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Update
this sequence is dedicated to the build of the wheelhouse, nav- and controlroom. Also the planked deck for the "monkey platform" is ready for mounting. The nav. light containments will be integrated in to the wheelhouse railing panels
Nils
brass windowframes ( square-tube) are fitted in, tight fit
the wheelhouse walls are from 0,8mm ply mounted to the framework
section is painted and the monkey plattform deck has dryfit
The "glassing" of 18 windows
silicone glassing bits pressed in, tight fit into the window frames
the "monkey plattform" deck will be permanently glued on, when the wheelhouse section is screwed down to the boats deck
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good progress Greg,
she`s looking great
Nils
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Hi Sterlingclements,
beautiful and excellent built "America". I love the sights into the ship
Well done !!
Nils
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Hi Keith,
there is no particular reason, the reason is just, that I was looking for a way to do the window frames. Using squarebar tube it worked well with my Ergenstrasse, The brass squarebar is 1 mm thickness, in scale that would simulate the windowframe dimensions so here it goes again ......
for small scale ( etc 1:160) an alternative is to fix approriate slide guides on the inside of a window front and then slide in one an acrylic stripe that covers all windows simultainiously That is completely without any glue and a clean job. I used that version on my "Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" model
Nils
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thank you very much John,
I`ll take off the wheelhouse now (screws) and do the remaining sides. The six preliminary pillars of the frame will stay in place until the sides are all closed and then cut away.
Nils
- Canute, FriedClams and mtaylor
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Hi Veszett,
I refrained from using flat transparent polysterol or food containment packages because its too messy with the glueing in, and CA leaves sometimes leaves a nasty stain.
I`m quite happy with the methode I described, also the silicone is translacent (semi transparent), so I need not worry what the inside of the appropriate superstructure looks like, I do`nt have to fit it out
Nils
square silicone bar 6 x 6 inside a 8 x 8 square brass tube, sorry for the rather poor photo quality
mounted it would look like this (second from left window )
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Rudder chain device is great Valeriy,
obviously it was not hyraulic operated yet
Nils
- Keith Black, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others
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Thanks for your words Uwe,
all the coming items are being built from pictures as good as I can
I found a solution for finding the "lost" anchor cable in the closed hull, and to secure it. I`m currently trying my luck with the wheel- and nav house from 0,8 mm ply, I´ll try to do the square windowframes like already done once for the "Ergenstrasse", which has the same scale. Its a bit more tricky and fragile here in order to bring 8 windows over the limited wheelhouse breadth
Nils
a hole was drilled into the forecastle bulkhead, the "lost" achorcable of the hall anchor fished through this hole and secured with a wooden stopper. This lays between bulkhead and its cover item.
Paint touchups pending later on
the arrangement for the waistdeck fastenings of the mooring cable
made a little framework for the wheelhouse sides. A wooden spacebar provides for the right height afterwards
there are panama fairleads to prevent dammage to the railing
the framework is fastend to the boats deck with screws so that it follows the decks sheer
a card template for making the front window front, the other sidewalls will be done likewise
the windowframes will be made from brass square tube, the glassing done later with square extruded semitransparent silicone bar
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You`re right Veszett,
thanks for your input ....
unfortunately I had no oportunity to vist the real ship yet and take my own photos, so that my orientation comes from other models built by other skilled modelers. I`m pleased with my own version.
There is a white skirt outside around the decks length, that would incorporate the decks hight with the aft section, in fact it would narrow the sight on to the decks house from the side
I`m including 3 pics from other well built models from master builders
Nils
this is a model of Horst Henryschowski (the deck is laying on the aft section
model of Helmut Thomas, which is my favorite benchmark
Model of Helmut Thomas
the real thing moored at Cuxhaven. The white tent on top is for visiting guests only, since the ship is out of duty
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16 hours ago, empathry said:
Hi there ! I remain highly favourable to the "ancient traditional style" workmanship, sculpting the pearwood with one's hands, just as you do Haiiaphnk !
Realizing a model is a true adventure with high (enlighted) moment ... and also more difficult moments ; and the new generations prefer to throw away those (supposed) difficult moments by using computers.
Therefore and for the fun (because I don't wish start a combat), I wish to post hereunder the realizations of some vessels made by AI programmed softwares ... Please feel free to comment !
16 hours ago, empathry said:Hi there ! I remain highly favourable to the "ancient traditional style" workmanship, sculpting the pearwood with one's hands, just as you do Haiiaphnk !
Realizing a model is a true adventure with high (enlighted) moment ... and also more difficult moments ; and the new generations prefer to throw away those (supposed) difficult moments by using computers.
