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Festool shop vacuums - a quieter option
No Idea replied to druxey's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Hi druxey I used to use a Bosch vac on my tools and like you I thought that it was very noisy. So a few months ago I swapped to Festool as I wanted a quite option but it did come at a cost. These things are not cheap and I bought a CTM Midi not really knowing if it would be better and more quiet. So what did I find? Well the extraction is extremely good and I rarely use it on full suction. The bag holds twice as much as my last vac and not only that it can also do wet extraction too. It also has a blow function too which sometimes comes in handy. But overall it really is a lot quieter than my last vac especially on half power. The hose is so long that it lives well away from my tools and its anti static too. I also have the bluetooth switch on the hose so I can turn my tools on and the vac at the same time. I don't use the power outlet on the Festool as it cannot handle the power of Byrnes tools but the bluetooth solution solves this problem. I too recommend this product but it does come at a price Mark -
Ancre supply these plans in 1/24th scale have a look on their website 👍
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Hi Greg and thanks mate - yes I found that making them all at the same time actually makes them fit together better. I used a 1mm mill to cut the straight vertical cuts and then a 3mm end mill to remove the rest of the material. Once I discovered how to set one in the mill the rest just followed. They are not difficult at all but I did find that my milling did have to be very accurate to get a really good joint. It was nice when I did the last two pieces at the stern as when I put them side by side they were identical which shows that the hull is symmetrical. It was one of those surprised but proud moments too!
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Swan-Class Sloop by Stuglo - FINISHED - 1:48
No Idea replied to stuglo's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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Thanks very much Allan 🙂 I follow other builds which give me quite a lot of answers to many of the problems that I come up against. I also do get some help on the side in the way of PM's to certain builders too. Its pretty much a team effort on the solving side so it makes the building that little bit easier. I hope that some of the amazing kit builders on MSW see that scratch building is possible and that they also take the leap 👍 🤣 I knew you were going to say that!! Ok what I'm planning is to copy "marsalv" and the way he puts in the randomly shaped cut outs to show what's below. I also think that I will build this just as Adrian Sorolla has and make cut outs though the frames so that interior can be seen. Mind you its gonna break my heart to actually make those cuts. Funnily enough just after I posted this the delivery guy turned up with my wood. So I've now cut the planks in readiness for some more work next weekend but I did get a bit carried away. I've not cut planks on my Byrnes saw for maybe two years and I forgot just how good it is at this job. So 26 planks later that are 9.2mm x 1.6mm x 500mm I thought that was enough - I was just enjoying myself 🙂 Mark
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Hi All At last the deck clamp is complete 😄 I think its safe to say that I have become quite adept at hooked scarf joints now 🤣. I also think that the easiest thing in the world would be to make it as one piece and omit this really nice detail. The only thing I will need to do is carve a small piece once the ceiling is in to take it all of the way up to the wing transom. This is no big deal but there is a small step that I just could quite get the dimensions right with the solid section. So I took the option of putting it right later. My thanks to Gerard for helping me get these parts correct by steering me in the right direction too. A few pictures below and also some pictures of the set of 14 planking clamps that I have knocked up. I'm at a bit of a standstill now as I'm waiting for some wood to be delivered for the planking. I've never planked the inside of a hull before and it does look quite difficult but hey - what isn't 🙂 Thanks for all of the nice comments and encouragement Mark
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Wow that really is beautiful work 👍
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Hi Tony - if you have a look at the scantlings in the monograph you will find the thicknesses of the wood required. As for the amount of each thickness I just guessed. I actually thought that I over ordered but I’ve made so many pieces several times that I will have to buy some more before the end of the build.
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It really is isn't it - the prep work for raising the frames is inspiring!!
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Cheers druxey and aren't they just...... It's funny as some of the parts that I thought would be fairly ok to make have caused me the most effort. I'm glad these are done as at one point I thought that they were beyond me. I like this scale but at 1/24th some of the timbers are just so thick. I really makes you wonder of the skill of the original builders.
