Gregory

I had a look at your longboat log and didn't see a clear shot of the transom planked or unpainted. Did I miss something?

Most of the longboat kits have a solid piece for the transom. I assume on the actual boats this would not have been a solid piece and would have been built up with some kind of planking involved. Anyone aware of any references that covers this? I'm guessing some kind of framework with horizontal planks.. Or, would there be some other arrangement?

There was also a drain system installed along with lead sheathing for the ' garden '.. The ' scuttles ' had covers according to AOTS . However, covers are not apparent on the NMM drawings. Seems that covers would be logical.

We also had this discussion in another Bounty log a while back..

Might be a solution here:

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A little more info about the kit would be interesting.

How long? If you are plank bending, I would do it until visible moisture disappears, then an extra minute or so... Distance? A couple of inches or so.. Just make sure you let it cool down before unclamping. If it springs back after unclamping, do it again and let it cool longer.

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You can also unravel the rope and pull a strand through for starters..

How long are those? Looking in another log, they look a lot like the ones that came with my Resolution. I modified them to look like this, and feel they don't look too bad. I'll show you the steps I took if you are interested.

Vanguard Models has open and closed hearts in sizes starting at 6mm.. They are offered with the 1:64 kits in mind so they should be a good fit..

The planking information and tutorials can be difficult to navigate; there is a lot to digest. Buried in there somewhere is information on how to calculate the width of the planks from stem to stern. You should determine how many planks are needed amidships then measure the available space at the stem and sternpost. You would then divide those spaces by the number of planks amidships, and that would tell you how wide the planks need to be at bow and stern. Typically the planks at the bow would need to be tapered to half their width or less. At the stern they would need to be wider, and that is where stealers would be used To avoid the planks being to narrow at the bow, you would utilize drop planks. This illustration from Mondfeld calls the drop planks stealers, but the principal is clear. I have not seen the " English " method used at the bow on any plans or models, so Mondfeld may have the terms switched. Allan's example above is like that shown on the right side, labeled " Dutch" Note that 12 strakes have been reduced to 8. It looks like at this point you would need a lot of drop planks to fit your amidship planking into the bow area. I may not even be doable without having planks that taper to a point. You will have to decide how you want to proceed, which could involve removing some of your existing work.

FWIW, Lavery in " Arming and Fitting etc.. " describes the SB/DB, with no mention of SB/SB..

Depends on the material. I think water based dyes would be a problem with polyester. Natural fibers should be OK.. I have used alcohol based leather dyes successfully with polyester.

P.S. Checked, and see that Chuck used .012" = .3mm for ratlines on Cheerful at 1:48 which would be .576 " full size.. Close to 1/2 " and looks good. .008 = .2mm is the smallest size Chuck sells.

I would be surprised if the typical ratline were bigger than 1/2" diameter =12.7mm.. At 1/64 = .198mm Sryen's .008 = .2mm would work at 1;64 Probably not done to scale for most projects. When all else fails, go with what looks good.. Smaller is better.

.1mm Is smaller than a lot of sewing thread.. It would seem black thread would pretty easy to source.

Both, in a sense. Normally you would be tracing the edge of a plank that is already in place, it could be the top or the bottom. David Antscherl's paper shows doing this with dividers. I use masking tape. The traced edge of the new plank should match the existing plank perfectly. You will then establish the shape of the other edge of the new plank based on the width desired. It may taper toward the bow or widen toward the stern. Once in place, the open edge will be traced for the next plank. When there is only enough space for one ( the final ) plank, then the edges of the planks above and below the space will be traced to create a plank that fills the space ( hopefully ) perfectly. With the edge bending method, I would establish the width and tapering of the plank before bending.

A lot ( most ) of kits, kits being the majority of projects here, do not provide any information about the boxing joint.

Just another thought. I have shaped my garboards more or less by extending the plank straight along the keel and noting where the upper edge meets the keel, then shaping it accordingly.. It also helps if the garboard is a little wider than the other planks.

I agree your garboard looks OK based on the criteria I quoted. I think you can fudge on the 50% a bit.. ( Whose checking?) These drawings from the AOTS book show no drop planks and no stealers at the stern. The scale of your planks may present a problem. Not much help here, but something to think about for future projects.

I've read that the garboard should end before the stem/keel begins to curve upward.. Does that sound right? Here is an example from Glenn's Cheerful.

That is correct, and where a drop plank would be used. It reduces the number of planks by 1..