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14 minutes ago, Smile-n-Nod said:
In the phrase "USS Cairo HSR", what does "HSR" mean?.
(Side note: when I searched for "HSR" on this site, I got 0 hits, even though "HSR" is used in this thread.)
Brett,
Thanks for stopping by. Good to see another fellow Texan on here.
HSR stands for the Historic Structure Report. This is a document that the National Park Service made available on their website. It contains detailed information on the salvage and reconstruction of the Cairo, her permanent berth structure, and numerous detailed drawings of what she looked like after she was rebuilt. These drawings are what I am mostly basing this build off of. If you wan to take a look at them, the PDF can be downloaded from the NPS website: https://www.nps.gov/archeology/sites/subcul1.htm just scroll down to Mississippi and select the USS Cairo Historic Structure Report.
-Brian
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George, you’re a braver man than me. I always put the planking down then come back with the coamings because I don’t think I could ever get the planks to line up correctly if I didn’t. I’d have gaps all over the place. However it is a better method if you are painting them. It gives a cleaner look without the worry of getting (and cleaning) paint from the deck.
Can’t wait to see what they look like installed.
-Brian
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On 4/23/2021 at 5:37 PM, Cathead said:
Whaddaya mean, "you hope you'll have more next time"? That's a huge dump of fantastic work.
On 4/24/2021 at 10:43 AM, Canute said:Don't stint yourself. You've got a great build going here. Keep on truckin'.
Eric/Ken, I guess it was a poor choice of words. Just to me all the “fiddly bits” of this build don’t substantiate to much until they are actually placed on the boat. But I guess if I look back on it I was a little productive since my last update. I have a whole shelf with the cannon carriages, ammo crates, cannon implements and various other odds-n-ends just waiting to be installed, just getting a bit anxious to see them in place I suppose.-Brian
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2 hours ago, FriedClams said:
Nice update Brian. Extremely clean and well executed work as we have all come to expect.
It is reassuring to know that I am not alone in this. I have modeled myself into a corner more than once.
And aren't 1-2-3 blocks the handiest things?
Gary
Thank you Gary. I guess that is one of the fun challenges of scratch builds, finding a way to get yourself out of that corner.
As for the 1-2-3 blocks, I picked these up a couple of months ago and I can’t figure out how I ever got along without them. They are indeed handy tools to have around.
-Brian
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11 hours ago, Keith Black said:
All lovely little bits, Brian. Impressive work as always.
Thank you Keith. All the little bits add up after a while. It’s going to be nice when they are all in place and not scattered about my work bench.
-Brian
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Hello again Everyone,
Once again slow going, but I figured I'd go ahead and throw out there what I completed this time around.
Forward armor plating of the casemates and hawse pipes were completed.
The armor plating similar to the port and starboard sides. This side was a little trickier as the rivets weren't all in line so it made it a little more complex to get them all placed correctly.
Next up were the junior officer quarters. Again more research was done to determine how these rooms were constructed, and again my research turned up nothing. I consulted with the group building the St. Louis and their research was inconclusive as well. They did say that the area was possibly set up as a soft walled, "tent like" construction that could be easily taken down and stowed when needed, but there was still no hard evidence that this was the case. So once again I took my builders liberties and used the HSR drawings as my basis for their construction. The HSR show the outline of toe boards where the walls were made with wood construction.
I did however deviate from the plans a bit. The drawings show four rooms on the starboard side and five on the port side. Since I didn't thoroughly think this out before putting the cutaway on the port side the extra room on the port side would block the view of the paddlewheel from the inside. So I decided to leave that room out to give a somewhat clearer view of the wheel. Very little of these rooms will be seen, but I wanted to add them just for the added detail.
Here is the construction of the rooms before being installed.
And here they are painted and installed.
Next were some more of the interior walls. This particular one was for the port side of the paddlewheel house. I left it open, exposing the timbers so that it will be possible to see the paddlewheel through the viewport.
Wall temp installed.
