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There are some tools, wood and copies of Model Shipwright from the workshop of a ship modeller who passed away a year or so ago on Ebay. A Hegner scroll saw and a Proxxon mill are among them. I have, with the permission of the mods and the seller, posted this just so you lads and lasses can see what is up for sale. MSW members get a special deal! The seller has offered a price reduction on the power tools to MSW members who message the seller to identify themselves. I have no connection with the family running the listings other than having happily purchased a couple of items from them. Here is a link to the Ebay user, https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/darren.wilding … and select ‘Items for Sale’ to see what is on offer. (Please note the seller is in the UK) Hope this is useful, Bruce

Hello Sperry, welcome to MSW. Don't know if you are interested in any particular country or region, but here is a good place to start: https://navaldockyards.org/deptford/ HTH Bruce

Seriously guys, it's all in this book. The simple story of how Forester was at sea and had the idea that became 'Hornblower' is worthy of a TV documentary all by itself.

... and a drawing of the correct figurehead for Victory at Trafalgar. These old magazines have their uses.

She lost contact with the fleet in the night before the battle and was trying hard to rejoin in the light breeze throughout the day. I speculate that the time lost by the fleet in maneuvering into lines of battle allowed Africa to make up ground. She joined in time to be blooded in the battle.

That is interesting. I tried something that looked identical a couple of years ago and it left a residue on the sanded surface. I assumed it had a lubricant of some sort. Good find.

Hello Holly, welcome to MSW. Two things: One: This is what is known as a 'half hull' model. They were used for centuries by shipwrights to give a 3D representation of a ship's shape, and could be of an existing ship or a proposal. This may have been as a reference to allow the lines (the shape of the hull) to be studied or copied, or it could even have been used as a sales aid when making a pitch to a prospective investor. This is a much more modern item and, again, may represent a specific craft being built or (more likely) was a model of a known craft with personal ties. Two: If you are near a body of water then you may find that it represents one of the local types. Whatever your region, if there was a significant waterway there will be some local characteristic craft. You have not indicated where you are but you did say 'ya'll' so ... southern USA? 😊 HTH Bruce (retired researcher 😉) EDIT: Ryland beat me to it by one minute.

Good to have you on board David, and the models look good.

Below is a list of ships present at Trafalgar. Any errors, please advise. Also, any comments on the kits of these ships would be helpful; not a whole review, just something like ‘not for beginners’, ‘best around’, ‘be aware this has a solid hull’, ‘updated 2010’ etc. English ships: Victory Temeraire Neptune Leviathan Conqueror Agamemnon Britannia Ajax Orion Minotaur Spartiate Royal Sovereign Bellisle Colossus Mars Tonnant Bellerophon Achille Polyphemus Revenge Swiftsure Defence Thunderer Defiance Prince Dreadnought Euralyus Naiad Phoebe Sirius Pickle Entrepenante French ships: Scipion 78 Formidable 81 Duguay Trouin 83 Mont Blanc 86 Héros 92 Bucentaure 98 Neptune 100 Redoutable 102 Indomptable 109 Fougueux 112 Intrépide 115 Pluton 119 Aigle 122 Algésiras 126 Swiftsure 130 Argonaute 132 Achille 137 Berwick 142 Cornélie 148 Hermione 149 Hortense 150 Rhin 151 Thémis 152 Furet 153 Argus 154 Spanish ships: San Juan Nepomuceno 145 Neptuno 75 Rayo 80 San Francisco de Asis 87 San Agustin 89 Nuestra Señora de la Santísima Trinidad 95 San Leandro 104 San Justo 105 Santa Ana 106 Monarca 117 Bahama 121 Montañés 125 Argonauta 128 San Ildefonso 134 Principe de Asturias 139

Ahhh, Trafalgar, the most famous battle at sea ever. And of course an eternal source of inspiration for ship modellers everywhere. Is there a list of kits of ships that were at Trafalgar? Here is the order of battle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_at_the_Battle_of_Trafalgar#Table_of_the_British_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_at_the_Battle_of_Trafalgar#Table_of_the_French-Spanish_fleet Apologies if this has been covered before.

