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Many ( most ? ) of the builds here depict treenails in one form or another. All levels of skill are represented. It is more of a modeling convention ( artistic expression ) rather than an accurate portrayal of what one would expect to see on the actual ship. Very few models would ever get built/finished if scale accuracy in every respect was the the goal So it is really a matter of building your ship in a way that you are satisfied with the results, and satisfied that you are improving your skills in a way that encourages you to continue with the hobby.
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Here are a couple of google Book references with photos. Beautiful yacht, but the proportions do not look much like the model. The American Almanac (?) Forrest and Stream Magazine Aug 1902
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What will you take for it? 😁
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Just a thought considering the limited space on the transom. Is it possible the seven windows included quarter badges? Five on the transom and one on each quarter.
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How to follow a forum?
Gregory replied to John Ruy's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
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How to follow a forum?
Gregory replied to John Ruy's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
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The hard part is finding a suitable place where the joint is not obvious. As I showed above, I did the square part above the cross trees separate. Not a lot of help with the total length. I also made the top mast in two pieces. Again not much help with total length, but helps with the really small part that is easier to break. It's easier doing the yards, as you can hide the joint with battens, rigging or paint. Let me know if I can provide a little more detail.
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Great start for a first time effort... It's how you find what works for you..
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Another option you might consider.. I glue my planks with white glue onto thin paper like tracing paper. Ready to be glued onto the false deck. The main deck in progress. I feel its easier to correct mistakes and make adjustments. Finished off the ship. Finished in place. I then glue the whole thing onto the false deck in place on the ship with yellow wood glue. It takes a few minutes of smoothing and pressure because there is a tendency for ripples to form. The yellow glue will start grabbing within 10 -15 minutes, but there is plenty of time to make adjustments.
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I hope you will share your build with us. Based on your carving skills, it should prove to be an exceptional endeavor.
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Some may think starting with a kit is doing things the hard way, but that is what the majority of our build logs consist of. Unfortunately, dowels are what are provided for masting in all kits that I am aware of. Understandably, most kit builders who are just breaking into this hobby are not keen on making the additional investment in suitable square stock. Many may take this approach if they stay with the hobby long enough, but first, lets help them out with what they are challenged with as beginners. Dowels, while presenting some challenges, are fairly easy to turn into square or other sections as needed. They are particularly easy to turn into smaller round sections.
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I use a combination of both filing and spinning with a drill ( no lathe ) .. Take care to sand out the circular marks from spinning. I also break what would be one long piece into two or more pieces, because smaller pieces are easier to work with. Arrows point to separate parts of main and topmast. This also makes it easier to mount some of the rigging elements before putting it all together. I also like to split up yards into two pieces while finishing. Makes it easier to taper from the fat end to the skinny end. I turned this: Into this: While I cut my blanks with a laser, you can do the same with square stock. Which is not to say the same thing can't be accomplished with round stock, and just as easily IMO..
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Jim pretty much covered it, but here is a picture of how Chuck makes rings. He is using a saw, which leaves a cleaner cut.. I just use some small flush cutters. Not as clean a cut, but whose checking..
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It's one of those things that can be nagging if one worries about ' historical accuracy '.. I'm of the " If it looks good, it is good. " school.. I'm not going to fret over a mm, but I found no documentation of a 6 pdr being less than 6 ft. I have the Hahn plans which also have the cannon at about 5 ft.. I was just looking for some 6 pdr barrels for my 1:48 project, and going by the MS plans I was coming closer to 30mm than the 37 mm that would scale closer to 6 ft at 1:48 .. The 6 pdrs for the AOTS Blandford are 7ft 6" not counting the cascable. They look a little top heavy to me, sitting on the carriage. Lavery in ' Arming and Fitting-' says they could be from 6ft to 9 ft 6" according to the 1703 establishments. I think the 30mm barells look good at 1:64 and I am comfortable scaling those up to ~ 37 for 1:48.
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This may be a bit premature considering I'm sort of stalled on my Resolution, which is about 95% done, but I'm hoping to soon start a scratch build of Rattlesnake with the MS plans. It's going to be an upscale at 1:48. I think it will be a nice project to jump into a little CNC carving. The NMM plans, that I linked to above, have a lot to add to the possible detail of the carvings, and there are some 1:48 add-ons that I am thinking about, like the Winchelsea Capstan and the MS 26ft longboat.
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Question About Glue for Plastic
Gregory replied to Gregory's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Just what I was looking for.. Thanks for all the great replies.. For some reason I hadn't flagged this for replies so I didn't realize I had any answers. -
I understand that. There are no actual drawings of the Bounty stern that I am aware of. The replica and the Caldercraft rendition compares well to several renditions that are out there, including the AOTS book. I was just suggesting the carvings could be moved onto the transom where they would blend in with the other ornate work with good effect. I of course respect your decision in the matter.. As I said, you have a very respectable build going.
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