known if these were replaced in the summer of 1805 while she was at Portsmouth”. We know from the 1803 and 1807 returns (the ones I sent you) that they were the same throughout, so we know they were iron, and probably date to at least 1788. If these were the old pattern guns, probably Armstrong, they may have stayed until the refit in the 1810’s. A comparison with Armstrong / Bloomfield pattern guns and those on the deck lower deck of the Victory would tell you which ones they actually were if you want to go that deep into it. Gary
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Also, and I have to re-find the reference, he mentions that prior to the 1800 refit the 32 Pounders were of the old type, by which I presume he means the pattern that preceded the Blomfeld, in which case there would be a noticeable difference on your dummy barrels muzzle swell. He also thinks they may have been on at Trafalgar but we know this is not the case as we can trace them to 1803 and some remain on board. Gary
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Hi Dafi, Concerning bronze cannon Bugler at page 21 says “It is also interesting to note that by 1790 all brass ordnance had been succeeded by cast iron throughout the Navy and it is very likely that the last remaining brass ordnance in the Victory was discarded during this repair (1788)”. Not definitive but opens the possibility of brass cannon up to this point. Gary
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Jeff is right, that’s what I did. You will then get a follow-up email. Gary -
A 3D laser scan of the Victory has been done, visit the official HMS Victory website and look under the Restoration section. There is also this BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-22789106 Gary
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Reckon I’ll take the plunge, this will use the full range of Chuck’s bulkheads and fittings, but as I have some hefty English Boxwood logs and a large quantity of Pear I’ll mill my own lumber, I also have some Ebony I’ll throw in as well. I’ve taken Advantage of the NRG 2 years renewal offer as well, so I’m signed up for a while now, perhaps even longer enough to build the base board 😁 Gary
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Chris, Come me at it from another direction to corroborate the 7 window theory in the absence of direct evidence. Anson was ‘cut-down’ at the same time, as was Magnanime and Indie. As a 64 Anson had 8 lower windows, but paintings show 7 - see below left hand ship (capture of Pomona of Havana by Thomas Whitcombe). The rationale would have been to have a razee look like a frigate, and 8 windows were a give-away that it was a razee which would be avoided, you wanted the enemy to see a lesser ship of force. Other instances would assist in the provenance of the 7 window proposition. Gary
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