Medieval Ship Project - Specialist Report: RIGGING Newport_Medieval_Ship_Project_Specialist.pdf

I think you will really like 'The Real Hornblower: the Life and Times of Admiral Sir James Gordon GCB' by Bryan Perrett (1997). It's a good read and didn't hurt my thumbs at all.

Sooty, Καλως ΗΡΘΑΤΕ! Welcome aboard MSW. That is a very good looking model and it is not a common subject. I look forward to your build log. Bruce

Good question. The rigging is a bit special, it has exactly the 'look' I hope to achieve. Great looking model, well done.

My best guess: that is the story of 99% of the workshop accidents I know about. It is behind 100% of my own accidents. Really glad you came through this with all your fingers, Time to rest, binge on YouTube and reflect. Stay safe and heal, we want to see this project. Regards, Bruce

A couple of machines for sale from a modelmakers estate may be of interest to members here. They belong to someone who is not a member of MSW so I have offered to pass on contact details if anyone wants to know more. If interested PM me with your email address and I will send them on, then I play no further part. I have not seen these machines in person but have bought another machine from the same source and was completely satisfied with the description given and delivery arrangements. Bruce

They also have excellent customer service. Somehow I got it into my head that they carried Globus blades but I got no hits when I searched the name in their site. I used them for a looooooong time when I was working but haven't had anything for the last few so can't say what the 'cold caller' sales arrangements are now.

Absolutely wonderful.

Apologies if this has been nailed down before. The sizes of barrels and butts etc are established, and for that I am grateful. However, my trivial point is this: what width were the staves? In other words, how many staves would a barrel/butt of a given size have in the 18th - 19th century? I cannot imagine it was not subject to rules then as it is now, but were the rules the same? A modern whiskey barrel of 200 litres/55 gallons has between 31 and 33 staves. Wiki searches give a lot of good info on the dimensions of casks etc but (unless I am overlooking something) the staves are not covered. Considering the number of different woods used and the world wide nature of the industry it would not surprise me to find there were several standards, so to summarise, does anybody know where to start? Below is a copy and paste of an MSW post ... that seems to be the final word on dimensions and helps with identification of the different sizes of containers. " The height of a 'barrel', for example is the cube root of (54 raised to the third power times 150/36). This gives a height for the barrel of 34 inches and a diameter of 22 inches. Here are the values for the others: Leager 150 gallons 54" high x 36" diameter Tun 220 gallons 61" high x 41" diameter Butt 110 gallons 49" high x 32" diameter Hogshead 54 gallons 38" high x 25" diameter Barrel 36 gallons 34" high x 22" diameter Rundlet 16 gallons 25" high x 17" diameter These are rounded of and not very accurate, but since there were no real 'standards' they are good enough for me. You might want to compare this with the picture Ron showed for various containers. Now I can make my own 'barrels'." Any thoughts? Thanks, Bruce

You may be able to get engineers parallels that suit your needs. For use as shown, there are quite a few things in a metalworkers workshop that have parallels sides such as slip gauges. and, perhaps most useful of all, square lathe tools like this: Sacrilege perhaps, but I cut 'em down to one inch or less lengths to suit the gap. They come in different sizes. The model is looking really good.

I believe the company you are thinking of is in Poland: https://www.globus-wapienica.com/search.php?searchString=slitting Their products are sometimes sold in the UK but I can't find a current distributor. However, they will supply directly. Has anyone used their blades for Byrnes saws? HTH Bruce

Henrik, it looks fantastic. You must be verrrrrry happy!

From 'The Strand' magazine on the Naval Exhibition of 1891:

Hello Dougal, and a warm welcome to MSW from misty Sussex. You will find all the support you can hope for here, and I will give you the easiest answer of all: You can never have enough clamps! I suggest you also study the build logs here for boats similar to yours to see the variety of ways people find to do the same tasks on different boats. Which technique seems to feel 'right' for you will probably emerge. can we look forward to a build log? Regards, Bruce

Title: "The Complete Modellist Shewing the True and Exact Way of Raising the Model of Any Ship Or Vessel, Small Or Great, Either in Proportion, Or Out of Proportion ... Performed by Thomas Miller" 1667 ship building.pdf I hadn't seen this before. BTW, this is my 1000th post. Thank you, MSW, and all who sail in her. Bruce