Vladimir_Wairoa

1 hour ago, rwiederrich said:

Thanks for the posts.  My favorite is Samuel Warren too.  I have a pretty good high quality image of it myself.   His color combinations  are slightly different from the image of her at San Francisco.  He didn't paint her red mast banding...nor did he paint in her mast recesses white.  He didn't paint her rail stanchions white.     Other then that she looks like I plan on modeling her.

 

Here is my copy of this painting if you wish it for resolution detail....to aid in your own model.

 

Rob 

  Rob im going to check Mr. google if there is any site selling commertial copies od this particular paint poster. id be interested   

4 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob & Vladimir,

Here's another special treat from Gina Bardi, Reference Librarian, San Francisco Maritime Museum courtesy of Michael Mjelde who was kind enough to forward my contact information to her. 

(1) my personal favorite is the entire framed oil painting by Samuel Warren

(2) a smaller watercolor by Alcott

(3) a well known painting by Warren Shepherd.

Thanks Rich. 

very improtant piantings i guess. i like Montagues Dawsons glory. though all three rerpesent different painting style my fave is probably 1st as well. is it original ? framed? im not good at piantings recognition but with its almost 2 dimensional overdetailed painting and colour depiction is reminding me of prerenesance italian tempera painters ...although done far far after...but beautiful all of them. stylishly very different. now im going to google -  Samuel Warren. 

20 hours ago, rookie said:

Exquisite work!

 

I really like the base 

its very pretty isnt it. it gives half of overall aesthetic feel like unseparable whole ...hmm

here you can see highlighted in green. centerline is sanded ( whitish) as it protruded above deck curvature just a little for about first 7 bulkheads. it was old raised sheerline i did correct  on holes for bulkheads - but not in centerline heights itself.  ...as bulkheads corrected it. V. 

19 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

I'm trying to figure out what offset for the bow bulkheads you are referencing?  I understand the slight error for the aft 3 bulkheads.....needing the planksheer to correct the sheer...but what exactly is the bow error in the bulkheads?  Is it the thickness of the bulkhead or the width of the frame size for the bulkhead?

 

I'll probably notice it when i get home and open it up and begin to dry fit it all...but still?

 

Rob

Rob I see i scared you but there is no need to...its pretty simple when you assemble bulkheafs and push down to the limit so they touch, from the half boat towards bow rise there will be centerline slightly exceeding out  from the deck floor... about 1 or 2 milimeters. i just sanded it off. bulkheads should sit fine. pelase note that it doesnt changes any measure or value for bulkheads etc. it just simple old centerline upper curve ididnt rework - all new measures went to sheerline so corelation between  touching point  of bulkheads and centerline holes.... just follow bulkheads deck curvature on top thats it. i hope it makes perfect sense when you assemble kit. i can take a pic as well. 

1 hour ago, ClipperFan said:

Vladimir, thanks for the "heads up" on slightly low bulkheads 15, 16 & 17. It looks like there's a pen mark at the base of 14 too but it's almost even with the base of the keel. 

As for your "little" project. Wow! Not being a woodworker myself. I haven't carved a thing since making neckerchief slides in Boy Scouts as a teen. I love all the careful interlocking pieces. I believe it's referred to as "mortise and tenon." There also appear to be round wooden pegs in use too. I'm also impressed with the care to be sure these lovely wooden studs are all elevated to prevent moisture laden wood rot. All in all a very impressive shelter. Just one question. What will it eventually be for?

Thanks for nice words Rich.Well its garden shed or gazebo or whatever they call it. winter is quite cold here so we like to gather and spend all summer outside, around table...working in garden etc....just to provptect from strong sun and rain....

speaking of it, im very much into timberframing, traditional way of mortise tenon and pegs...probably very known and common in usa, and my grand grand dad was a carpenter himself built oak roof structure in own hands etc. unfortunately in europe wood went to asthray and classical beauty of timberframing and wooden houses as well... it is bricks only culture and if wood with screws and nails. people forgot these wooden fastenings without nails...

i did it all myself from drying pine logs etc... this shed has 6 meters in longitude so with few more and land  i could easily build an insulated house of timber frames..im into this stuff a l lot. barn doors etc.... 

1 hour ago, ClipperFan said:

In his most recent email, Mike included this neat diagram by genuine, now retired shipwright Ron Haug from "Down Under." I love his jocular commentary about how further revelations of Glory's sleeker Bow has been giving him migraines!

