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Take 2! Well at last I have an update 😀 I just couldn't leave it and I have now had another go at the ceiling. I'm really glad that I did this as I have improved my techniques and I'm much happier with the result this time around. The joints are much tighter than before and the overall look is what I was hoping to achieve the first time around. Removing the work that I had already completed proved much harder to do than I thought that it would. I think this is because I try and completely fill my joints with glue. It just required patience and some acceptance that the frames were going to suffer a little damage no matter how I did it. The next job is to complete the nailing on the ceiling, clamp, keelson and breast hook. The scantlings say that the heads of the nails for the planks should be 1/5 of the thickness of the planks. The planks are 1.6mm thick so that means I require 0.3mm nails. I've found some 0.3mm carbon rod and I've made up a test piece that I think looks ok. Once again thanks for all of the help and encouragement from you all Mark

Quite simply the best customer service ever - when I decided to have my table saw altered to have the larger table I asked Jim if he could please get it back to me in the UK ASAP. I received it back about 3 weeks later so that I could carry on building and at that time we were all in lockdown due to covid. Jim and Donna sent it to me at their own expense and only asked for payment 2 weeks after I had received it back. Now thats real trust and I could not thank them enough!

This really is wonderful seeing this beautiful piece come together - amazing work

bitao - such perfection mate 👍 One day - maybe one day, I'll get somewhere near this kind of quality of ship building. Your work is so inspiring!

Now that I have actually raised frames I can can see just how amazing the positioning of your chocks are. This is inspiring work for me and I'm leaning so much from your build. Thanks Oliver!

Such lovely clean work - nice one James!

Such beautiful work and the inside photos look so real!!

bitao that work is simply incredible!!!

Your CNC skills are just incredible - WOW that figurehead looks fantastic and fits in so well with the rest of the ship.

Hi all and thanks for the comments and feedback. I got this part wrong because I was having trouble seeing the lines of how the planks should run. Funnily enough after the first 6 strakes I could see how it was all forming and also see that I was on the right track. What I didn’t do was put as much effort into the carpentry and the joints of the planks. I want to get this ship as good as I can so that I understand my next build far better and have more confidence that I’ll get it right. It just means I’ll hopefully get another post up in about 4 weeks with an improved fit. If not I’ll accept that’s the best I can do at this point and move on. Mark

I guess so - I chose this ship for my first POF build to learn as much as I could. Although some lessons seem hard to take; for me it’s well worth the effort as I know that I can do better. If I didn’t change this now I know that I would regret it later.

Hi All I've not posted in a while as to be honest I'm finding planking the ceiling difficult. I've now put in the first 7 strakes and I'm really unhappy the way they've turned out. Sanding down at the stemson has really shown me just how inaccurate some of my cuts were. I also think that edge gluing the planks was a bad idea too............so I need to remove them all except of the first 2 strakes. Here's a few pictures of how it shouldn't be done 😂 I've wetted the wood on one picture which shows my errors. Oh well upwards and onwards and hopefully I can improve on this effort. Mark

Wow Albert that carpentry is incredible 😃

That is absolutely amazing work 😀

The Sherline mill has a 10,000 rpm pulley set which is easy to fit. I use this when milling wood on mine and I get very clean cuts.

I have seen so many so called specialist ship building tools since starting this hobby. I would now say that 80% are a complete waste of money and do not help our hobby in any way. In fact I believe that many of these tools put new builders off for life when they do not do what they say on the box. These things are so easy to make and making them is part of what we do as ship builders - just my limited thoughts.