Wall with the paddlewheel in place. The way these are constructed there is no way to put the wheel axle in from the sides, so I am going to have to build all four walls and install them and the paddlewheel in one assembly. Another part I didn't quite think through. It's all good though, I think I can manage.
Up next was the construction of the cannon implements. This was just a standard set of Naval cannon tools used on most Navy vessels during the 19th century. So I built up 13 sets of ramrods, bore worms, barrel swabs and powder cups.
For all of these, I made the handles from decorative toothpicks.
The worms were made from brass wire coiled and cut. A small hole was drilled into the end of the toothpick and the wire inserted and glued into place.
The ramrods were created using a filed down Xacto blade and turned on my lathe. These pieces were then glued to the toothpick.
The barrel swabs were made from a brown pipe cleaner. Part of the fuzzy material was removed to expose the center wire. Again a small hole was drilled in then end of the toothpick and the pipe cleaner glued and inserted.
Finally up were the powder cups. These were made from heat shrink material cut and shaped to form the cup.
The complete set of implements.
Next I stained all of the handles then painted each of the ends.
All done.
A while back I had started work on the rudders, but never finished them. So it was time to get them completed. I am glad that I waited for this step, since making my discovery on how to simulate the rivets. I used this method to simulate the rivets on the pintles or the gudgeons (I always get confused as to which one is which).
Gudgeons/Pintles drilled.
I drilled the holes completely through the rudders so that I could use the styrene rod to hold the brass straps in place.
All rivets completed on both rudders.
Finally a little red oxide paint and we are done.
That is all for this update. Hopefully next time I will have more. I did get an email yesterday that my cannons should be ready sometime next week, so hopefully I can get those in and start rigging them to the carriages. Once those are done and the captains quarters and heads are built I will be getting pretty close to closing things up on the gun deck. Not trying to rush things, just getting excited about moving on to the next deck.
Until then, thank you all very much for the kind words and likes as well as stopping by to visit my build.
-Brian
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Eric,
For what it’s worth, I think you made the right choice going with the sail unfurled instead of stowed. The extra weathering added a nice touch to it. With the sails set and all oars locked in place, she’s going to be a beautiful display.
As for your poor mans lathe, I still turn all my yards that way, or any piece that requires a taper. I feel that I have more control with the sandpaper than when it’s in my actual lathe.
-Brian
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Daniel, it just amazes me as to how much detail you can put into each and every little segment of the this build. Truly fascinating. It’s a joy to watch you work.
-Brian
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6 hours ago, Keith Black said:
These two photos show my impatience to see the mast with all the spars attached even though the six are raw without their bits and paint.
Keith,
I wouldn’t call it impatience, I would call it a photo of you test fitting the spars to make sure they look authentic and fit correctly. 😜
Good thing the model police weren’t watching, I’ve been guilty on numerous occasions of jumping ahead and “dry fitting” parts before they are ready to be installed. It’s part of the fun. The photos show that she is really starting to look complete and how beautiful she’s going to be. Keep them coming.
-Brian
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Keith,
Beautiful job. She’s really starting to come together. Almost to one of my favorite parts of the build, the rigging. It definitely looks like there is a ship emerging from the shadows.
-Brian
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Sails look great Eric!
So for your reinforcement lines did you use paper as well or a different material?
I’ve never used pastels before in modeling, only a looong time ago in high school art class, but I do remember thought that it was a pretty messy medium. I’m curious as to how you keep the colors from smearing while handling the sails without a protective coating sprayed on them. I’d have my reds, yellows and browns smeared all over the place. Probably even on models I’m not even working on yet.
-Brian
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Wefalck,
This is just beautiful precision work you have going on here. I have been eyeballing a mini milling machine for several years now to try my hand at metalwork, but I just can’t seem to fit it in the budget. For now my mini wood lathe will have to do.
...but one day.
-Brian
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Johann,
Simply amazing and precise work. A true pleasure to watch your work.