To make it easier to view, I've enlarged that section of the paper.

wow this is helpful Rich. thanks so so much indeed. ! youre folks  on the spot and hand with whats needed the most  you certainly dont want estimated "rubbish" to walk out of your hands. 

1 hour ago, rwiederrich said:

Yeah....it arrived...I'm so glad for you.  I'm also glad that it too will find a special place in your heart and library.  Michael is a generous man and I have been blessed by his generosity myself........   He started it all.

 

I received the bulkheads on Monday...but because of the holiday and pots of company...I haven't opened it up yet.......However, that will change tonight when I get home from work.   

Thanks again so very much.

 

Rob

im so curious Rob.  you will notice there is slight overhand in centerline from center of the boat towards bow t obe sanded off as bulkheads goes littel deeper but that is nothing. i already did on mine. this appeared as reault of older drawing with even more elevated sheerline and i was a bit lazy to rework it all again. apart of this, Im nurturing hopes  Vlad 

This will have speacial place in my book library, as book has in my heart-  now even more.

Thanks a milion Rob.

46 minutes ago, Chuck said:

Its coming together.  I am not sure about the pear deck and cherry external planking.  I probably would have stuck to one or the other.  But you are making great progress.

Thank you Chuck. The thing is, hull is baswood varnished by the experimental tone i am not able to mix again same. Thankfully enough  i realised that 2 times applied liberon shellac privides 97 per cent same tone. After hell and nervousness by repaunting captain cabin i decided its no time for color experiments amymore and i could not wait i ask friend to cut upper beams for me ahead of project so i know where to move further as greenwich prototpype became colorwise my natural prototype...and I applied shellac. Those beams will be one of very few i wont purchase / not sure if part of entire chapter but doesnt matter now/  though as i already have those cut. This is what is looks like together with darker pear deck. I must admit if i had realised sooner shellac ca provide hull color, i would have  gone with same as hull but amyway , upper deck will be decision to ask for. If to follow lower deck - pear or going with shellac. But that is future. Even applLying even shellac is tedious work as ut can blilotch quite easily if appying with brush - i dont recommend. Best is i think applying by some moisture absorbing  cloth doing bites to the wood. I am quite satisfied how it turned out and its finally even so it is approved by my eye  sight after taking pics with  mobile phonem what to you think going with those? I think humbly it goes pretty consistent even and suporting overal being same tone ad hull...thst what i wanted. Thanks for any comment etc. Vlad 

Deck sanded finally. m moving along with things over pear deck....from now on i plan going with natural installations in hull color/ basically french polish over sanded wood. Capstan and columns as well. Maybe no red at all. Best thing i ever did was byuing black wire. I always sgruggled most with blackening wires. It takes time. Still i have to install various things, ladders, etc... Any comments appreciated. 

V. 

yay, I think than  Chuck plans those peculiar curvy instalments around catheads leading towards figurehead to complete what was started in chapter 6 seems will be in chapter 8. Amazing. 

4 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, your 2 day US mail also has a tracking # with insurance which I emailed to you. There should be no worries about it arriving on time. Vlad, I know you also plan to do your own Glory. I look forward to viewing your progress too.

Rich, it looks i will really start in september. Time is scarce commodity these days and time is money as well. I will have no time till than. But I will enjoyably watch Robs progress. Speaking off I had little time to play with her. Rob. please run some strip thru planksheer in abaft to adjust smooth line of the planksheer. 2 or three bulkheads need to be raised i think. look at photo pls.. looks like 3 bulkheads need to be adjusted slightly . dont glue those before adjusting. rest should play handsomely.

and slight offtopic, i did little 7 inch tmberframing, and with the fine smell of beautiful pine and oak, one can close eyes and be easily transformed right to the boston shipyard of bygone era, chiseling out those timbers. been quite a whole different experience than miniature modelmaking. more closer to actual ship building though....by the way i got book building of american clipper ship..so I can educate myself more. cant put it down...:)

all good

V.  

th line of the planksheer. 2 or three bulkheads need to be raised i think. look at photo pls.. looks like 3 bulkheads need to be adjusted slightly . dont glue those before adjusting. rest should play handsomely.

and slight offtopic, i did little 7 inch tmberframing, and with the fine smell of beautiful p

th line of the planksheer. 2 or three bulkheads need to be raised i think. look at photo pls.. looks like 3 bulkheads need to be adjusted slightly . dont glue those before adjusting. rest should play handsomely.

and slight offtopic, i did little 7 inch tmberframing, and with the fine smell of beautiful p

6 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Wait .......    Vlad did you receive your signed book yet?   I can’t believe it takes longer then the bulkheads.    So excited

 Hasnt yet but stay calm Rob :)), . it depends on many factors as frequencies of flights and we are country like quarter of texas  it might have arrived  just there is overload at custom entry due pandemic ets ...i sent it within trqcking number so it surely sped it up ....

beautiful cannons Bob, i like natural color . going lovely with black lafette. 