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Hi All I think it's safe to say that these three pieces have been very difficult for me to get right. I eventually made 4 deck clamps before being happy enough to fit them to the model. The combination of difficult bends that have to be recessed for the breast hook which all have to be sat on the correct line inside the hull.............wow! Anyway I've now got it done but not without a little damage. The port side deck clamp glued in fine but the starboard side cracked; I didn't even notice it until the next morning when I removed all of the clamps. It was one of those times when I just though - well its not very pretty but I do know that its in exactly the correct position. So I opened the crack up a bit and fitted a sliver of wood in just so that it looked a bit better. I'll put this one down as a ships repair 🤣 I've also had a go at making my first every hooked scarf joint and I think its going to be fine with a little adjustment. So the next steps are to make the 6 remaining pieces of the deck clamp which are all joined with hooked scarf joints. I must be honest I'm really pleased with the result mainly because structurally I know that its correct. Mark
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I can't even imagine how hard that was to cut those angles so accurately - that lantern is simply outstanding 👍 Can you make me one 🤣
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Hello and welcome to the forum. When I joined I also thought exactly the same as you are now and I discovered the most helpful and friendly place. Good luck with your builds!
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Personally I think that looks amazing - Even better its your own work
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Thanks druxey and funnily enough I wanted to poke the height gauge through the frames as that would have been so much easier! Unfortunately where this line is on the hull its on all of the spacers on the frames so I had to go over the top I just need to check my alignment at the stern to make sure the beams will be high enough. It's no big deal I just need to be sure before I fix anything in. Thanks Christian I hoping to get an update on this build up soon but our daughter needs some Dad's DIY doing and its taking up most of my time. Having said that I'm just about to have an hour on Le Rochefort now in-between painting 😄
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No problem Dave in fact I need to put another order into them soon. I’ve never had a bad piece from them and the service is great.
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Greg and WalrusGuy - thanks both 👍 It still needs a bit more fitting to get it all a bit tighter but its just about there now. I think the time taken now getting it right will save a lot of adjustments later on. I still need to bend the starboard side deck clamp and then I'll have a go at the hooked scarf joints which should be fun Cheers Mark
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Hi All Firstly thanks for all of the comments and you were all correct! The wood stayed discoloured, it was very very brittle and the bend on the former was insufficient. So having learnt I started again but this time simply using water and heat as I have always done in the past funnily enough. I also made the former more of a curve and I also introduced the frames camber onto it as well. It all went well and there are a couple of pictures below. I have also made the third breast hook which fits into long notches that need to be cut into the deck clamp. This hook is different to all of the other four as its profile is not flat. It has an angle across its width which mirrors the angle of the deck. Once I had worked out the cutting sequence it actually wasn't too hard to make. I just had to replace the templates often as I ended up having to cut them off during the machining. Again there are a few pictures below which I hope explain better what I have done. So a bit more progress and thanks once again to you all Mark
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NAIAD 1797 by Bitao - 1:60
No Idea replied to Bitao's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Happy new year mate!!! Awesome work on the ship too 😀 -
Vahur - Thanks for the information as I was looking for some black wood too for my build. I'll place an order with you at some point over the next few months. Thank goodness for model suppliers!
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Wow the accuracy of your work is astounding.
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Sorry I should have said that this is a 90 degree router bit for your Proxxon. They are not cheap but its what I use https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/router-bits/111107-1-8-inch-shank-carbide-tipped-v-groove-router-bit?item=86J0423 Mark
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Hi Dave - I get all of my Castello from Timberline and have found them to be fantastic. If you give them a call and explain that you are making a model ship, I have found that they will send you the best wood that they can. They have also custom cut lengths for me at 8mm which they do charge for and I also had to wait. However it really was worth it. Having said that I haven't used anyone else in the UK.
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druxey I think that you are probably right but I've never tried it before so I thought - why not give it a go! I have to say that the wood literally bent with light finger pressure. I probably won't use this method again as ammonia is a horrible product that you certainly do not want inside your home. Having said that I'm glad that I've tried it at least once.
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Hi everyone Work on Le Rochforte has slowed to a glacial pace as installing the deck clamp is a bit harder than I thought. After hours of looking at the plans I was certain that the deck clamp at the bow had to run underneath the third breast hook. So to be sure I dropped Gerard Delacroix a message and he confirmed that this was correct. He also pointed out that the decking is nailed directly to the third breast hook so the relationship between all of these parts is critical. So I have spent a lot of time marking the positions of these parts out inside the hull and I'm pretty sure I've got it about right now. I also have a much better understanding of the construction. Anyway back to the pre-bending of the deck clamp at the bow. I made up a pair of formers to the correct bend out of some scrap chip board. As the timber is 9mm x 3.4mm I didn't think that heat would be the way to go. So as a first experiment I soaked the wood for 24 hours in a diluted ammonia solution. The pieces bent around the former very easily and so far have not cracked in any way. The only issue is that the wood has changed colour, but this may be ok once the wood has dried. If not I'll try another method nest weekend; I'll let you know Mark
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