Hi All I've now started the ceiling planking - its taken me a while to get started as I haven't done this before. I thought that I would be able to apply a similar system that we use on the outside of the hull by marking out bands etc but I found that I couldn't do this. The reason being the way the planks run up the inside of the stem and stern I just couldn't figure out a way of marking them out accurately. I also do not have a flat plan of the planks so the drawings need interpreting which takes me a while to understand. So in the end I thought the best thing to do was to use a mix of the drawings and apply similar rules to the planking such as only tapering to half of the planks width. I also thought it best not to start running up the stem too quickly that we also apply on the outside. So boringly 🤣 I've managed the first two strakes - sorry for my snails pace. I really wanted to get these right as hopefully the rest will then follow. One of them moved slightly at the stern whilst drying so I had to use some PVA coloured with graphite to fill the gap. It doesn't look too bad for a first attempt and I know that I will improve as I work my up inside the hull. There's a few pictures below of where I am now and how I make my planks. I mark out the tapers and then plane them in my plank vice before clamping them together to ensure they are a mirror image of each other. Next I edge bend them which makes for a good fit and only minor clamping. The making of the planks is easy but working out the shape is hard. I'll post an update in a few weekends once I've got up to the seven strakes that I intend to fit at this stage. Cheers Mark

Hi bitao only eight hours work a day on your ship - come on mate you need to try harder 🤣 Honestly your work is so inspiring its absolutely fantastic!

Hi druxey I used to use a Bosch vac on my tools and like you I thought that it was very noisy. So a few months ago I swapped to Festool as I wanted a quite option but it did come at a cost. These things are not cheap and I bought a CTM Midi not really knowing if it would be better and more quiet. So what did I find? Well the extraction is extremely good and I rarely use it on full suction. The bag holds twice as much as my last vac and not only that it can also do wet extraction too. It also has a blow function too which sometimes comes in handy. But overall it really is a lot quieter than my last vac especially on half power. The hose is so long that it lives well away from my tools and its anti static too. I also have the bluetooth switch on the hose so I can turn my tools on and the vac at the same time. I don't use the power outlet on the Festool as it cannot handle the power of Byrnes tools but the bluetooth solution solves this problem. I too recommend this product but it does come at a price Mark

Ancre supply these plans in 1/24th scale have a look on their website 👍

Hi Greg and thanks mate - yes I found that making them all at the same time actually makes them fit together better. I used a 1mm mill to cut the straight vertical cuts and then a 3mm end mill to remove the rest of the material. Once I discovered how to set one in the mill the rest just followed. They are not difficult at all but I did find that my milling did have to be very accurate to get a really good joint. It was nice when I did the last two pieces at the stern as when I put them side by side they were identical which shows that the hull is symmetrical. It was one of those surprised but proud moments too!

Such a complex build - amazing work!

Thanks very much Allan 🙂 I follow other builds which give me quite a lot of answers to many of the problems that I come up against. I also do get some help on the side in the way of PM's to certain builders too. Its pretty much a team effort on the solving side so it makes the building that little bit easier. I hope that some of the amazing kit builders on MSW see that scratch building is possible and that they also take the leap 👍 🤣 I knew you were going to say that!! Ok what I'm planning is to copy "marsalv" and the way he puts in the randomly shaped cut outs to show what's below. I also think that I will build this just as Adrian Sorolla has and make cut outs though the frames so that interior can be seen. Mind you its gonna break my heart to actually make those cuts. Funnily enough just after I posted this the delivery guy turned up with my wood. So I've now cut the planks in readiness for some more work next weekend but I did get a bit carried away. I've not cut planks on my Byrnes saw for maybe two years and I forgot just how good it is at this job. So 26 planks later that are 9.2mm x 1.6mm x 500mm I thought that was enough - I was just enjoying myself 🙂 Mark

Hi All At last the deck clamp is complete 😄 I think its safe to say that I have become quite adept at hooked scarf joints now 🤣. I also think that the easiest thing in the world would be to make it as one piece and omit this really nice detail. The only thing I will need to do is carve a small piece once the ceiling is in to take it all of the way up to the wing transom. This is no big deal but there is a small step that I just could quite get the dimensions right with the solid section. So I took the option of putting it right later. My thanks to Gerard for helping me get these parts correct by steering me in the right direction too. A few pictures below and also some pictures of the set of 14 planking clamps that I have knocked up. I'm at a bit of a standstill now as I'm waiting for some wood to be delivered for the planking. I've never planked the inside of a hull before and it does look quite difficult but hey - what isn't 🙂 Thanks for all of the nice comments and encouragement Mark

Wow that really is beautiful work 👍