cotrecerf

Hi Giampiero and friends,

sorry, I was wrong: the chisels were discussed in the German ship modeller forum " Arbeitskreis Historischer Schiffbau" under https://forum.arbeitskreis-historischer-schiffbau.de/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1536

rgds

Thanks, Giampiero,

I wondered whether you got the chisels from a different supplier than the Russian; the Russian chisel set was discussed in this forum already.

An alternative supplier from say within the European Community would facilitate the order and delivery handling.

best regards

cotrecerf

Hello Giampiero,

very impressive quality of work. I'm interested to know what amnufacture are the mini-chisels you use. Where to buy?

rgds

cotrecerf

you are so resourcefull!  Pieno d'immaginazione. Bravo

gianpieroricci,

your build is outstanding, simplemente fantastico!

cotrecerf

Hello Blue Ensign,

years ago I've seen scale "silver darlings" made from caraway seed airbrushed with silver paint. From a distance they looked quite convincing.

Be sure to use the right caraway fruits; cumin fruits ar shorter and thicker!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caraway  

b rgds

cotrecerf

Sorry,

forgot to show the link of Duke William plan: https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/86177.html

Hello tabycz,

yes, this box is a housing of the rudder head; imho I suggest a dual use in some cases: seat-of-ease for the captain, crew have to use channels. 

Hello Louie da fly and all others interested in this subject,

I have a facsimile print of this medieval travel report. The handwriting is Gothische Kursive  widely used all over Europe for makin books ( almost all were hand-written. Two specialists for that era, Prof. Dr. F. Reichert and Dr. A. Denke have scientifically examined the original  and transcribed the text into modern German. In my translation it says:

This Nave (ship) stood  by Modon ( town in Greece Peloponnes). It is said, it held 800 Moors ( African slaves) , who had been bought as their property by the Turks, poor people. It is estimated that the Turks were 400 people. They sailed to Modon and bought many oxen and other things, so that everything became expensive immediately.

As to the representation of the ship it is to be considered, that von Grünemberg contracted professional writers and illustrators, who had actually NOT seen the ship personally. The illustrators very often simply copied existing representations and made some individual additions to make them more "flashy" and in such way wanted to justify their wages.

The ship is to represent definetly a Turkish vessel plying in the Eastern Mediterranean. The golden "balls" in the mast top may represent clay jars holding fuel to be trown to an enemy ship to set it at fire.

In any case it is a very interesting matter to further investigate in shipbuilding during late medieval period.

best regards from a hot and damp Germany.

Cotrecerf

I envy you so much for your manufacturing abilities. Gorgeous!!

b rgds

cotrecerf

I discovered a box containing af Chapman plans of Architectura Navalis in the early 1980's in an antiquarian bookshop in Cologne. I got it for then 100.00 Deutschmarks. The box contains 6 carton folders with all plans, "frontispiece" showing Stockholm at the time of af Chapman and the rigging overview of all ships shown in the plans..

In this non-digital era I made lots of photocopies of the English cutter plans (side elevation and frames) scaled to 1:50. When I got internet access in the 1990's I sampled much more detailed information and could compare plans of various contemporary cutter builds, as the Chapman plans do not show much detail of deck fittings and other details.

We ship modellers are lucky nowadays: all the Chapman plans and many others are available in digitalized formats.

best regards an I hope you enjoyed a Happy Fourth!

Hello Ryland,

up to date, there is no further progress of the build, .... BUT.... I bought a brandnew Table Saw plus all accessories (except tilting table for now)  from Jim Byrnes. It took surprisingly little time for shipment and bringing it through German import procedures. At present I make trials on this machine and on an Emco Unimat 3 Lathe plus Milling unit I acquired a while ago. So there are steep learning curves for me to master in integrating more machines in my modelling work.  Once I produce presentable results on my cutter build, I'll share pics.

So long. Regards

Joachim

Very nice to see you and your works back on board! I especially like the atmospheric aspect of your paintings. Thanks!

excellent material, excellent tools and excellent workmanship...wow! especially the multi-purpose workbench is real eyecandy!

Best wishes for a good year 2020 to all of you,

of course I support the point of view of Bilge Rat:  "Go with what you feel on this .  And don't feel alone, my head hurts too"

However, I looked a little deeper into the matter and  found some pics of a modell of a 74 gun ship by the name of Le Protecteur actually built in 1760, this model of which was made in 1770 and is part of the modell collection of the 

[afficher]musée national de la Marine de Paris

you can see the hammocks in their nets partially protruding over the line of the hull.   Source: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Protecteur_mg_7259.jpg

regards    Cotrecerf

Gentlemen,

I found a quote  concerning hammock in French Marine Royale: "règlements de la Marine. L’article 9 de celui du 15 janvier 1780, finit en ces termes : ”Les hamacs seront mis à la traîne tous les mois et en relâche ils seront lavés à terre”. proving that according to the regulations of the marine  issued 15. January 1780 in article 9 hammocks were so commonly used, that there had to be regulations of usage, cleaning etc.  So to me the racks shown in th drawings are hammock racks. 

Source: https://voilesetvoiliers.ouest-france.fr/culture/histoire-de-la-marine/branle-bas-d1477128-69c9-a34c-885a-cdcd48f48467

😉 you are so predictable: pure excelence again!

and again, I'm full of admiration.  and I see how much there is for me to learn yet.

Here is my long time build (> 10 years) . I'm going to pick up work on her by the end of this year. Basically its's my first ever scratch build after initial two kit models. 

Still a lot to do, but I enjoy very much thus being compelled to learn lots of new technologies and skills, materials and manufacturing know-how. With the support of this Forum I'am sure to come up with a nice model some day. 😉

Thank you ever so much, Valeriy for your quick answer. They look so perfect. I've seen some half cowls made from brass sheet embossed by hand in a negative wooden die.

Electro-forming is undoutedly much more precise. Congratulations 

Thanks Chris for your putting my question into an understandable technical expression. Yes, electro-forming is what i wanted to say.

Thanks Valeriy for confirming. I would appreciate very much a description of your technology, if your time allows.

Dear Valeriy,

absolutely stunning work!  How did you make the cowls of the ventilation shafts, by electro-galvanzed building-up fall-out?

They look so much better than punched half-cowls brazed together.

Hello Valeriy,

wow, fantastic work! Varyag is of the same period and style as a future project I am planning to build: German Gun Boat Iltis II stationary  of Tsing Tau in 1900.

Looking forward to learning of the progress of your Cruiser.

Joachim

Hello Captain Hook,

I made a compilation of gun sizes ( Armstrong Frederick-Design ) of 1760. Dimensions in Imperial and conversion into metric.

Some details of carriages ( also in German language) from various sources as well. All in a xls sheet. I will try to turn the 3 -pounders on my small Unimat-3 lathe.

I'll inform about results later. I'm working on Af Chapman English cutter. 

Armstrong-Frederick Cannons Umrechnungen.xlsx

Hello to all of you from the beautiful area of the Western Wood in the State of Rhineland-Palatine in Germany,

I'm happy to be a new member of MSW and this most interesting forum. I very much appreciate the profound  historical knowledge and technical Know-how displayed here in the Forum. I am mainly interested in historic ship building of the 18th century in Europe and the US.