Therefore and for the fun (because I don't wish start a combat), I wish to post hereunder the realizations of some vessels made by AI programmed softwares ... Please feel free to comment !
Hi HALLPHNK,
nice paintings, but in the first pic its the first time I see a squarerrigger sailing backwards and the top flags are in wind direction
Nils
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Many thanks Uwe and John,
for your words
Nils
- FriedClams, Jack12477, mtaylor and 1 other
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Thank you Keith,
yes, I bought a bunch of longer and broader rubber bands some time ago and now they come good to use.
The light mast (till unfinished) was one of the first parts I started with. There will be a ladder from boats deck to the light platform later on. That will be quite tricky to solder ....
Today I closed the long deckhouse with the deck on it, and first made a pic of the last possible look into the hull. The moment the deck was glued on I realized that the cable from the hall anchor was only prefixed with a tape, so I have to find a solution for fixing the cable permanently, because I had unfortunately forgpotten to do so
Nils
last look into the hull. here one can see the cable I had forgotten to tie to the frames or somewhere else.
Also the turnbuckles can be seen. Bollards and Panama fairleads are also mounted on foredeck and along the long deckhouse
the chain end (of mushroom anchor) coming from the front bulkhead (on deck) is going to be fastened to the spring loaded buffer element
the underside of the boatsdeck is painted except (taped off ) for spaces where the supports will be fixed and the deck to be glued on to the superstrcture below
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Update
made the boat`s deck and planked it, also coming for edges and aft stair outcuts. The fastening points (turnbuckles) for the mast stays were mounted. It would be difficult to mount the bottlesrews after the deck is on.
The blanc patches on the deck in the areas for the boats will be plated with a profiled anti slip layer
Nils
the card template for the boats deck
start with the planking. Deck and planking strips are both 0,8mm thick, so the total thickness is 1,6mm. That is flexebil enough for sheric bending down when glueing it on.
measures to bring the curvature into the deck
supports will be mounted (10 on each side) between deck and bulwark
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many thanks Roel and Keith,
I learned a lot from your input with ref. to duty on lightships
Nils
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Hi Roel,
the propulsion was done with a 650 PS MTU / MAN diesel engine
Nils
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Hi Keith,
acc. to the techn. data of the Elbe 1 there was a 12 head crew, but i also unfortunately do`nt have any information for their individual tasks. Probably in duty-shift operation at a time there were 6 on duty and the other 6 had free time, (or on stand by).
The Elbe 1 is (was) the largest German lightship ever.
Nils
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congrats Kevin,
your Hercules is a very fine tugboat, well done, also thanks for your conclusion notice
Nils
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Thank you Phil,
for your input, I took a look at the Columbia WLV604 lightship per WW-web. A nice Vessel, perhaps we shall see a model of her here at MSW someday.
Nils
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many thanks for your words Andy,
you`re right, I also sometimes make a decision on a certain build sequence and start preparing to the intended thing, but after thinking it over twice I recognize that if I would do so, there is no more access to an item that lays behind or under the section I`m planing to do. So foot on the brake before continuing. For example, before the boatsdeck is placed, I have to make sure that the ship`s bollards are near to the appropriate fairleads and the footpoint-fastening positions of the lighttower stays are placed so that they do`nt interfere with other items, and that the stairs to the boats deck are clear form what is to be mounted items above later on.
For mounting the boatsdeck to the long deckhouse and to install a number of supports along the length, I decided to make a bunsh of wooden supports which have slight overhight so that the can be tuned to precise fit when mounting. In this case I refraigned from making a brass framework to mount on.
Nils
these are the 20 wooden supports for the boatsdeck. 2mm pine squarebars with ply-knees
a template for the boatsdeck, for evaluating positions etc.
the boatsdeck has a shere and a longitudinal curving. The standovers (port and starboard side ) need to be supported and fastened to bulwarks below and deck above. Before that the 0,8 mm ply deck needs to be planked, like the main deck below. All must be in accordance in what I wrote in the beginning of this post
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Thank you John,
I`m evaluating the boats deck and how it can be mounted with all those side supports to be fitted in ....
Nils
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ELBE 1 1948 by Mirabell61 - scale 1:87 - Lightship
in - Build logs for subjects built 1901 - Present Day
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Thank you very much Roel,
I never heard of "Colreg regulations) before, . Good to learn something further and especialy with resp. to Nav .lights housng dull black backround. Good to learn something new for my modeling. You`re right, at this stage I can easily correct that.
I looked up Colreg regulations in Google and found a listing of these regulations, but unfortunately not the passage where it stipulates the matt black neccesity to nav. lights containment background.
Please could you kindly copy me that passage, if you found it there. Many thanks. I believe this is also of interest for fellow modelers as well.
Nils