V. 

7 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, I sent you and Vlad an email. Our bulkheads arrived in the mail yesterday; too late to be resent. Your kit went out in today's mail and you you should get it Tuesday, June 1st.

Rich wow . arrived? great ! that was quick for todays standard ! . Im glad it came. ! cant wait to reach Rob and see him building. V.

wonderful JJ. Hat off  

7 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, Vlad,

Taking a closer look at the tip of her bow to where her monkeyrail terminates, it appears to be more forward than we previously estimated. Coincidentally the line of Seattle Grain Co Warehouse behind aligns almost perfectly with this sharp joint. Following it down, there's a small space between Glory's bowsprit and her naval hood where the line of that building continues. Visually, to determine where this projecting line meets at her cutwater, there are some curving lines which almost exactly meet that juncture. I encourage anyone planning to build a model of her to reassess this aspect, since this near perfect broadside in such great clarity sheds new light on this important facet of her beautiful bow.

Thanks Rich. I take this to consideration & assume carving angling designing and instaling & measuring knightheads will be one of the most important tasks/ challenge to get right considering overall aspect of look. it will certainly take time. V. 

@Rob, fyi trackable parcel was sent to Rich so he will resend your half within states. officially should be 6-9 days but im sure it will be longer nowadays ...we will see. 

Hoping for the speeď

V. 

i cannot imagine bending ends on these wonderful cedar planks. I had enough with lime wood :)) but Rons undertimber is excellent on both sides and nicely massive enough to accomodate planks fairly comfortably. fantastic work. 

On 5/3/2021 at 2:57 AM, Stuntflyer said:

I thought it might be a good time to get this post in as it covers a number of tasks that I've been working on.

 

Starting with the gun port lids.

 

The first step was to get these two planks fitting correctly

 

The last plank is placed underneath so that the bottom edge can be traced

 

The final result with all three planks in place

 

When adding the frieze, the top section is cut away so it can be registered with the frieze below.

 

Final result with lid lining attached, painted and ready for hinge

 

Pinned cleats to the bulwarks.

 

Transom windows and sills 

 

 

Mike

Oh Mike astounding.i love kind of dry color of it very much matching carving statues. this is modeling  porn level:) 

28 minutes ago, Ron Burns said:

Hi everyone! First thing, Thank you for the encouragement and likes. It feels good

Minor little update. First 2 strakes below the wales are in. Chuck, your pre-made stealers stole the show! They actually went in with very little refinement needed at all. Planking up to the counter brought out my Temporary Acquired Tourettes in a big way. My wife was making 'wash my mouth out with soap' cracks for a little while there but all ended up working out (even though I borrowed from Carlin's 7 dirty words). I imagine the tight bends will be less obnoxious as they are getting larger. Please excuse the photos. I'm stuck with the cell camera today. 

Next stop, tick strips!

its wonderful Ron.thisis Chucks level to me. photography included. soon hull will be ready.hay ho:) 

Im having blast watching whats materialising on deck and Chucks speedy progress. Looks like we are going forward standing aft. deck is getting lovely busy. im anticipating the final black rail most. but ill zave to wait tillend i guess:))). from the start :). thank you.

Rob, Richard, 

too much of good things i see -  i didnt have time to study your posts will check it over  weekend though, just FYI both sets have been cut and already on the way to me! meaning next week im sending them to you guys. 

apology for taking it longer he apologized for being very busy. 

V.

2 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said:

Vlad,

Your deck is off to a good start!

Try sanding the planks to the width with a long flat sanding board or stick rather than cutting or sanding by hand, you’ll get much cleaner seams. And test fit several times before you finally glue down, that way you can make several adjustments. Then once all the planks are glued down give them a nice sand with a small sanding block to take them all down to an even height. 

Thanks scrubbyj ,exacty what  im doing with bigger flat board with glued sandpaper on to keep surface even. wood is quite firm.   ill post pics soon . appreciated.