-Brian
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George,
Always glad to help out. I used a pin vise when I drilled these out. It’s a little tedious, time consuming and tends to cramp the hand after a while, but given its close proximity to the gunwales I didn’t want to risk getting the drill misaligned and drill through the planking.
I did forget to mention that I did all this after the comings and decking were in place. It was one of those “aww crap” moments I had not long after the top rail was glued down.
-Brian
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On 4/4/2021 at 12:38 AM, gak1965 said:
Really looking amazing. When you are done, is it for your home, or are you thinking of offering it to Vicksburg NMP?
Thank you for the kind words George, this one will be for my own personal viewing. Not quite sure it would be up to museum standards. Not to mention the Cairo museum already has a couple of scale models on display.
One is a model of how she sits in her permanent full size display and the other is a cutaway version. Both beautiful models.
-Brian
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George,
Love the green scheme. I went with the traditional black with white trim on my build, but I like the way the green stands out. It adds a nice touch of uniqueness to her.
I want throw this out there. It’s been a while since I was at this stage on my build, and I don’t recall what the instructions dictate, but if you are planning to install the hold vent tubes, now is the time to do it. I remember struggling to drill the holes and setting the tubes because I had installed the top rail first. I can’t remember if I got ahead of myself and put the rail on first or if that was the way the instructions call out the assembly, but they are much easier to place while you still have everything open. Just a thought.
-Brian
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Eric,
IMO I’m with Steven on this one. I would think that the shields would tend to get in the way if they were stored in the benches.
However, if they were mounted on the gunwales it looks as though they may get in the way of the oar ports. Not sure if this is just the camera angle deceiving my view.
On the other hand, you could do a mixture of both, but I did like the idea of placing some of them along the cradle.
-Brian
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Keith, the warmer weather does tend to put a slowdown on the building. As much fun as it is, we still need to shed that winter coat and enjoy the springtime and work on the other yards.
Yards (ship wise) are looking great though. We are a patient bunch, so enjoy the outdoors.
-Brian
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19 hours ago, mcb said:
Pipe work looks great.
I will have to remember that rivet method.
Thanks MCB. There is usually a lot of trial and error with new techniques, this one just happened to be a happy accident that worked out perfectly.
-Brian
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20 hours ago, BANYAN said:
A very nice build you have going here Brian, especially noting this is your first scratch build. The level of detail and clean work are admirabl.
Thanks Pat. I was a little nervous at first about tackling a scratch build, but the more I get into it, the more I’m settling into it.
-Brian
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4 hours ago, FriedClams said:
Terrific work Brian. I especially like the rivet trick and I must try that sometime.
Gary
Thank you Gary. I may have stumbled on a good submission for the “Model Tips and Tricks” discussion.
-Brian
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5 hours ago, vaddoc said:
Brian, wonderful work! Certainly inspiring and is great fun following your log. I ve never used or even touched styrene but seems a very versatile material. Really, your boat looks seriously good.
Vaddoc, thank you for the kind words. This is the first build that I have used styrene on extensively and it is a great product for those hard to bend pieces that will be painted. I did use is a little bit on my last build, but nothing significant (only made a few downspouts with it). I definitely foresee me using a lot more of it on this build though.
-Brian
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21 minutes ago, Moab said:
Brian; forgive me for repeating myself several times. Your build is very inspiring. The photos and the text are very helpful...Moab
Thank you Moab. No worries, feel free to repeat away, it never gets old. Definitely makes me feel better knowing that my work is helpful and inspiring to others.
-Brian
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26 minutes ago, Cathead said:
That riveting method is brilliant and almost (but not quite) convinces me to revisit that on my current project.
Thank you Eric. Just dangling that carrot out there for you.😜
-Brian
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USS Tennessee 1869 by Keith Black - scale 1:120 - Wood Hull Screw Frigate - ex Madawaska 1865
in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
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Keith,
It’s always worth it when the tedium pays off. Even more fun getting to do the happy dance. Beautiful job on the jack stays.
-Brian